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#1171576
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Maybe the focus on ineffective broad proposals is the problem. Raising the age to own a firearm to 21 would be more focused and I think legally defensible.

the inevitable argument would be “whoa, I’m old enough to be drafted to carry a weapon in a war, but not old enough to buy one myself???”

Raise the draft age. Or, even better, eliminate the draft.

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#1170915
Topic
2018 Pyeongchang Winter Olympic Games
Time

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Regardless, video games, at least the ones that have a serious competitive community, are much more physical than chess.

Please explain how.

Same reason that I would consider shooting and archery to be a sport, physical accuracy is a skill that needs to be trained. I guarantee that you can’t pick up a shooting game and be as good as the people who play them professionally.

I agree I would not be as those that play video games professionally.

In an FPS, the physical aspect is part of the game;

I don’t understand how.

Honestly it’s pretty hard to explain without having you experience it yourself. I could send you to an online “aim trainer,” but even those are radically different from an actual in-game experience. Below are two timestamped links to a single video, the first link is an example of what bad aiming looks like, the second is an example of good aiming.

https://youtu.be/FPtASGDl2Rw?t=28s

Now, why didn’t that guy just shoot his two opponents in the head for an instant kill? Well, it’s not as easy as it sounds. Aiming is something you have to work at, it isn’t as simple as just clicking on someone. You have to build muscle memory.

https://youtu.be/FPtASGDl2Rw?t=2m1s

I have played FPS games, I agree skill is involved. But that doesn’t make it a sport.

That’s what good mouse placement and muscle memory can do for you.

whereas in chess, the physical movement only exists because there wasn’t any other way to move the pieces. Unless you’re thinking about Madden or something, that’s not the type of game I’m talking about.

I fail to see how controlling keyboard/mouse/joystick is any more physical than moving pieces around board, especially when it comes to speed and blitz chess.

You can move chess pieces, right? Then why couldn’t you play as well as professionals? Because, as I tried to demonstrate with the videos above, there is a lot more going on.

just as in chess. Especially in speed chess. I have watched videos of professionals playing speed and blitz chess. They have to sometimes think and move blindly fast as their time is running out.

The target is small; and your opponent will always be moving, you have to try and predict how they’re going to move next. In Counter Strike, the game you saw in those videos, you also have to account for recoil patterns, because the guns “move up” as they’re shot.

I know I have played FPS games. It is possible for someone that is hundreds of pounds overweight to be excellent at FPS games. It is not a sport.

The point is that there is physical exertion involved, so it meets the definition of a sport. Any ideas about the level of physical exertion are just your own preconceived notions, and they have no bearing on what is or isn’t a sport.

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#1170901
Topic
2018 Pyeongchang Winter Olympic Games
Time

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Regardless, video games, at least the ones that have a serious competitive community, are much more physical than chess.

Please explain how.

Same reason that I would consider shooting and archery to be a sport, physical accuracy is a skill that needs to be trained. I guarantee that you can’t pick up a shooting game and be as good as the people who play them professionally.

I agree I would not be as those that play video games professionally.

In an FPS, the physical aspect is part of the game;

I don’t understand how.

Honestly it’s pretty hard to explain without having you experience it yourself. I could send you to an online “aim trainer,” but even those are radically different from an actual in-game experience. Below are two timestamped links to a single video, the first link is an example of what bad aiming looks like, the second is an example of good aiming.

https://youtu.be/FPtASGDl2Rw?t=28s

Now, why didn’t that guy just shoot his two opponents in the head for an instant kill? Well, it’s not as easy as it sounds. Aiming is something you have to work at, it isn’t as simple as just clicking on someone. You have to build muscle memory.

https://youtu.be/FPtASGDl2Rw?t=2m1s

That’s what good mouse placement and muscle memory can do for you.

whereas in chess, the physical movement only exists because there wasn’t any other way to move the pieces. Unless you’re thinking about Madden or something, that’s not the type of game I’m talking about.

I fail to see how controlling keyboard/mouse/joystick is any more physical than moving pieces around board, especially when it comes to speed and blitz chess.

