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CatBus said:

Mike O said:

I don’t mean to be crude, but it sounds like good, bad, or indifferent, we won’t get them while Lucas is still alive.

So the date Star Wars fans are waiting for is the copyright expiration date – when someone other than Disney can release the films as they ought to be. If I thought there was any chance at all this would happen in my lifetime, I’d never have become involved in Star Wars preservation.

I’d bet money humanity will be extinct before Disney lets a single copyright they own expire. They have the money and the power to lobby congress for extensions indefinitely.
inhales deeply
Smell that? That’s the system hard at work my brother.

This is mildly depressing but I’m not surprised.

Mild take I guess but I thought it was alright up until about halfway through. Yeah I thought the hyperspace jumping was pretty stupid. But at least all the characters had something to do and contribute to the plot in the first half. And they were actually interacting with one another in ways that didn’t piss me off like the last movie.

Yeah they were chasing a Deus Ex Machina but I didn’t really care. I think Star Wars plots have always been rather basic and childish. As long as the characters are likable, interesting, and have good dynamics they could be fighting the 4th Death Sta… Oh wait… Now every ship is the Death Star. This is where the movie started to lose me and it just went downhill from there.

The movie after the first half really just felt like a retcon of TLJ, and for it’s flaws I’ve grown to slightly appreciate it. It has it’s moments. I liked most of the Ray and Luke stuff, and I thought the dynamic between Ray and Kylo had potential. I just didn’t like how every other character was on some side quest that felt like it (to me at least) was only there for filler because they couldn’t find anything for the characters to do of consequence.

I really feel bad for everyone who liked TLJ (and I see why, it has great moments), It just felt like a knee-jerk reaction by Disney based on the reaction of the last movie. Sad boi hours 😦.

poita said:

I got over the damn prequel poisoning, but then moved house to another city (which was a big move) and had some family crises that put everything else on hold for a while. I’ve only just started setting up my workstations etc again, and hope to have more time available for this in the coming months.

Clones is awaiting scanning, there are a few other movies in the queue, and I’ll need to get HDDs to store the scan (around 20TB for a scan of Clones), but it is on the list, and if there is interest here, it will get done.

Holy shit, I didn’t think the movie was that bad. Jokes aside dude, I’m glad to hear you’re okay.
I don’t think there exists a proper theatrical preservation of Clones. Last time I was on the Spleen the only theatrical version was a VCD rip. I could be wrong though, it’s been a WHILE since I’ve visited the place.

Just a daily reminder that the fan restoration/editing community is living on borrowed time.
Here’s some articles:
https://gamerant.com/star-wars-knights-old-republic-remake-apeiron-block/
https://play4.uk/star-wars-kotor-remake-project-blocked-by-lucasfilm-game-news-251

Why Disney cares about a fan remake of a 15 year old game that required a legal copy of the original game to run, for a series that’s been discontinued I have no idea. Happy 15th Anniversary to KotOR I guess. Not only can you not make your own Star Wars games (as shown by the cancellation of the Battlefront 3 fan project a few years ago), but I guess you can’t modify existing works either.

What burns me the most is EA, the company that (in)famously puts gambling mechanics in their games has exclusive rights to make Star Wars games. And all we have to show for it are two mediocre FPS games. Thanks for the insult to injury there Disney.

I’m sorry to blogpost guys, and I know I’m not the most well respected member of our community, but what are everyone’s thoughts about this? Were any of you also looking forward to this? Do you think that the fan edits/restorations on this site could be in jeopardy?

No Genesis love? Star Wars Arcade on 32X was my shit back in the day. And it’s one of the few good games on 32X that’s dirt cheap these days.

oojason said:

Too right, screams in the void ✊

(and love the artwork as well)
 

J0E said:

Racism is bad, mmmkay?

J0E - are you the lad that used a character’s ethnicity and size to try and denigrate them in one of the TLJ threads last year? And referred to another character as being a lesbian as you couldn’t be bothered to learn her name too? As the film didn’t make you care enough to learn them? - Though seemingly did make you care enough for you to criticize the characters in such a derogatory manner?

If so, I’m glad you’ve learnt that racism is bad. Good for you.

 

I seem to remember publicly apologizing in that same thread and apologizing directly to you via PM’s a few days later for being such an asshole. In my own admittedly weak defense, when I posted here, it was just a link to the picture. This was well before I heard about the harassment of the actress that played Rose. I thought this thread would be a “god everyone who dislikes the new movies is sexist” type deal. It doesn’t make it right and I’m well aware of that. Upon re-reading those posts I made in TLJ thread, It wasn’t my intention to come off the way I did, It looks really bad in retrospect. It looks bad because it is bad. I deeply regret what I said and I’m sorry.

@screams into the void
I’m sorry for coming into your well intentioned thread and shitposting. You have my deepest apologies buddy, God fucking speed.

