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#1058632
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The theatrical colors of the Star Wars trilogy
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So the reference slide is being scanned, then the resulting digital image (assuming a properly calibrated monitor) is compared to the slide to make sure that what is seen in the monitor matches the slide perfectly? After this is dialed in, we can assume that anything going through the scanning process is accurate, too. I think I have it.

Thanks for the explanation!

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#1058546
Topic
The theatrical colors of the Star Wars trilogy
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DrDre said:

Using the scanner and the color calibration slide, I will be able to provide accurate digital color references for a large number of shots of a technicolor print of Star Wars, that I will share with you all through a dedicated thread, where all the scans will be collected. These will naturally be useful for any color correction project for Star Wars in the future. As far as I know no such project has yet been undertaken, and these will thus be the first color references, that will accurately represent the hue, contrast, and saturation of a technicolor print of Star Wars, by using calibrated scans rather than correcting a complete scan of a print by using the projected print as a visual reference.

Is that how a color-reference slide works?

In audio, when you get a tape, there are tones either before or after the progam material that will help you calibrate your equipment for that tape, but the calibration is only for that tape.

I assume film works the same way, in that you’d have a color reference on the same piece of film you’re attempting to color-time. If it works like that, having an outside reference color slide doesn’t seem to be of much value here.

Or am I missing the point of the slide?

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#1049279
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2016 High-Res Star Wars Soundtracks
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It appears that the rights to the high-resolution (192Khz/24Bit and 96Khz/24Bit) Star Wars soundtracks have reverted to Disney, and they are no longer available for purchase.

Did anyone buy them? I logged on to buy Star Wars and Empire this last weekend when I was informed by HDTracks.com that they are no longer available.

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#1034771
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Preserving the...*cringe*...Star Wars Holiday Special
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robertelee said:

Now that we have such a good first generation copy, is it even possible that a better condition version could be made? Was this videotaped origionally, or was it filmed and then transfered?

It was taped originally, with some filmed elements (the Star Wars footage and cartoon?) used.

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#1029062
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Preserving the...*cringe*...Star Wars Holiday Special
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GrindhouseGuru said:

What is the version of the special that starts with some of the local news anchors before they go to the special. The one that I guess was a HUGE upgrade that was taken directly from a master videotape. Someone authored a GREAT dvd of this version with menus etc. Is THAT the best quality one? Any help would be tremendous.

I believe you are conflating two versions: The one with the news anchors at the beginning was someone’s fairly clean, first-generation VHS tape from the broadcast on WHIO in Chicago. I believe that one was significant in that it was the first widely-seen version that had the entire, uncut intro to the Special intact, and it was significantly better than other bootlegs that had circulated before. That one has been distributed as a DVD with great menus, etc.

The one from the broadcast master tape was shared by EditDroid and is significant for being far and away the best-looking, clearest version. Being a broadcast master, there were no commercials or station identifiers. For picture and sound quality, this is the best.

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#936665
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Star Wars VHS Rips
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It’s funny, I’ve been feeling nostalgic for the 80s video experience as well. Mine was betamax dubs from VHS, and later Superbeta dubs from laserdisc. This was all 1986-87, well before I knew about any widescreen releases.

As kind of a retro project, I just made a VHS dub from the Force Awakens DVD. It’s not the same, being 16:9 with letterboxing, but hearing the electronic buzz of the VCR is kind of cool in its own way.

But to your point, at least the Star Wars (or Ep IV, or ANH if you like) '82 Rental VHS has been preserved. You can find it in the usual places.

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#925532
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What is wrong with Attack of the Clones?
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TV’s Frink said:

My wife and I have long suspected George has Asperger’s. This is not an insult (those who know me understand why) but an observation on both his strengths and weaknesses.

This is a really profound idea that makes so much sense as to seem obvious in retrospect. Obsessed with details but not a great understanding of the workings of relationships… wow.

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#924621
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12 Monkeys Theatrical vs. Home Video question
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Fascinating! I appreciate all of your input. The monkeys just must’ve been at the beginning only.

I’m pretty sure I’ve never seen a VHS documentary about it, but I was also pretty sure there were rotating monkeys at the end of 12 Monkeys…

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#923959
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12 Monkeys Theatrical vs. Home Video question
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I just watched 12 Monkeys for the first time since I saw it in the theater in 1996. I was shocked to see something different to what I (thought I had) distinctly remembered!

Watching tonight on Flix, the very last scene showed young Cole’s eyes staring up into the sky, then it cut to black for almost a second, then “What A Wonderful World” began playing and the credits started up. All of the videos online I’ve found do this as well.

What I remembered from 1996 was the following: Young Cole’s eyes staring up into the sky, then the rotating 12 Monkeys animation from the very beginning (just before we see young Cole’s eyes at the beginning)- this animation either faded in or acted as an Iris-in around the shot of young Cole.

Is there any evidence of this difference, or is this just faulty memory? Is there a theatrical tape, screener, or preservation to check?

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#900653
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What does Lucasfilm or George Lucas really have as Reference Material
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I worked at a Technicolor facility and spoke with the aforementioned Marc Weilage in 2004.

The story he related was that a few guys went up to San Rafael to color the Star Wars DVD release, but they weren’t at the Ranch’s top facilities. There was mention of card tables, temporary workstations, and other less-than-ideal work conditions. The impression I got was that this was quick and dirty.

Based on the results of the Blu Rays, I highly doubt that much more attention was paid to any kind of reference for that release.

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#899446
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can anybody tell me the original origin of this trailer?
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This was present on the Empire Strikes Back VHS tape I rented in early 1986, which I have always assumed was the initial 1984 VHS release. It was just tacked on after the end of the movie, kind of a cool surprise!

As for its origins, it seems like a theatrical re-release trailer but I don’t actually know.

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#894136
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Preserving the...*cringe*...Star Wars Holiday Special
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benduwan said:

does anybody know if this the editdroid version is?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Star-Wars-Holiday-Special-1978-TV-Rare-DVD-/161938731699?

I doubt it. The seller appears to have been selling this for months while the Edit Droid version was only released a couple weeks ago. The ad also mentions the source being taped from an “airing,” while Edit Droid’s was directly from a broadcast master (and the resolution appears to be much better than NTSC VHS or Betamax).

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#890019
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Preserving the...*cringe*...Star Wars Holiday Special
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Thank you for alerting us to the a-Wookiee-ning!

A broadcast-quality Holiday Special! I hoped, but I don’t think I ever expected to see better than the WHIO. This is such a great surprise.

Another real bonus for me is that there’s a clip from my favorite program as a 7-year-old, Captain Cosmic. Awesome!

Merry Christmas!

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#887170
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THE FORCE AWAKENS (Episode VII) Discussion *SPOILER THREAD* See OP For Trailer/Teaser Links--Trailer is out!
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Yeah, none of the new themes grabbed me, but I might buy the soundtrack and delve a little deeper. I was actually a little disappointed at that entire piece from Episode IV being re-used during the aforementioned Rey scene.

I wasn’t super stoked about yet another Death Star, not totally sold on Snoke, but overall, a much grittier, more “real”-feeling, more Star Wars-y movie than we’ve seen since '83. WAY better story telling than anything since Empire, IMO.

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