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#1135930
Topic
The Prequel Trilogy showdown
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chyron8472 said:

Q2’s Fall of the Jedi Trilogy fanedits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HesmWVhuTg4

  • “Chosen One” nonsense is removed;
  • Droid anachronisms are removed (in fact, the droids themselves are almost entirely cut);
  • Anakin’s fate at the end of Episode III is edited, leaving ESB revelation intact;
  • Padme’s fate at the end of Episode III is altered, leaving Luke’s ROTJ revelation intact and allowing his conversation with Leia on Endor to make more sense;
  • Anakin is far less whiny;
  • Obi-Wan is far less argumentative;
  • Anakin and Padme don’t fight their feelings;
  • VERY little dialogue and antics from Jar Jar;

…and that’s off the top of my head.

The one thing that I would change in the Star Wars prequel trilogy would definitely be getting rid of jar jar binks. That actually goes without saying.

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#1135929
Topic
Rogue Zero - What was changed, reshot, etc in Rogue One?
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Ronster said:

Can I draw attention to the fact they all have weird breathing apparatus on again… That’s not by chance that is definitely by design. I can’t help but believe the french translation film dude who claimed about the insectocide attack on Geonosis that Saw and Moroff and two tubes were all involved in.

But any way like I said here’s hoping we get to see it or even some of it and the original end battle. Original Eadu sequence original opening narrative. Original Jedha sequences. Original Yavin scenes.

Best new Star Wars film that I doubt will be toppled by any other Disney release but I would like to see them try.

I agree with you about Rogue One, it’s wonderful. 😄 And don’t forget about the original Vader sequences with Spencer Wilding as the Sith Lord. 😄

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#1135741
Topic
Rogue Zero - What was changed, reshot, etc in Rogue One?
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ray_afraid said:

IP55 said:

SilverWook said:

IP55 said:

The only thing that exists on my world is the OT, vader lived on the death star and other ships haha. Not some count ducula castle…cannon,prequels and Wikis are just shite that was created after the event.

What part of previously unused Ralph McQuarrie OT concept do you not get?

None of it, the films are the films.

I have to agree Just because Ralph designed it doesn’t mean we should all accept it as canon.
I dig it though.

I love Vader’s Castle! 😄 And I DO want to see where he lives/chills out when he’s not at work. The Vader’s Castle scene in Rogue One is pretty much an important one too because Vader says to Krennic, “There is no Death Star. The senate has been informed that Jedha was destroyed in a mining disaster.” That line is ingenious and is pretty much for anyone who says, “But the Death Star isn’t operational until the events of the original Star Wars.” And I’m also sure that the Empire swept the Death Star attack on Scarif under the rug as well because that would’ve been a huge embarrassment for them. Just the fact that they had to fire on their own base to squelch the Rebels transmitting the plans to the Rebel Fleet.

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#1135367
Topic
In what way I should watch a Star Wars Marathon?
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LexX said:

I just finished watching SW.

And I have to say… it felt so fantastically weird to see the opening crawl about rebels taking their first victory against the Empire, the same crawl I’ve been reading for 20 years, and now I was like “hey, I saw that victory yesterday!”. And then, after the two hours of action and what happened at the end of R1 the first half of SW had a very calming feeling after the battle instead of feeling like a slow start. Also the galaxy felt even more massive than before. Watching SW now didn’t feel like watching it for the first time but it did feel completely different than ever before. And only in a positive way, for me.

I’m super-glad that you feel that way! 😄 Rogue One so perfectly and delightfully expands the Star Wars galaxy in an amazing and breathtaking way! Like I’ve stated before watching Rogue One makes a person feel like they’re being drawn into a beautiful and luxurious painting! 😄

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#1135299
Topic
Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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AveKender said:

I am going to see the film on Dec 14 and I am not really sure why.

TFA was basically Market Research: The Movie.

This is shaping up to be Market Research Episode II: Revenge of the Focus Group.

But there is still a recognizable kernel of Star Wars in there and I think that is what compels me to show up.

That’s pretty funny. I’m really dreading seeing the purple-haired girl and the fat asian hipster looking girl in The Last Jedi. Star Wars is about escapism. It should not be about reminding you about the types of clowns that walks around in everyday life.

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#1134380
Topic
Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
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Shopping Maul said:

The bigger issue with the ‘Leia as other hope’ thing is the fact that she simply couldn’t have been an option at the time of Yoda’s original declaration in ESB. When Yoda said “there is another”, Luke was flying off to Bespin to rescue Leia - the same Leia whose fate Yoda could not see and who Yoda had just encouraged Luke to sacrifice for the greater good. She simply wasn’t an option at that point, sister or no.