Well I know I don’t have to go see it, I have yet to see Solo and honestly I don’t think I will for a very long time. I’m just saying it would be nice if there was a little more variety. But at the moment, I think the production schedules are just too small. I think we can all agree that Rouge One needed a little time in the oven with character development and TLJ could have used some time as well (I’m not going to get into TLJ because I don’t want to open that can of worms today).

I just think that once every couple years at least would not only give them more breathing room, but it might tighten up the scripts. You know what I mean? Not only that, but it would give the community time to get hype built up. It feels like the hype machine can’t catch up with how fast they’re putting these movies out, when it should be the other way around. Now admittedly I hate hype culture and I do my damnedest to stay away from it, but let’s be honest, TFA and RO had a lot of hype and it was really hard not to get excited for those films.

It’s not even a critique of the films themselves. I can take a sub-par Star Wars movie or five (all the s**t I talk about RO and TFA is nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking, I actually dig those flicks). I’ve been cool with that since The Caravan of Courage. Sorry for the wall of text, I ramble when I have a couple drinks after work 😃

I don’t it has “jumped the shark”. My issue with the new films is how fast they’ve been cranking this shit out. They aren’t giving the new movies any room to breath. The Force Awakens was a decent 6-6.5/10 flick but it was kinda relying too heavily on it’s sequel to pick up it’s slack. Rouge One was a nice change of pace and it was a nice appetizer before the main course (The Last Jedi). My biggest issue with RO was well, spoiler alert: they get the Death Star plans and personally I find the exhaust port thing being a flaw to be revisionist history. But that’s just par for the course with Star Wars. Then, The Last Jedi comes out and I’d say a solid 1/4 of the fanbase’s reception to the movie was negative (myself included). Then, about a week after TLJ hits video, Solo is out. I hadn’t even digested TLJ yet and next thing I know I see a trailer for Solo and it comes out in a week. Like, how didn’t I hear about this? (I guess I shouldn’t take long breaks from this site)

It’s not that I want Star Wars to be a “rare event”, I just don’t have the time for the Marvel movies. I don’t wanna see 3 films in the same series a year. Is it too much to ask just to space out the movies another year or two?

I want time to digest a movie. If Star Wars went the direction of the X-Men movies, with one every year or two (or 3) taking place in different eras, with different characters doing different things I’d be fine with it. But so far, it’s all people fighting Stormtroopers, flying X-wings, Shooting TIE Fighters, etc.

I mean, other than TFA and TLJ, everything has been ANOTHER fucking prequel. Is a whole TV series, and two feature films in the same era not enough? What about a movie or TV show that takes place in between the OT and the ST? The era everyone wants to know about?

It all just feels like more of the same, and it feels like I’m having things pushed on me I don’t want.

On a more serious note, am I the only one who noticed that they used the theme from Rebel Assault in TLJ? It wasn’t re-orchestrated, it even had the tinny 1990’s-2000’s CD-ROM sound a little bit. I mean, it’s a good game with a stellar synth score, but come on!

rodneyfaile said:

“That’s how we’re gonna win. Not fighting what we hate; saving what we love.”

Yeah I agree, don’t sacrifice yourself to save the lives of others. Just ignore what happened 5 minutes ago.

“Let the past die”

Racism is bad, mmmkay?

TV’s Frink said:

DROIDS DON’T HAVE GENDER

One could say they’re non-BINARY

Bum tiss

I know this is going to be controversial, but I HIGHLY recommend the 1997 SE Limited Edition Collectors Set if you happen upon it at Goodwill or something. The '92 set is supremely badass as well. The Phantom Menace widescreen set is pretty cool too, with a strip of 35mm film like the '97 set and a concept art book.

DuracellEnergizer said:

TPM’s characters aren’t great, neither is the acting, and the story’s a mess, but the movie wasn’t so flawed that it singlehandedly killed the PT; two great sequels could’ve made up for its shortcomings. Neither AOTC nor ROTS have that saving grace; they introduced more and greater flaws, undermining the PT’s foundation further, spoiling any chance for course correction.

That’s my perspective, anyway.

Sure, the plot in TPM is a mess, dialogue is stiff, characters are boring and Jar-Jar is… Jar Jar. But what I love about it is the fun and intense Star Wars action set-pieces and the movie moves at such a frantic pace, that I never get bored watching it until you get to Coruscant. But hey, that’s why they invented the “skip chapter” button on the front of every DVD player ever made. After that the movie picks right back up.

It’s become a guilty pleasure of mine over the past couple years, because it’s embarrassing Star Wars porn and I love it.

TV’s Frink said:

This bump made me especially sad.

