…and 2 tapes from the awful “Planet of the Apes” (2001) movie. Anyone interested in those?
Can you elaborate more on this please? Not the awfulness of the 2001 POTA movie but what’s on the tapes. 😃
JayArgonaut, no, sorry, I don’t have anything on video from B5.
No worries. It was worth a try, given the extent of your archives. 😃
Did you happen to record any of the POTA tv movies made by editing the series episodes together? In a few markets, they had new intros and outros by Roddy McDowall in full ape makeup as an older Galen. The only version of these in circulation looks really funky and low res, like the earliest video capture technology was used.
These turn up periodically (in PAL) on one of my FTA channels but it broadcasts at just 544 x 576 and has a permanent logo in the corner. Nonetheless, I can keep an eye out for the next airings in case they’re better than what you already have.
So if anyone on this forum is looking for anything specific, don’t hesitate to ask.
Just wondered, do you have the TV recordings of the Babylon 5 run?
Any particular need for a print scan?
The bluray screwed up the collars! What was the TRUE theatrical timing? I saw it 7 times in 1960 and the only medium that felt “right” since then was the discovision release!
I’m going to be 100% honest and say that I can’t tell whether you’re joking, as the movie is in B&W, though if you’re serious, I actually had no idea the colors/shades/tints/whatever were incorrect on the BD.
See my comments here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Psycho-HDTV-broadcast-vs-50th-anniversary-Blu-ray/id/50132
That’s interesting about the SAT.1 broadcasts, at some point I will have to look into getting a dish as that would give me so many more options. I don’t have Film 4 HD on my channel line up - as that did cross my mind.
I contacted C4 to ask if there’s any possibility they’ll show it again in the near future, uncut and received the following response…
Unfortunately there are no current plans to repeat this programme, however, I will pass on your interest for this film to be repeated post watershed to those responsible for our programming.
Let’s see what happens. 😃
Not for long though…
Thanks for alerting me. I just checked and it is unfortunately censored. To run it at that time slot but cut to ribbons is so annoying. I’ve heard “bastards” and “bitch” uttered during the daytime on other channels! Maybe they might show an unadulterated version in a few months or next year…
I set my PVR to record this on the off-chance that James Cameron and his minions haven’t got round to ensuring that only the 2012 master is available to TV stations. The continuity errors and colour grading seen on the home video versions prior to 2012 are present here.
For example: visible lighting equipment in this shot.
Scenery visible in the background, right behind the stairway.
See here for further details: http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=935850
I doubt they would scan a whole new transfer without DNR just to show it on television. It would be so much easier to just use the same blu-ray master.
That is true, however alternate or older masters frequently turn up during TV airings. This is exactly what happened recently with broadcasts of Predator and Psycho. I suspect it also might be the case with the ITV broadcast.
Here’s a comparison of the same shot from a Blu-ray rip and the ITV airing. Note that the former suffers from horizontal and vertical cropping whilst the latter has a more visible area and lacks the “Coming Summer 1990” title that is present on the Blu-ray and DVD.
Judging by the caps, would you say the ITV broadcast exhibits any signs of the DVNR & EE that are present on the Blu-ray?
Thanks for doing this, I’m looking forward to seeing the extended cut. Just a thought, surely the transition between the Blu-ray and TV footage (aspect ratios and picture quality) is going to be really jarring? Would it not work out better to just show the TV version as it is, warts and all?
Not sure where you live but I prefer to wait and buy it from amazon.co.uk. If I buy it from amazon.com it might arrive even later than from amazon.co.uk
I’m in the UK and there’s many ways to obtain imports without a long wait. 😃
The new BD just dropped to $15 on amazon.
The UK Region B/2 release isn’t scheduled till July 18th. I might look for a US import…
ITV1 HD aired BTTF II over the weekend and thankfully during the evening, which meant it was uncut for the first time in years. How does this broadcast compare to the Blu-ray? Does it exhibit the same DVNR and EE problems? If you think it’s sourced from a different master, I’ll record BTTF III this Friday. 😃
48 screen grabs available here: http://imgur.com/a/GGkQ0
No, since that’s more of a remastering attempt.
