INVAR

Sido Dyas said:

I don’t know if it was discussed before or not, but there is a continuity error in the movie.
On the Endor moon, when Luke talks to Leia, he says:

“Vader is here…now, on this moon.”
And then we see that he is not. He arrives when Luke is delivered to an imperial base.
From the script:

"EXT .FOREST - IMPERIAL LANDING PLATFORM
An Imperial shuttle floats down from the Death Star and lands gracefully on the huge platform.
Now, an Imperial walker approaches the platform from the darkness of the forest. The whole outpost - platform, walkers, military - looks particularly offensive in the midst of this verdant beauty.

EXT. IMPERIAL LANDING PLATFORM - LOWER DECK
Darth Vader walks down the ramp of the shuttle onto the platform, …"

Can this be fixed in this edit?

No need. It was made self-evident during the approach to Endor on the shuttle that Luke sensed Vader and that likewise, Vader sensed his son. There is no continuity error in the scene as it is. “Vader is here now, on this moon” in the Star Wars universe is like saying ‘Vader is here now in this system’. Means the same thing - especially when trying to hurriedly convey to Leia why he must leave the group. “Here now, on this moon” is the urgency Luke needed to convey to her, so she would accept his decision to depart.

Besides, there is a musical flow to the editing in the sequence in which it transitions from the Ewok village to the shuttle landing. I’d hate to lose that.

exitzero said:
Looks like Lucas considered it. Sure enough, I never noticed it before. There is a lightsaber slash across the middle of Boba’s Jet Pack when Han bumps it with his stick-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO6YyW3iwHw

Yes. Exactly. I recalled that from sometime back, from a storyboard book some some years ago - so the idea is not mine, but something Lucas originally drafted and would be more fitting. In fact, I wonder if part of that scene as originally storyboarded was filmed. Chewey falls on top of Han in the actual film and Han says “Chewey, you hit?” which would fit the original storyboard of Fett shooting Chewey first before turning his blaster on Luke - who then proceeds to then cut the blaster in half. Luke then cuts off Fetts arm after cutting the rope Fett shoots around him before slashing the jet pack. Not sure when they decided to change the scene, but my guess is that may have been done on set for the ‘joke’.

I would leave Fett’s “death” alone as far as what the original cut of Jedi showed in terms of him falling into the sarlaac with the belch. If money and talent were available to have a tentacle wrap him up and drag him into the belly - then that would be fitting.

The only thing I wish that could get the ‘Adywan treatment’ in that scene, would be for Luke to be the one whom sends Fett into the Sarlaac. Perhaps after he cuts the rope Fett shoots around him with his gauntlet, either Luke flings his saber or he swings it and hits Fett’s backpack to send him off the Skiff and into the side of the barge. The whole ‘joke bit’ with Han, being blind and accidentally hitting him with the pike pole was ludicrous - even at the Midnight premiere on May 25th 1983. Everyone groaned - no one laughed. Even then. Plus Luke damaging his jetpack would lend itself to his fate more believably that Han hitting it with a pole on accident.

So we do not need to see Fett’s survival now covered in the TV show on Disney+. As far as the story goes, having Fett taken out of the equation is all the story needs to tell.

Here’s to hoping we will get to see similar EFX of the quality of Mr. Day in ROTJ:R

B-wing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC55NBBRRN4

Adding to the Wish List.

Would be good to see a couple Rebel Pilots discover why it is so important that Han gets that shield down.

Cinefy said:

I recently watched you’re Revisits for ANH and ESB and after seeing those I began thinking about some of the changes you may be making to ROTJ, one thing recently introduced into the new canon was the replacement of Nik Sant with Captain Rex from the animated Clone Wars television series, Dave Filoni the producer/director confirming the Rebel on Endor ‘Nik Sant’ was indeed him.
https://ibb.co/Wx4XFrJ

Wondering if it is possible to edit Nik Sant and make his appearance more similar to Rex to fit with the continuity of new canon.

