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#225346
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SUPERMAN RETURNS REVIEW
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Hey, I got that same superman shirt (on the right). I really wanted to get a pink shirt with a sparkly S-shield, but I couldn't find one. I saw one once, but oh well.

And to answer the continuity question: I actually heard that Superman Returns takes continuity from Superman I and II, but not fully. I'm not sure what that means, but I guess in the Superman Returns world Superman did sleep with Lois, but this time she remembered. That is also why we can throw out III and IV in the continuity structure. I don't know what is up Singer's sleeve for the next film or what is going to be introduced in the Donner edit DVD, but it will all make sense some how.

I may be a geek, but I'm willing to over look some continuity problems to just enjoy the movie. Same with the up and coming Batman Begins 2 movie. Apparently the Joker is in the next film and the Burton film is going into the "whatever" pile along with Batman & Robin, Batman Forever, Sups III, IV, Supergirl, Star Trek V, Godfather III, Star Wars PT, Temple of Doom, Jurassic Park III, and whatever gives us headaches.
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#225286
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Transformers Trailer
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Well, I loved Pearl Harbor. Yes, yes, it's a suck balls fest of a movie, but I still love it anyway. Maybe this movie will magically be fun as well.

What I can't wait for is the Wonder Woman movie that will be coming out. Of course, casting hasn't started yet, but I'm looking forward to seeing this movie. I hear they are trying desperatly to give it the Batman Begins treatment. Hells yeah.
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#225263
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Originally posted by: Warbler
Althought now that think of it I do question the spying on Lois bit. Not just because the Superman from the comics wouldn't act that way, but because the Superman from Superman I and II wouldn't do that either.


Really? Are you sure? Because the Superman from the first movie didn't have any problem taking a peak at Lois' pretty pink panties. If that isn't creepyly perverted I don't know what is.

And I don't care that Lois asked "what color underwear am I wearing?" [/skank], Superman shouldn't have looked. Hell, the lead wall was in the way and after Lois moved and had gone on to the next question he then took the opportunity to sneak a peak instead of moving on to the next question with Lois. Really gentlemanly of you Sups. *rolles eyes*

Superman wasn't watching Lois undress and then have sex with Richard. He was eaves dropping, yes, but Lois really wasn't talking to him that much anyway. And as soon as he found out that "she never really did love him" he took his leave and left the family alone. That doesn't sound like a peeping tom to me.
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#225256
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Originally posted by: Warbler

Does anyone else have a small problem them deciding to throw out Superman III and IV? I know they were terrible movies, but they were made. It is right or fair to throw them out of the continuity? Does this mean the creaters of Star Trek can throw out Star Trek V. What about Godfather III?


Nope. No problem here. All those movies suck ass and can fall off the face of the earth. To me (and many other people) they simply don't exist.

And about "how can Lois know about Sups son?" question. I don't know. There is cut footage from SR that we'll see on the DVD, plus the Donner edit of Superman II coming out soon.

Singer said that SR is not so much a continuation from Superman II but takes references from I and II and makes SR it's own movie. I don't know how well that could work, but there you go. I have a feeling that Lois's mind wipe just took away her knowledge that Clark was Superman, but I bet she remebered the great sex.
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#225174
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You know what is really scary? I have a feeling that this reboot is going to become a trilogy. We'll have the next film (which hopfully will rock) and then the third one in 2012. What I have a feeling will happen is that Superboy will essentially step into his father's shoes as the new hero of earth. Of course this really could only happen is if Superman dies. If that were to happen, believe me, I will be balling my eyes out.
And I can see that happening. Richard is a good character and obviously a loving father. Superman was raised by human parents, and superboy might too. Having Superman die (heoroically of course) will end the love triangle and give superboy the chance to grow up and take on his assumed role.