Great catch. Yoda does basically want Luke to sacrifice his friends for the greater good and stay on Dagobah to finish his Jedi training. Yoda pulled his line of, “There is another.” directly out of his green ass.

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#1134379
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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SilverWook said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Possessed said:

And about Luke not actually being a great pilot because he gets helped a couple times, agree you forgetting he and wedge are the only ones who even survive?

There’s a Y-wing flying away at the end too.

If only three Rebel pilots survived the DS battle, then who the heck are all these guys?

I presume they were keeping the majority of TIE fighters occupied elsewhere while designated squadrons made the trench runs, and flew off in a different direction once Luke made a successful torpedo shot.

Maybe the pilots at the end of A New Hope are brand new pilots that jumped ship from the Imperial Academy and they just finished their Rebel indoctrination. The awards ceremony at the end of the movie could’ve taken place a few days after the Battle of Yavin unless otherwise stated in the shooting script.

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#1133152
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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MaximRecoil said:

NeverarGreat said:
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1069656

Rey is more of a Mary Sue than the Mary Sue for which the trope was named, which is funny, considering that, that Mary Sue was already intended to be an exaggerated parody of that type of character. The Mary Sue in the trope-naming parody had at least been through Starfleet Academy, while Rey was nothing more than a scavenger. You’d be hard pressed to find a more blatant Mary Sue than Rey anywhere, even if you look in fan fiction.

This is from a post on another forum, comparing Rey to Luke, by a poster with the username Jedan_Archer:

Quote:

Luke goes indeed from zero to hero (Hero’s journey character). If you really put ANH-Luke and TFA-Rey together, it becomes evident. Most important elements are:

  • Rey understands all languages, including Wookie (!) and droid speak (!!) - Luke does not;

  • Rey is a formidable fighter beating up thugs and scaring scavengers away from their loot - Luke is not, he is beaten up several times (by the sand people & in the bar) and is in need of protection and help throughout the movie (Han, Obi Wan);

  • Rey despite being raised by ruthless scavengers such as Unkar Putt has developed an superhuman morality motivating her to starve rather than to betray a little droid she just met – Luke treats droids like property/slaves;

  • Rey immediately is an (untrained) formidable marks man hitting everything at a great distance while running away and shooting a stranger’s gun; Rey can even (incredibly) aim with the turret while she is piloting - Luke cannot, he is an average shot at best missing many shots;

  • People and droids follow Rey like puppies, especially BB-8 (who is useless because Rey does all mechanics/engineering and door opening alone) – Luke seems not to have this fascinating effect, his droid R2 tricks him and runs away from him;

  • Rey wants to stay home but only leaves for loyalty to her new friends and destiny - Luke wants to leave home, but stays out of weakness and loyalty (Owen/Beru);

  • Rey is her own master and independent – Luke is not;

  • Rey is an ace climber and spelunker - Luke is not;

  • Rey the scavenger is an incredible ace pilot: Without a copilot or any experience with the ship she masterfully pilots the bulky Falcon through an abandoned destroyer and graveyard under fire outmaneuvering trained combat pilots - Luke does not even understand how the cockpit of the MF works (“what’s that flashing?”);

  • While flying alone, Rey performs incredible stunt piloting moves, including aligning the Falcon in midair so that Finn just has to pull the trigger (“How did you do that? - I don’t know – That was some flying – It was PERFECT”) - Luke however is mocked, derided and not allowed to pilot, despite being set up as a pilot; and even in empty space in his X-Wing Luke needs constant assistance from R2 and other pilots and Han, who sacrifice themselves for him.

  • Rey circumvents the security of Starkiller so that the explosive charges can be placed and the SK base be destroyed - Luke has no such abilities, he needs R2 to get saved from the trash compactor;

  • Rey saves herself out of captivity, and only does not flee so that the team can blow up Starkiller, without her they would be lost - Luke plan to save Leia is amateurish and Leia takes over the lead when his poorly thought out plan fails miserably;

  • Rey is an incredible mechanic and even a brilliant engineer stunning even Han (“I bypassed the compressor”) - Luke does not show such talents;

  • Rey can do advanced Jedi Force tricks without training, like telekinesis, mind tricks, mind reading etc - Luke needs training for very basic Force abilities (knowing when to shoot the torpedo), and only reaches Rey’s ability level when he is a trained Jedi;

  • Rey beats the main antagonist (Kylo, Master of the Ren) several times with untrained Force and sword skills - Luke does not even come near the main antagonist (Vader), except for being nearly shot down by him and being saved by others;