If I recall correctly, Adywan said that he will NOT be entertaining that inclusion, and rather leave the appearance as it was in the original film. That way, if you as an individual want to see him as Captain Rex, then that works just fine. It’s immaterial to the story ROTJ is telling and would simply be an Easter Egg for fans. The cost to do what you suggest will be better spent on the B-wing attack and Endor ground battle additions with the added efx for a new destruction of the Executor.

adywan said:

Boba is going to die and there will be no doubt that he is dead in ROTJ:R. How this is going to happen? Well, that hasn’t been fully decided just yet.

If I could venture an opinion, which would require some minimal filming and potentially some CGI depending on how elaborative a death one wanted to create for him - you could do it real quick like in the final battle.

In the film, Fett Lands on the Skiff and points his blaster, Luke cuts it in two upon which a blast from the Barge hits Chewie. Han yells about Chewie being hit whereby Luke looks down in concern on them - at that moment Fett shoots a bola rope around Luke and it twirls around him, Luke then uses his saber to cut the rope at the very second the skiff is hit with another blast from the barge.

My suggestion is that instead of Fett being knocked down to the floor of the skiff before Han accidentally hits Fett’s backpack to send him off the skiff as in the film - what about that blast literally hitting Fett because Luke cutting the rope causes Fett to stagger backwards into the blast which sends Fett careening end-over-end off of the skiff with smoke trailing his form (like the Biker Scout blasted off the Speeder Bike by Chewie later on) into the sand below? Get rid of Han doing the “Boba Fett? Where?” moment. It would showcase the inferiority of Jabba’s goons and also show that stormtroopers are not the only bad shots in the galaxy. Then you can have some playtime with Fett’s ‘death’. You could for example have a tentacle from the sarlaac wrap around Fett as he is trying to get up from the sand and have it drag him under the sand ala ‘jaws’ and instead of the belch we saw from the vagina in the crater in the original, you could change that to a burp from the sand that Fett was dragged under, that sends up a geyser of sand and some of Fett’s armor, gauntlets and helmet, minus the man who once wore them. I think that would solidify Fett’s ‘death’ and it’s done in a way that is in keeping with the way Lucas might have otherwise done it without the lame attempt to make Han’s blindness comedic.

Just a thought.

ChainsawAsh said:

Adywan has stated multiple times that he won’t be using any deleted scenes, so discussions of using them in an edit should probably go in the OT general fan edit ideas thread instead of in here.

I was not discussing inserting the deleted Vader/choking Jerjerrod scene, rather a version of it that was written in the novelization that was at one point, in the shooting script. Somewhere along the line it was shot and altered to dump the Moff in there - possibly when it was intended to have Jerjerrod assigned by Palatine to ‘keep an eye on Vader’ given the original screenplay drafts.

My discussion would entail shooting a new scene altogether if it was ever considered, not using the deleted one.

Ady,

I know you have a full plate and I am forever grateful for what you did with both Revisited films thus far. They are my ONLY go-to versions, though for nostalgia I do have Harmy’s Despecialized, but prefer yours because I like all the continuity fixes and additions you made. It truly is what we deserved to get back in 1997.

That said, aside from creating a new spectacular end to the Executor which I know you have listed - I wonder aloud if you might consider a scene that was scripted and shot - that might find a reimagining into ROTJ:Revisited.

In 1983 we felt short-changed with Vader when leaving our first viewing, and how Vader was handled in ROTJ. He was a vastly different character rather than the menacing ‘no-nonsense from anyone villain’ we got to see in Empire. I know Lucas softened him to make him sympathetic and a tragic figure rather than a villain by the time he got to scripting Jedi - but we at least wanted to see some glimmers of the villain we saw in ESB.

There is a scene in the ROTJ Novelization by Glut that absolutely thrilled me when I read it, and wished to Lucas that he had filmed that scene exactly as written and put it in the movie.

The scene has Vader walking to the elevator tube on DSII to go see Emp, which is flanked by two red Imperial Guards who step out with their force pikes and inform him “You may not enter”. Vader immediately and without hesitation force chokes both of them, lifting them off the ground. One manages to gurgle: “It is the Emperor’s command” - upon which Vader releases them immediately to fall in a clump on the floor while Vader turns to a side window and says flatly “I shall await his convenience”.