I didn’t forget, this feature would be great for late-night lurkers such as myself.

dylanv1025 said:

LordZerome1080 said:

Found another one. https://m.ebay.com/itm/Star-Wars-Original-Trilogy-Despecialized-Edition-3-Blu-Ray-Set-SEALED-BRAND-NEW/162905430089?hash=item25edeb9849:g:FvoAAOSwIFtZ~TN1

Wtf, how did he get it “sealed”?

I work at a Party City and we sell giant rolls of cello wrap. It isn’t hard to wrap things in it, you just have to be good at wrapping and gluing. What would be REALLY impressive is if they were shrink wrapped.

TV’s Frink said:

How is that a meme anyway?

Stating the obvious, AKA it was obvious why the account was banned. It seemed pretty meta at the time but now I just feel like an asshole. Dude I am sincerely sorry.

TV’s Frink said:

J0E said:

Why was Ric Olie banned? When will he be back?

The no fun police decided to put a zero-sock policy in place and apply it retroactively. Not even the best ever sock of all time was allowed, despite previously being allowed for several years, once the decision was made.

I’m still pretty darn mad about it honestly. So thanks for scratching at that old wound.

Shit dude I was just memeing, I’m sorry.

Why was Ric Olie banned? When will he be back?

ChainsawAsh said:

yhwx said:

At the risk of sounding lame, I don’t really approve of this thread.

Understandable. For the record, other than pot I don’t do drugs particularly frequently anymore - coke 3-5 times a year at most, MDMA slightly more often, LSD 2-3 times a year, and the rest are pretty much once a year or less, or I tried them before and probably won’t do them again.

And I have my limits - I won’t touch heroin, crack, meth, etc. ever in my life. I’ve seen what those do to people and I don’t want any part of that. And I’m pretty careful about how frequently I do things like coke, which is IMO my worst vice.

Frankly, I think alcohol is much worse than most of the other things I’ve listed here. (Though I say that as I sip a bourbon and ginger beer…)

I honestly only ever got drunk once in highschool at my friend’s grad party. I’ll have the occasional beer during baseball season but that’s it.

With weed, I can’t smoke it. The first drug I ever did was spice and I had a seizure at school. After that, I feel like I’m gonna have another experience whenever I even take a toke. I’d much rather drink Redbull, trip on shrooms and watch some Space 1999.

ray_afraid said:

J0E said:

You can pick apart the OT Plinkett style if you wanted to.

People say this, but nobody does because nobody can.
We’re back to the ol’ “There all bad movies!” argument again. bluh.

You completely missed the point.

Never once did I say “they’re all bad movies”. I said that the plot takes a back seat to the characters and character interactions. I’m willing to suspend my disbelieve at the holes in Star Wars, the few holes in Empire, and the massive holes and tonal shifts in Jedi because I’m invested in the characters.

Valheru_84 said:

Ok…so for someone that really doesn’t like TLJ (just shy of hate) and hates what RJ and Disney have done to SW with TLJ, this analysis video is absolutely beautiful! That is not to say that it’s not also very watchable / listenable by people that like the movie as he does a great job on remaining pretty unbiased and simply poses logical questions and really explains where his point of view comes from.

It is in similar vein to the Red Letter Media detailed critical analysis videos of the prequels and equally as long, if not longer. This is only the first of 3 parts and it’s 1hr and 22min by itself but it’s interesting and on point from start to finish, I had no trouble listening the whole way through.

It is very much a detailed and in depth movie critique rather than the usual ranting review or opinion piece from one or another of the varying extreme views out there (and therefore there are no pre-warnings required for this video 😉 ):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw7pcCj0ORk

Val

I’ve seen it, and personally I’m not a fan of the Plinkett style reviews, at least in terms of Star Wars. For the most part, this guy is just picking apart the plot scene by scene. As far as I’m concerned, the plot has always been a backdrop for the characters, and harping on it is completely missing the point. You can pick apart the OT Plinkett style if you wanted to. My biggest problem with The Last Jedi are the inconsistencies in tone and inconsistencies in characters from The Force Awakens and the previous films.

New Listing:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Star-Wars-Despecialized-Original-Trilogy-Blu-ray-Box-Set-Documentaries/263454233304?hash=item3d571892d8:g:2S0AAOSwJJVZuCH0

TV’s Frink said:

J0E said:

TV’s Frink said:

J0E said:

with how dumb it was not to let a loose cannon like Poe who openly disobeys orders in on the plan

And what happens when they let him in on the plan and he disagrees with it? He blows it up.

I got no problem with that.

Like I said, a nit-pick

But that’s not what it is. A nit-pick is a minor complaint that makes sense. Your Poe complaint doesn’t make sense.

Okay? I don’t see what the point is in being hung up on my minor points that I dismissed immediately in my original post. The larger point of my post was that I fundamentally disagree with Rey’s characterization in this film, because it feels like her arc isn’t earned.