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#1066289
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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doubleofive said:

My friend who is a projectionist talked to the projectionist at Celebration for us:

https://twitter.com/mumbles3k/status/853102458909978624

Spoke to the projectionist at #SWCO and confirmed that these are the same 2K DCPs used for the OT Blu-rays. No 4K (except for Rogue One).

Do they even have 4K masters of the OT blu-rays? If not, I guess they’re going to go back to the negatives, but those are conformed to the SE, right? Which means, they either try to restore the OOT or they do a new SE based on the old SE: a Special Special Edition or something? 😄

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#1066144
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Celebration 2017 Speculation
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Fang Zei said:

Density said:

DominicCobb said:
Well I suppose when you consider how incredibly massive the number of Star Wars fans there are they might be a minority, but yeah I’d say it’s still fairly sizable. Sure I doubt most are unaware of the alternatives and have no problem sucking up the SEs (though Harmy’s work has gained some decent notoriety through the web), but I’m sure a great many would be willing to fork over cash if the original versions were presented.

Oh I’m sure plenty of people would buy it. They would turn a profit. But when compared to all the other things they could focus on instead? It’s chump change. So they have to weigh the value of that change against:

  • Pissing on George while he’s still alive, which I didn’t think was a problem but apparently might be after all now that they seem to have kissed and made up
  • Not maximizing the profits from it due to the extra money they could make if they waited until they are the sole owners and distributors of all but ANH
  • Distracting resources and marketing attention from their own new films

So if I had to predict? It will either come out around 2020 as a tie-in to the newly completed sequel trilogy, likely again treated as bonus material, or it won’t come out until George is pushing daisies.

Whatever the case, it’s pretty clear now that it’s not coming this year.

Well, I still wouldn’t completely rule out a release happening this year (The GOUT was announced in early/mid May for a September release, and the bd has been reissued every two years since 2011 which means we’re potentially due for another release of some kind this year). Hell, even after hearing that George was showing up I still didn’t rule out an announcement with him in the room! We’ve known for three whole years now that there’s been a 4k remaster of his preferred version, which to me means he literally has no reason to care anymore. John Landis’ story would seem to support this.

The only reasons I can think of are, as stated:

-apathy
-misplaced sense of loyalty to George from Kennedy and the people at Fox… even though George doesn’t care anymore
-Disney wanting to maximize their profits by waiting until 2020

That is simply how I see it. After 2020 they are out of excuses.

Also, releasing the OOT might first involve some kind of restoration, which may cost them too much compared to how many copies they expect it would sell.

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SilverWook said:

At this point, haven’t we been patient enough? It’s the freaking 40th anniversary. If they can’t make a simple direct statement on the matter…

I agree. I myself have much better things to do then just getting older while waiting for them to release the OOT :\ I’ll stick with the DE.

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#1065999
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Episode VIII Discussion *SPOILER THREAD*
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Any thoughts on these possible similarities? (sorry, I couldn’t find smaller pictures, so I’m directly linking their URLs, instead):

Do you think we’re going to see plot similarities with TESB (like TFA with ANH) or are they just going to be minor things, mostly visual (if any)?

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#1065876
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Celebration 2017 Speculation
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Fang Zei said:

Density said:

At this point I don’t even care anymore. I’ve resigned myself to the fact that we probably aren’t going to see anything until George kicks the bucket. And as annoyed with him as I am for what he did to this franchise, I don’t wish that on him. I’ll probably have kids of my own old enough to watch the series by the time the OUT comes out, and by then it will probably be some holographic 8K virtual whatever, forget about Blu-ray. That’s fine. I’m just glad this site exists so I’m not stuck with laserdisc transfers in the meantime.

I also can’t shake the feeling George has something to do with it. Even if the movies no longer legally belong to him, Disney and Fox are probably sticking to his vision out of some misplaced sense of loyalty, just because.

I don’t think releasing the OOT alongside “his” versions would be disrespectful. I don’t believe that’s the problem.