This, is just idle speculation on my part, but I can see the story going in this direction if need be. It would be gut wrenching to watch though. But we need good gut wrenching movies now and again.
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#225153
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Star Wars prequel Box set
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
i don't think a box set is coming anytime soon considering lucas is still tinkering with his prequel films, and 2007 will see episode one in 3-d with the all digital yoda. 2008 attack of the clones, 2009 revenge of the sith. with lucas one a year policy that means his super duper special editions 3-d version of the older trilogy will be 2010 a new hope, 2011 empire strikes back, and 2012 return of the jedi.


Yeah, that is kind of stupid. The whole 3D thing doesn't seem to be up to speck yet. People who went and saw Superman Returns in 3D weren't all that wow'd with the effects. You could hear sighs as the signal for the glasses to be put on flicked on. And of course, 3D gives me headaches personally (and I'm not the only one), so starting with the PT is going to hurt. And by the time the OT hits the IMAX theaters, people will have been turned off to the idea.
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#225121
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Pirates of the Caribbean Two
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I've been hearing mixed reviews. I wasn't a fan of the first one, so I may just wait to rent it. I like Johnny Depp's character, but I don't know if that is a big enough draw for me to go see it. Depp, Bloom. Ehh. I gave up on pretty boys when I was 15.

(but take that with a grain of salt because this is coming from the same girl who wasn't all that thrilled about the Lord of the Ring's movies either. Pfftt... and I call myself a nerd.)
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#225119
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Spider-Man 3
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The movie might be good, but then again it could suck royally. Spider-Man 2 was okay, but some of the stuff in the movie drives me nuts. Like when people are screaming and running around on the ground you have some woman come up the camera and scream right in it like it was a goddamn Godzilla movie. *rolles eyes* I hate that. Plus the musical number "Rain drops keep falling on my head" seemed a little...out of place. Plus, who in NYC doesn't know Peter Parker is Spider-man?

I didn't hate the film, but parts annoyed me. That being said, my expectations for this 3rd film are low. You have 3 bad guys, plus the good and evil version of Spider-man. This movie is going to be 4 freakin' hours long! Plus, I don't like the whole "teenage emo" look Peter is putting on when he is evil spider-man's alter ego. I'm surprised that he isn't wearing black eye liner and a hot topic t-shirt.
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#225118
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Wow, I must be cut from a different cloth or something. I just watched Batman Begins again for the second time (I rented it from the library) just so I could have a comparison to when people say "it's not as good as BB." The whole time watching BB all I could hear was Peter Griffin saying, "The movie insists upon itself." (that and seeing Katie Holms and giggling like a mad woman at the knowledge she's married to a nut case.) Not that BB was a bad movie, far from it, but I think there was too much going on. Only now did I get the whole "league of shadows" in relation to microwave getting stolen. Whew!

But this isn't about BB (as good as it is). Like I said before, I think my love for Superman Returns is coupled with the fact that the only exposure I've had to Superman my entire life was a viewing of the first film for the first time about 2 weeks ago and watching the "Look up in the Sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's the Amazing story of Superman!" on A&E. That being said, loving SR is very easy for me.

I think that even moral compasses are allowed to have emotional conflict. I never liked Superman because he was too much of a boy scout. Not that it is a bad thing, but it is a boring thing. The character oozes truth, justice, saving kittens, bake sales, and moral superiority. By making him more vunerable and emotinally torn it makes him more relatable to the audiance. I've been in situations where I know I need to do the right thing, but I'm emotionally hurt at the center at the same time. I like this Superman better.

And I don't think that Richard thinks that Jason is his own biological son. Unless Lois skanked herself up and slept with him right after Superman left, he couldn't even think it was his own. But I bet he's been with Lois for about 4 years and taken on the role of "daddy" with full vigor. I think Richard knows that Jason is not his son, but I don't think he thinks it's Supermans (but he might suspect.)
I think all these questions will be answered in the next film.
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#225016
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Eh, the only real problem I had with the film was the plot... Luthor's plan was way out there even for Lex Luthor,

Really? Not even his first movie's "I'm going to hijack a nuclear missile and blow up San Andrea's fault so that california sinks in to the ocean?" *rolls eyes*

Originally posted by: TheSessler
I agree, they could have at least left his son to a sequel or something down the road, but bringing him out in the first film in the "re-boot" of the franchise wasn't the smartest thing, in my opinion.