The filmed Deleted scene with Jerjerrod is just sorely lacking, but what the novel described above I thought is as quick and intense as the “Bring my shuttle” line that you fixed (Thank you) in ESB:R. I know this personal wish is probably a ridiculous question to even suggest and probably even more ridiculous to even make happen - but hey, Ronster tends to rub off on you after awhile.

Best regards.

ChainsawAsh said:

INVAR said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I still think it’d be nice to add a bit of the Imperial March to the scene when Vader arrives on the Tantive, though that would mean replacing a small bit of original music.

I already created a brief edit to show what that might look and sound like. It’s minimalist, but it works.

https://player.vimeo.com/video/225892219

That’s exactly how it played out in my head. Very happy you tried this out and that it worked so well. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks. Hopefully Adywan got a glimpse of it. I think it works, but he may not.

ChainsawAsh said:

I still think it’d be nice to add a bit of the Imperial March to the scene when Vader arrives on the Tantive, though that would mean replacing a small bit of original music.

I already created a brief edit to show what that might look and sound like. It’s minimalist, but it works.

https://player.vimeo.com/video/225892219

Possessed said:

If any additional music is needed I’ve always thought the music from the sky hook battle in the Shadows of the Empire sound track would fit well in the rotj death star battle.

That could work, the last 45 seconds of Beggars Canyon chase cold work also but it’s McNeely and not Williams. It is possible to re-edit the ‘Fleet goes to hyperspace’ cue and change the order of cue to match with an assault of B-wings on the star destroyer. The opening section of that cue is :19 seconds and might be enough for the segment he is inserting.

Someone tell Adywan that Bandai is releasing a screen accurate 1/72 B-wing.

http://www.taghobby.com/archives/260551

One thing that no one has yet considered in terms of fan-edits is the fact that there is a FULL HOUR of stuff that was cut out of this movie. I recall the actors being surprised that entire full sequences they shot for weeks were lifted out of the film completely.

So there may be things on the cutting room floor that might speak to plot holes and logic problems we have with the story itself.

And why the hell couldn’t it be Lando Poe was calling to get help with finding a codebreaker? That would so fit with the character and Billie Dee could have done it with gravitas - PLUS it would give us a hope that Lando has a few friends of the Resistance still out there. Missed opportunity, and better.

NeverarGreat said:

With my biggest issue being the fragmentary storyline, I’d like to see an edit where the First Order is still hunting for the Resistance base at the start of the film. This would require using a modified version of TFA Restructured, where they never learn of the Ilenium system in the first place.

With this change, I could frontload The Last Jedi with Luke and Rey material, picking up right where we left off in the previous film. There would be more time to breathe (and reach out!) in this part, now that there’s less of a ticking clock Resistance plot to draw us away from Rey’s journey. It could be implied that she spends a great deal of time on the island trying to get information from Luke and learning things on the way.

Near the end of her time on the island, we’d introduce the Resistance as the they try to evacuate their base. The slow, illogical cat and mouse fuel plot can then be reduced. Rose and Finn still travel to Casino planet, but only because Rose knows from experience that their hacker can be found there.

The rest of the movie plays out pretty much as it is. I agree that some of the humor is too much even for Star Wars, like the AT-ST. It should be quite grim after the Casino planet.

Broom boy should probably stay. It’s just a great moment.

I can concur with that kind of a re-edit, I just do not know how you erase the whole Ilenium system plot device from TFA, unless you erase that ridiculous sun-sucking mechanism and change how the light fades on the gantry before Han gets run though.

darthrush said:

My full idea for the ENTIRE finn/rose subplot is the following:

1. Finn says that they surely cannot get past the shield. Poe raises his head as if he has an idea. We get the Maz scene. I really don’t have any problem with this scene like others. Maz is shown to always be caught up in something. It further connects both films and we get a great joke for me where she kind of gets sexual and just makes everyone uncomfortable. This stays for logic sense and for my appreciation of it.
2. Then we have our first scene of Canto Bight. I would cut down as many weird shots of aliens, champagne, and jokes as possible. Sadly, the public property joke has to stay since that’s the reason they get put in a cell. I also would cut the entire part where Rose talks about the fathiers. Overall, just making this scene as quick as possible.
3. Once they’re in the cell, cut the joke about not needing DJ’s help. Like RogueLeader suggested, we cut from DJ walking out the cell and them following, to the ship leaving. You would flip the shot of Finn and Rose leaving the cell to show that they went the same direction and axe her line of “This way” so it feels less like they went on some detour and rather that they followed him. This would get rid of the entire fathier chase sequence.
4. We next see them on their way back. This scene stays intact.