Cool.
We’re amassing quite a list…
Here’s another addition: James Cameron strikes again, this time applying orange and teal to the remastered Blu-ray release of The Terminator.
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/hd-talk/606990-terminator-remastered-2-19-2013-a-3.html
From the Special Edition DVD onwards, The Matrix has been altered on a colour level in order to match the look of its sequels.
http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/the-matrix-visual-comparison.html
Jedit: does “digital alterations” also include DVNR?
Another glaring one that I forgot… Titanic Blu-ray: multiple digital alterations to fix continuity errors, “colour timing/correction”, enhance special effects and remove crew, equipment and background scenery.
I can’t believe I forgot about this! 😄
All home video versions of The Fugitive from the 2001 DVD onwards have been altered to digitally remove a crew member who was visible (in a ghost like image, apparently) during the train crash scene.
http://www.moviefone.com/2013/08/07/the-fugitive-25-things-you-didnt-know/
You’re welcome. Glad to be of help. 😃
How can we forget to include this? 😮
The Babylon 5 DVD’s have been visually altered (mutilated, really) in order for WB to market them as “16:9.”
http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Babylon_5_DVD_Releases
http://home.iae.nl/users/starcat/b5tvm/
https://www.modeemi.fi/~leopold/Babylon5/DVD/DVDTransfer.html
The title seen during the closing moments of the Scarface Special Edition DVD, “this film is dedicated to Howard Hawks and Ben Hecht” has a different screen position and text colour from the version featured on the 1998 widescreen VHS release. I suspect but can’t confirm 100% that the VHS (and LD, presumably) title text is very likely from the theatrical print and de Palma probably created a new version for the SE DVD. Sadly I no longer have a copy of the W/S VHS release from which I could produce a comparison screen grab.
Thanks for the confirmation.
It was also available on iPlayer and there was no HD option - so yeah, definitely just a very good upscale from an LD master.
Blu-ray grabs taken from The Hitchcock Zone:
http://hitchwiki.com/h/114fd
The HDTV broadcast is covered with grain and also has a slightly larger vertical image (compare the vertical cropping of the hotel room and office shots in the Blu-ray) and there is marked difference in monochrome tones between the two.
I know that despite what Hollywood execs and some websites would have us believe, many films are simply grainy by their nature because of the film stock that was used (Aliens, Predator) and were never meant to look over polished, glossy and pristine. With this in mind, which is a more accurate representation of the film, the smooth, softer looking Blu-ray or the grainy HDTV airing?
I’d be interested in your opinions.
JayArgonaut said:
Iron Man was digitally altered for its home release (and TV airings) to avoid litigation over the photograph that’s seen during the penultimate moments when Stark is reading the newspaper and reflecting on his adventures.European home video versions of Avengers Assemble were digitally altered to censor the fatal impalement of a lead character.
Could you guys provide a source for these ones? I couldn’t find anything on them.
Really? That’s a surprise.
Here you go 😃
http://collider.com/iron-man-censored/
From the theatrical version:
The home video and TV version:
Now for Avengers Assemble…
European home video release:
The rest of the world:
Already discussed and discounted from consideration on the first page.
Wazzles said:
The major area I want to focus on is digital alterations, as this is a troubling trend that I find very interesting.
Recent releases of The Rescuers have been digitally altered on home video to remove images of a nude woman that were inserted as a joke and apparently only became noticeable when people were able to rewind and freeze-frame at their leisure.
Iron Man was digitally altered for its home release (and TV airings) to avoid litigation over the photograph that’s seen during the penultimate moments when Stark is reading the newspaper and reflecting on his adventures.
European home video versions of Avengers Assemble were digitally altered to censor the fatal impalement of a lead character.