You can move chess pieces, right? Then why couldn’t you play as well as professionals? Because, as I tried to demonstrate with the videos above, there is a lot more going on. The target is small; and your opponent will always be moving, you have to try and predict how they’re going to move next. In Counter Strike, the game you saw in those videos, you also have to account for recoil patterns, because the guns “move up” as they’re shot.

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#1170889
Topic
2018 Pyeongchang Winter Olympic Games
Time

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

playing video games is not a sport. There is nothing athletic about it.

Seems to fit this definition.

except the physical exertion part. If video games are a sport, chess should be a sport, pool should be a sport. Poker should be a sport.

Chess is a sport in the eyes of many people.

Not in mine. It is a great game and I love it and it requires great skill and intelligence, but it is not a sport.

Would you consider shooting a sport? I would.

Regardless, video games, at least the ones that have a serious competitive community, are much more physical than chess.

Please explain how.

Same reason that I would consider shooting and archery to be a sport, physical accuracy is a skill that needs to be trained. I guarantee that you can’t pick up a shooting game and be as good as the people who play them professionally. In an FPS, the physical aspect is part of the game; whereas in chess, the physical movement only exists because there wasn’t any other way to move the pieces. Unless you’re thinking about Madden or something, that’s not the type of game I’m talking about.

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#1170882
Topic
2018 Pyeongchang Winter Olympic Games
Time

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

playing video games is not a sport. There is nothing athletic about it.

Seems to fit this definition.

except the physical exertion part. If video games are a sport, chess should be a sport, pool should be a sport. Poker should be a sport.

Chess is a sport in the eyes of many people. Regardless, video games, at least the ones that have a serious competitive community, are much more physical than chess.

For the record, I’m not being fully serious, just playing devil’s advocate.

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#1170869
Topic
2018 Pyeongchang Winter Olympic Games
Time

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Collipso said:

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. Let’s say, if video games were to become a sport women would probably be better if they were as dedicated as men. Unfortunately it’s another activity that got lost in the sexist world. “Video games are for boys…”

video games aren’t sports.

huh?

Sorry but I can’t consider something I do while having a snack and sitting in a comfy chair in front of my computer a sport.

That’s just because of how you’re playing them.

Post
#1170868
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

We’ll see what an investigation/lawsuit turns up.

no,no,no,no,no,no. We don’t wait for investigations and evidence and trials anymore. The cops are guilty. They murders and they shoot the guy because they hate his race. We all know it, we don’t need any investigation or evidence or trial! Benefit of the doubt/reasonable doubt don’t matter anymore.

lol

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#1167668
Topic
If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
Time

snooker said:

I got banned from the Star Wars subreddit for telling someone how to get the Despecialized editions. GG

I don’t know why I keep going back to that place.

"Daily reminder that Rouge[sic] One was a masterpiece"

“DAE think the prequels were not that bad?”

“I know the prequels are controversial, but if there’s one thing we can all agree on…”

And you have click on the thread to finish the sentence because this poster decided to take a page out of the BuzzFeed playbook, and all it says is;

“the lightsaber fights were epic.”

And every time an upcoming movie is discussed, everybody is floating these goofy fan-fiction level ideas or things that have been said a thousand times before.

“I think we can all agree that the Obi-Wan movie should be a gritty western”

Or it’s someone pointing out a detail from a movie and providing a child’s analysis of it.

“Anakin force-choking Padme is subtle foreshadowing of the revelation that Darth Vader is actually Anakin”

“Anakin’s shadow right before he leaves to find his mother is a visual callback to the Darth Vader helmet. It’s so dense, every single frame has so much going on”

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#1167394
Topic
The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
Time

Matt.F said:

Mrebo said:

Matt.F said:

Yes, and “very good of its kind” may be damning with faint praise but we all know that’s as good as it gets with space fantasy movies.

I didn’t get that memo. I’m less impressed by the great dramas, perhaps, but I think a movie can be evaluated on its own terms, whatever Blockbuster shelf it would have sat on, whatever box office success it had, and whatever a professional critic had to say about it.

Mrebo can you name me 5 family films from 2016-2017 that you consider to be superior to The Last Jedi? That you personally like more?

Boss Baby
Boss Baby
Boss Baby
Boss Baby
Boss Baby

😉

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