Hopefully this would make for a much shorter subplot. If there are any ideas to make an even more radically cut down version of this that sacrifices less screen time then I would love to hear it out. Anything to mitigate this part of the film.

I think one of the subtext highlights of the film for me was to showcase the effect the downtrodden suffered by those getting rich off of funding conflict in the galaxy. The tinder for what may come in terms of rebellion is only showcased on Canto Bight. While I agree the fathier chase is unnecessary, the stuff Rose talks about in regards to slaves serving the entertainments of the rich is important in terms of setting the stage for what is left of the Resistance to spark a fire among all of the downtrodden, which is where a true rebellion can be reborn.

I would think excising that damages the subtext of where Episode 9 might really take off.

RogueLeader said:

I think Rey being a nobody was a great idea and making her related to someone would kind of hurt the message that greatness doesn’t have to come from greatness. I know that doesn’t really explain her raw abilities, but in my mind, everyone’s connection to the Force seems to be amplified comapred to past Force users (even broom kid), so after being dormant for 50 years, besides flowing through an existing few, it is now rushing through everyone.

The theme of balance was dominant in the Prequels and since then that theme has carried over to the OT and to the sequel trilogy. It was arrogant to assume only the Jedi could bring balance, the Force itself could correct the course and this new trilogy could go a long ways towards explaining that. That Luke closed himself off from the Force left a vacuum that perhaps the Force itself decided to act upon with Rey. I do like that the Force is again not limited to Jedi and Skywalkers, something the Prequels established as some kind of canon.

I personally loved Snoke getting killed the way he did, as it makes Kylo Ren a much stronger character for it,

Me too. Kylo achieves what Vader couldn’t and because of what he did in killing his Master and taking over himself, he has become more powerful than Darth Vader. It will be interesting to see if JJ takes Kylo to where we all wanted to see Vader doing in Sith - but never got except at the end of Rogue One.

but I do think some kind of explanation of where he came from would have been nice. If they don’t really explain anything about him in IX, I think editors could consider ways to touch on his background in some way, either in the TFA crawl or Rey’s force vision maybe.

I am pretty sure books and comics are forthcoming to fill in his backstory. Getting rid of Snoke at this stage really puts all the focus on Kylo Ren as the ultimate baddie and Kylo not being slave to a superior Dark Side master. I’m intrigued about where they take his character now that he is the boss and is no longer unstable because of conflict with the good.

Someone mentioned this earlier, but I also have a bit of problem with Luke almost killing his nephew. I think it is implied that Luke saw the future and for a brief, desperate moment considered killing his own blood to save the rest of his students before quickly realizing that was a mistake.

Not just the students, but the galaxy. Obi wan told Luke that his failure as a teacher had resulted in dire consequences for the galaxy in the script and novelizAtion of ROTJ. If you look, Luke’s face is almost identical to his face in Jedi after he cuts off Vader’s hand and realizes the giant mistake he was about to make.

But I don’t think it is as clear as I would have liked, because it feels like it goes against everything he learned in the OT.

Being a teacher is an entirely different animal than becoming a master. You end up learning more about yourself as a teacher and your own shortcomings than if you do not teach what you have learned. As a martial artist, I can absolutely understand how and why Luke decided to quit after his star pupil misused his teachings.

Also, I don’t think the Yoda sequence should be removed! I agree that Yoda looked off but I honestly think we’ll get used to it given time.

I agree it’s Yoda - and even though it is not as perfect in appearance as he was in the prequels or Empire - it is Frank Oz doing the entire performance with the voice.