I thought it made perfect timing. I mean, wouldn't the audiance think it confusing that Lois all of a sudden had a son that wasn't even mentioned in the previous movie? If they were going to put Sups son in the continuing story line it would have to be in this one. The next movie down the road wouldn't make any sense, you know?


Personally, all I want is a sequel to this movie (and of course a third one). As long as that happens, I don't care what people say about this movie. I mean dispite some of the bad-mouthing this movie seems to be getting from people, in it's first 7 days it made over 106 million bucks. Obviously it still has to make back the 200 million that was spent, but along with it's final run + the international money it will make, I know it will at least break even. This movie alone has blown IMAX box office records out of the water. Even Star Wars Episode III couldn't do that.
I know this movie won't be a flop. Okay, it's no "Spider-Man" but it's no "Dare Devil" either. If they can make a sequel to "The Mask" I think they'll make a sequel to this movie. And that will make me very happy.
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#224905
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Originally posted by: greencapt
Second if the 'fanboy' crowd has complaints about this movie it is that Bryan Singer made a COPY of one director's interpretation of a character and INGNORED years and years of history of that character. Whether people like 'Superman' the comic or character or not I feel there was very little to be gained by 'modernizing' him in the way that Singer did and more importantly THROWING out the fundamental nature of the character, the very things that make the character who he is, for the sake of 'emotionalizing' him in a way that the director could better relate to.

...Saving people in and of itself is not heroic. There has to be heart and morals behind it. And the SR version of Superman, IMHO, has no heroic heart behind it. He's mopey, mostly self-serving and obsessive- but that is not Superman. At least not the Superman I've read in comics, seen in TV shows or even seen in the original 'Superman' films.



But see, that's my point. I'm not knocking you, but people are having problems simply enjoying this movie for what it is. Superman has gone through countless changes this is just another chapter in his saga. Hell, they even killed him in the comics. But because this movie it isn't what the comics are, people hate it. I have never touched a comic in my life, nor seen any TV show. And I saw the first movie when I was about 14 and wasn't all that impressed. (Maybe that is why I love SR so much. I have nothing to "compare" it to. I'm an unfettered mind. I like the direction they are taking the character because I don't know where he has been.)

But my complant is that these are the same people who bitched about the X-Men movies too. "The X-Men movie was essentially the Wolverine Show." "Juggernaut was not a mutant!" "Gene Grey did not become the Pheniox in that way! It was the alien that did it!"

I believe that the MOVIES and the COMICS are 2 separate worlds. In the movies, they are allowed to take creative liberties, just like they did with X-Men. People get set in their ways about how the super heroes are supposed to be, what they say, what they think, what they wear, and what they eat. When someone comes along and alters their mind set the fans wig out and say it was a horrible movie.

Granted SR has it's flaws but they seem small to me compared to the great stuff found in the film. The graphics were amazing, the dialogue was fine, the story line and plot were engrossing, and the characters were emotional and believeable. This isn't TPM we are talking about now. There weren't fart jokes and Jar Jar antics and forced wooden dialogue. People didn't like SR because the slap stick comic book hero they read about in the comics wasn't up on screen.

And I think that is a horrible way to judge a movie. Even Kevin Spacey said that this movie should be judged on its own merrit and not in comparison to the old films. As goofy as the old film was, it seem to be enjoyable. But me personally? 70's graphics aside, I found the Superman the movie to be...tedious. There were just too many antics for me to enjoy the film. But I guess that is what Superman really is. He's not a "dark" and emotional comic. So when SR took that route, people got upset. And that makes me sad.
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#224879
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
I personally enjoyed SR. Not perfect like BB, but worth my time.