LuckyGungan2001 said:

Dunno why some people expected an OOT release. The vast majority of people I speak to don’t even know there’s different versions, and releasing them around the same time as TLJ would be sort of pointless.

Exactly!

nickyd47 said:

It would be logical to release them anytime because plenty know the difference and plenty will throw money at Disney and Fox

But are those people enough to justify the costs of a new restoration to Disney? I hope so 😦

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#1065452
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Celebration 2017 Speculation
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They don’t need to announce the OOT without Lucas: if they’re going to announce it, he and the others probably already know it.

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#1065434
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Celebration 2017 Speculation
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I think they’re talking about the Saga as a whole: OT, PT and then they’re going to talk about the ST for sure. I don’t think this is indicative that they’re not going to talk about the OUT, though I still have little hope they will.

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#1065005
Topic
Celebration 2017 Speculation
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lovelikewinter said:

nickyd47 said:

I’m pretty sure there’s more bonus material for the prequels in the complete saga Blu Ray set

That could be a matter of them being made in the DVD age where special features are planned for. That didn’t exist in 1977-1983.

Do the fans who really like the PT care about the other cuts? Aren’t they usually the ones who prefer the SEs, or whatever Lucas’ vision is this week?

I’m under the impression they probably just don’t know much about the changes they’ve made to the movies throughout the years.

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#1064958
Topic
The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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Darth Id said:

^ Wow there’s some electronic overachievers on this chat bored…

:\ I was just trying to be funny. I had this idea after reading your reply and I just couldn’t resist the urge to share it as a gif 😄

NeverarGreat said:

It’s cool right now to hate on Finn, but without him, the movie would be rather…rudderless. * ducks *

I don’t hate on Finn :\

Alderaan said:

7 of the last 10 reviews on IMDB:

  1. “The Worst of the Very Worst, Should be Forbidden”
  2. “This Movie Is Stupid”
  3. “Leaves A Lot To Be Desired”
  4. “The Fart Awakens And Stinks up The Galaxy Far Far Away”
  5. “So bad I had to create a review account”
  6. “Imagine if someone gave you money for presenting someone else’s work/script/idea”
  7. “Not terrible, not great either”

Which one is your favorite?

Number 3? (Do I win something? 😄 )
P.S.: number 4’s title is hilarious 😄

EDIT: speaking of Finn’s character depth, by making him into a gif, unfortunately I altered his depth to only 256 colors… :\

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#1064782
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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TV’s Frink said:

“Really, he acts nothing like an ex-stormtrooper.”

But ok.

Don’t worry, I’m going to quote only what we said about Finn and his character development, so you can read and understand our discussion:

John Doom said:

Dirge said:

John Doom said:

[…] I know this is very unpopular, but I think Finn’s role in the movie feels, unfortunately, expandable. If you look at what he does in TFA, the only two things which move the plot forward are saving Poe (another hit-and-miss character, especially since he wasn’t originally supposed to come back in the third part of the movie) and helping Han find the panel to lower Starkiller’s shields. That’s it. The writers even struggled to make him relevant in the final duel, making Ben use the force to make Rey unconscious (he doesn’t do it anymore later) so Finn could fight him alone.
They could’ve switched him with another character and it still wouldn’t have really affected the plot, which I think is unfortunate: being a former stormtrooper, he could’ve been the best character in the movie, especially if they fleshed out more his internal conflicts. As he is now in TFA, he could’ve died and it would’ve still been alright, bacause he feels expendable (to me, at least).

The problem with Finn is that he’s really just a former stormtrooper-ino (in name only). Really, he acts nothing like an ex-stormtrooper. He’s just some dude (just a likeable goof who bumbles his way through the film). Which is indeed unfortunate because a former stormtrooper as a character has a lot of potential for exploration and development. But Finn’s lack of depth really is just a symptom of the bigger problem. […]

So true. I know other people are ok with all of this, but I definitely think TFA could’ve used more character development. […]

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