Overall I enjoyed this a lot more than TFA. I wanted to be surprised and not another reboot retread which is what I feared it was going to be based on the trailers, so I was pleasantly surprised. It touches on a lot of deeper things than the superficial and turns what was getting stale, onto it’s head and hands a clean slate over to do something even more original in the next one. The main focus now squarely pegged on Kylo versus Rey, given that Kylo has now surpassed where Vader was able to go.

The big sticking point with a lot of people is the Leia/Mary Poppins thing. I have to wonder if the way that ended up being done was after Carrie Fisher actually passed away and it was a nod by the production to see Carrie as an angel of sorts and they did that as a kind of personal homage. I would have preferred that she was buried under wreckage and we got to see her use the force to get it off of her and then make her way to the door. But, if it was done to make a subtle statement about Carrie - it will be hard to be pissed off about it.

If a fan edit were to ‘fix’ this - it might require some really clever reshot elements. It could be done by having a pile of twisted durasteel in what is left of the bridge suddenly moving and lifting up by itself and cut quickly to her hand on the door window. Makes the same point without the GoTG Starlord homage.

I think there are many huge missed opportunities in TLJ.

Hux could have had dialogue and scenes on the Bridge which better explained why he wanted this slow-speed sublight chase without sending TIEs and Destroyers to wipe out the remnant of the Resistance quickly. Toying with them in overconfidence in his twisted delight as revenge for Starkiller base and the loss of the dreadnaught could have served that purpose. Sadly there is no way to get that kind of explanation into a fan edit.

I would have preferred Akbar or Leia hyperspacing the Raddus into the Supremacy.

If I had one thing I absolutely was disappointed about - it was Phasma. Instead of dumping her in there for 5 minutes of pointlessness, why couldn’t Johnson have sent Phasma and a platoon of her troops to track Finn and Rose to Canto Bight and have their big showdown there? It would have expanded her role, maybe showed us why she is a badass. If the FO was taking over the galaxy, having local cops lecture Phasma about jusridiction only to be put down by her troops would have shown the ruthlessness by which they operate. I would have settled for the herd of the fathier/horse creatures stampede Phasma and her troops right when they catch and are ready to execute Finn for treason, rather than have that silly stampede through the casino. I’d be cool with Phasma ending up with hoof dents in her armor as Finn and Rose escape.

Also it makes no sense to have Maz in this at all. If Rose was from that place, why wouldn’t she know there are code crackers there at the casino? That would have made more sense than making a phone call to Maz while she was playing Battlefront II. Cutting her out of a fan edit is a no-brainer, except how do you explain why Finn and Rose go there?

My BIGGETS WISH FOR A FAN EDIT for those who have Adywan-ish talent:

A ten second addition via clever animation added to the showdown between Luke and the First Order.

After all the Walkers fire on Luke, and he emerges to brush his shoulder, the shot of Luke from the rear where he is almost in silouhette - with the Walkers towering in front of him - have Luke raise his left hand towards the Walkers, close his fist and bring his arm down to his side and have every single one of those Walkers brought down to their knees and then down to the ground.

Such a sequence would go a great ways towards better helping to explain why he had expended himself to the point of doing an Obi-Wan/Yoda vanishing act. And if that was actually done in the movie - I would have peed myself. I would be watching the Empire sequence of Luke being unable to lift his X-wing out of the swamp at Dagobah with whole new eyes, knowing what he would eventually become powerful enough to do at the end.

Just my .02 and fan edit wish-list for the talented here on the board.

TiiN said:

In contrast to ANH and TESB the deleted scenes from ROTJ has many potential to be reediting into the movie. I agree with you. Especially:

• Luke building this light saber
• Bunker rush (nice action, see the link)
• Emperor is commanding to destory the moon (more dramatic, more evil)

The difficult is to restore these blu ray material that it is matching to the rest of the movies (color, sound, scratches, effects). I think this is a lot of work. But when Adywan can handle this, this would be an amazin change.

I hope Adywan will try 😃

I’m not savvy on seeing Luke build his lightsaber. It takes away from the dramatic moment we all felt in 1983 when R2 launched it to him on the skiff. THAT was a terrific reveal. We do not need to see it to serve the storyline that Luke built a new one.