That is so strange. I hear EVERYONE comparing SR to Batman Begins when in all honosty the two should be judged differently. Not to mention the fact that I take the polar opposite when I say that Batman Begins was good, but Superman Returns was better. I saw BB in the theater, once, and never bought the DVD (and I'm a HUGE Batman fan, for crying out loud) and with SR, I've seen it twice and plan on seeing it a 3rd time when my cousins come to visit me.
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#224875
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Pirates of the Caribbean Two
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Originally posted by: HotRod
mmm Not seen Superman yet, won't be out here till next week.
I do hope it's good. That's the film I was most looking forward to seeing this summer, so to like Pirates was a bonus.



Oh yes, you MUST see Superman Returns (I seem to be the official gusher of this film. I've seen it twice.)

And Pirates 2...well, I wasn't all that wow'd by the first film (it killed an afternoon for me) and the second film? All I can say is "ehh" with a shrug.
To quote Stewie Griffin on Johnny Depp: "What's his appeal?"
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#224873
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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
So I hear that the box office performance of Superman Returns is not up to par. I guess now I'll have to see it out of pity for the box office.


There is nothing wrong with the movie (but please do go see it ). It's the whiny fan boys who bitch coming out of the theater that there weren't enough "OMG EXPLOSIONS!!111!1" that send a bad word of mouth.

Superman dealing with deep emotions over the fact that the woman he loves more than anything (and freaking turned back time for!) doesn't love him anymore...yeah, the neck bearded nerds don't really care for that.

Hell, I have a feeling that if Hollywood made a movie based on the nerd's life where he has constant sex with a supermodel while playing Halo 2 we would hear complants that "The supermodel wasn't thin enough and I should have been playing Halo 2 on a plasma screen! God, idiots."

I'm not saying that people who didn't like the movie fall under this catagory, but I'd be willing to bet my paycheck that a vast majority do. I mean, for godsake, people still flock to Adam Sandler movies in droves. Fuck this country.


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#224734
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
I'm working on my niece's education by letting her watch I and II, then I hope to take her to Returns. I think she's more excited about Pirates 2 though. *sigh*


Yeah, when my 17, 14, and 13 year old cousins come to visit me they'll most surely want to see a movie in the theater. I will cry if they say they want to see PotC 2 over Superman Returns.

"Uh, sorry guys, but Pirates isn't playing at this theater. Looks like we'll have to go see Superman Returns."
"But...but it says right there on the marque that it's playing in 3 theaters."
"No, no, that's the porno version Prostitutes of the Caribean: Grab my Chests. You don't want to see that."
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#224559
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Originally posted by: greencapt


For me the one who wins THAT award was Kate Capshaw in 'Temple of Doom'. Sheesh! That film would have worked SO much better for me if I hadn't have had to listen to her shriek and whine through the entire film.


No kidding. The only reason she got that role was because she was doing the director. Still, that movie blowed donkey balls and still got a sequel (which was the best of the 3).

Man, I hope for a Superman Returns Sequel. We've already got a good plot line established and I wanna see how things turn out with the whole love triangle and *spoiler wisper* Upermansay onsay.

For as bad as people are bad mouthing this movie, 75% of the critic reviews have been good. You have to remember that this movie is battling 5 fronts:
1) Bring back to life a dead franchise
2) Remove the stink of the last suck-tacular films that were splashed all over the good name of Superman
3) Bring back the fans of the old movies
4) Bring in new fans to the Superman story (I fall under this one)
5) And to top it all off, this movie is not "Superman Begins." They had to start in the middle of an already developed story and take it from there. Unlike Batman, some doors and options were no longer open to suggestion. Superman had to work with what he was given in Superman II.

And I think it was wonderful. When my cousins come to visit, I might see it a 3rd time. I love it that much.