  • Rey is better with everything and bests everyone at their game (Han, Finn, Kylo, droids etc), even Luke & Poe were partially removed from the script so they cannot steal her spotlight; everybody becomes her cheerleader (Leia, Chewie, Finn etc) - Luke is a whiny, reckless loser at the beginning: Han is cooler, Obi is more powerful, Leia his sister is lightyears ahead of him (Leader, senator), his friends such as Biggs are ahead of him too;

  • Rey is the only hot young girl around with a posh accent - Luke is an average small farmboy, one of many kids, who mostly left him behind already;

  • Rey gets a glorification hug for no apparent reason from the VIP Resistance leader (Leia) instead of her old friend Chewie or all the returning heroes who Leia leads - Luke does not get any unwarranted hugs but after he succeeds and after he becomes friends with the huggers (Leia/Han);

  • Rey becomes captain of the MF after Han’s death, stepping over Chewie who “likes her” and looks at her in an adoring way (like everybody else, the Rebels are even waving her collectively goodbye when she leaves) - Luke does not get any positions and is violently pushed away by Chewie;

  • Rey is sent on the most important mission to find Luke, leaving all his friend and family behind her - Luke does not get any solo missions;

  • Rey is so important and special that even long lost light sabers and dead VIP masters like Obi Wan and Yoda call out to her - nobody really calls out to Luke;

  • Rey is desired by everybody, but she is hard to get: she either friend zones or emasculates the characters who are fascinated by her - Luke does not even get the girl in the end. In the end, Rey gets Han’s gun and ship, Luke’s light saber and R2-droid, and Chewie as a copilot - and she finds MacGuffin-Luke: she is the SOLE HEIR and SAVIOUR of the SW UNIVERSE - Luke gets a medal, but only next to Han, who already is successfully flirting with Luke’s wanna-be girlfriend and sister!

And this is why rey is as boring as hell. She also exudes a meanness that I just can’t stand.

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#1132639
Topic
OTTO
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SilverWook said:

georgec said:

Good one! I just shake my head sadly at that bit on the ROTS DVD, where they go on how they “fixed” the flaws of the original mask.

It goes without saying that Vader’s original mask/look in A New Hope didn’t need fixing at all! I can’t stand Vader’s look at the end of Revenge of the Sith. There’s just no character or charm to it at all, it’s just off!

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#1132471
Topic
General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
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Mocata said:

Rey should get an orange or yellow one, that would be good. Like Yun in Dark Forces II. The whole toy line thing is weird and amusing though, like they kept getting it wrong in new ways. I think RetroBlasting did a bit on them.

Or maybe even a rainbow-colored one. Seriously though the colors of the lightsabers should be limited.

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#1132470
Topic
General Star Wars Questions
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ChainsawAsh said:

chyron8472 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

There’s also multiple instances (first shown, I think, in ROTS when Yoda is chopping up clones outside the Temple) of a character throwing a lightsaber, the blade impaling a victim, and the saber staying in place just like a sword or other physical object would, rather than falling to the ground and partially bisecting the victim.

When watching TFA, during the scene on the bridge, I had the thought about how a normal saber would have just cleanly impaled someone, but Ren’s saber was continually sparking random bits of plasma up inside Han’s torso, burning the rest of his insides as it was held there.

And now I’ll never be able to watch TFA without imaginig hundreds of holes being melted through Han’s organs during that scene…

Whenever I watch Han’s death in TFA I think back to how it should’ve been in a much different i.e. better Return of the Jedi.

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#1131090
Topic
Rogue Zero - What was changed, reshot, etc in Rogue One?
Time

timdiggerm said:

Imperial Drama and Eadu

  • Darth Vader was going to talk with Krennic aboard the Death Star. It’s possible these scenes were replaced with Tarkin.

I believe that in the original cut of Rogue One both Tarkin and Vader was going to gang up on Krennic after Vader using the force took Krennic’s gun away from him after he drew his gun on Tarkin after both men got into it with one another. And of course Vader’s big scene at the end of the original cut was going to be him force choking Krennic to death after Krennic survived the Death Star blast on the planet of Scarif and was then brought aboard The Devastator. I’ve also seen in a behind-the-scenes video of the actor who plays K-2SO that both he and Captain Andor was originally going to get shot and killed by Krennic right outside of the building that housed the satellite dish. There also was no Jyn in prison scene, Ring of Kafrene scene, marching Bodhi Rook to Saw Gerrera’s men in the early morning hours on Jedha scene and no busting Jyn out of prison on Wobani scene in the original cut of Rogue One.