Also having Palpatine order Jerjerrod to destroy the Endor moon takes away from the Emperor’s own Achille’s heel that Luke himself states; his overconfidence in his own ‘legion of my best troops’. There would be no need for a failsafe should the rebels disable the shield generator, which Emp himself gave the Rebellion the coordinates of.

Cutting back and forth between Jerjerrod’s dilemma of wiping out the moon diminishes Luke’s tension with Vader. Truly Emp’s overconfidence WAS his weakness, and I think expanding the ground battle to showcase the overwhelming odds the rebels faced is good enough tension without sacrificing the main point of the storyline to yet another plot point that only serves to add another level of tension where it is not needed.

fishmanlee said:

My suggestion: make the Emperor’s shuttle unique, paint it red, or black, with the Imperial logo on the side or something.

Why would the Emperor paint a target on himself? Palatine is not as vain and ego-centric as Krennic or others are. He hid himself in plain sight and donned the black plain robes once he had secured the Galaxy for himself.

But - if Ady like the idea of making something new and special for Emp - I’m not opposed, but do not see the necessity for it.

Depends on whether or not the new camouflage trooper would have been advantageous in the merchandizing revenue department. I assume the tooling costs to repaint Stormtroopers mitigated the need to do anything more than create scout troopers.

I would think that augmenting the Endor battle with some new footage shot of Rebels taking out Imperial troops and the Ewok traps happening in tandem (because the Imps would be ignoring the Ewoks to focus on the Rebels), would make the battle a bit more ‘realistic’. The tide would turn due to Imps ignoring the natives rather than the impression that Ewok primitivism beats out their technology.

This of course would require whole new action sequences shot rather than background supplemental elements as the first two Revisited chapters. All the action in the Endor ground battle happens around the main characters, except the sequences of Ewoks diminishing the Imps. Taking that cue and in that segment of sequences, I do not see why some creative rebels versus Stormtrooper and officer action is not able to be choreographed and shot.

Anyone remember the fan film trailer for "Tyderium’? I think they even shot huge ground battle sequences in a forest for their fan film. With the right storyboarded sequences and a good stateside second unit director - anything is possible. Could even show a squad of rebel commandos going up against whatever Elite forces Emp has “waiting for them”. Maybe they were around that AT-AT that delivered Luke and maybe someone can diagram a sequence where the rebels are getting decimated and sacrifice themselves to take out that Walker and the landing platform. Could be a spectacular sequence if done right.

NeverarGreat said:

Chewie’s introduction in the cell is one of the few changes I’d really like to see in even a ‘soft’ fanedit like this. It’s basically a plot hole that Chewie isn’t captured, since 3PO says ‘Lando Calrissian and poor Chewbacca never returned from this awful place’.

To make it work…

To make it “work” all Ady has to do is remove the audio “and poor Chewbacca” so Threepio says ‘Lando Calrissian never returned from this awful place’ and wala! … no more plot hole.

trimboNZ said:

For what it’s worth:

After re-watching the movie recently, here’s my own wish-list of changes (with hopefully most of the points already covered in this thread omitted). Apologies for the length and for any repitition.

TATOOINE
Undo pointless inconsistent Blu-Ray changes such as the door to Jabbas palace being much larger on the outside, but still the same size inside.

Fix the Luke hologram to match the rest of the saga (desaturate, blue tint, add scanlines).

Have the Gamorrean guard strike the tentacled beast in the cage, rather than miss it with a dull thud.

When Jabba knocks Threepio down make Jabba actually strike him rather than Threepio apparently doing a twirl and falling over for no reason.

Have Luke somehow make use of his lightsaber during the battle, rather than just swinging it like a nerf bat.

Even if the lead up is done in a less silly way, still have Boba Fett end up inside the Sarlacc.

Remove the Sarlacc burp gag. One per movie is enough.

Have the chain dig more deeply into Jabba’s throat when Leia’s pulling it.

Don’t re-instate the sandstorm. The current pacing works well at that point.

DAGOBAH
Keep Luke’s visit to Yoda after Tatooine rather than before it. Luke needs a reason for being away so long - his friends.

Have Yoda say “Luke” less often.

ENDOR
Don’t have the scout’s speeder turn corners while he is looking backwards.

Fix or replace the speeder POV shots where the forest can be seen running out, as the footage approaches a clearing.

Keep the scene with Leia and Wicket. This is likely the first instance where an Ewok has been shown kindness by a hitherto mysterious and cruel human race, and a key to getting the Ewoks’ cooperation (even if they still needed a golden man to levitate).

Translate the lines “Yes that’s wise” and “Nice and short” into Ewok-ese.

I think the dialogue in the “I’m sorry”, “Hold me” exchange is redundant and the scene works better without it.

Keep the Ewok traps for the AT-ST’s, but have them trigger before Chewie hijacks one. Currently it looks like the Ewoks could be trapping Chewie.

Fix the terrible effect of the shot AT-ST that, after exploding quite well, quickly cross-fades to a static model of just the legs.

Maybe a little hard to fix, but if possible remove Han’s inappropriate grab when Leia is shot.

DEATH STAR
Make the Death Star bridge bigger, with more consoles and possibly a corridor. Somehow it just feels small, possibly due to lighting.

Fix the blue button pressed by the Imperial operator when Vader’s shuttle is granted passage, which is clearly just a painted square. Have it react somehow by being depressed or lighting up.

Enhance the display off to the side in the throne room, which has pictures on it early in the film but later is blank.

When the first capital ship is hit by the Death Star laser, have the nearby ships react in some way, being tossed by the shockwave or at least taking some damage.

Add more sparks to Vader’s suit as he’s carrying Palpatine to show his suit is now useless, maybe even blow out the chestplate.

Make Palpatine fall a bit further before exploding, making it more apparent he hit the bottom.

Straighten Vader’s bent wrist when he’s leaning over looking down into the shaft.

As the Death Star explodes, make the transition from space POV to Endor POV better somehow. Currently it’s a bit of a letdown when the music hits the high note there isn’t really a visual spectacle to match it.

I concur with almost everything in this list, with the minor exception of Leia asking Han to “Hold Me”. I think it gives weight to the fact that something big just happened, because usually when Han gets upset Leia would normally snark back - ( a departure of character for both of them as they are fulfilling character arcs of change that make them endearing to us), but instead just says “hold me”. I like that Han is a bit taken aback but falls into her pretty deep as the scene ends.

The explosion of DSII in the new Battlefront Cinematic trailer looked pretty good. Not sure if something like that can be replicated from the different POV from both Space and the ground.

ray_afraid said:

Jani-wan said:

doubleofive said:

NeverarGreat said:

doubleofive said:

.Mac. said:

I am, however, very much in favor of seeing a string of thousands of various cargo/construction crafts moving between the Death Star and the moon, which can include the Zeta-class; for there it makes sense and I hope we see it.

I was thinking of this too, but does the current dialog on the Star Destroyer allow for Tydirium to just be one of hundreds they’ve seen today? And would they all have to pass right over the Destroyer and “fly casual”?

It would be cool to see dozens of shuttles milling about the Death Star, but since the moon only contains the shield generator and this is operational, there shouldn’t be many craft traveling that way. So perhaps Tydirium is in a line of shuttles headed for the Death Star but breaks away for the moon, taking it across the path of the destroyer.

“Where is that shuttle going?” Could work!

But this would eliminate a very important piece of information, that Vader can feel Luke’s presence, and that he realizes that the Emperor was right, and his son came to him.
If he thinks this is just a rebel shuttle they might just shoot it down. I see no reason why Vader would let them land on Endor.

The only thing this changes is that Vader questions where the shuttle is going because it’s breaking from the normal route. It doesn’t alter the fact that Vader then senses Luke.
And they don’t think it’s a Rebel shuttle, it’s an Imperial cargo ship and the older clearance code they have “still checks out”. None of that is changed.

Agreed. Breaking from a line of traffic destined for the Death Star to make it’s way toward the forest moon would garner Vader’s attention - especially if it is implied by the existing dialogue that he can sense Luke’s presence. Having Piett ask what their cargo and destination is would comport with Vader’s query.