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#1066522
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STAR WARS: REBELS - New animated series
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I , too, am disappointed this season is it. This has been a great bridge between everything Star Wars prior to 2015. It was always great to have a chance at seeing classic characters pop up each week. I’m not done with this era in the Star Wars universe yet, but I guess this and the Solo film will close the book for awhile.

Anyways, one thought I had was what if Hera is telling this story to someone as she is dropping off a very important child who has lost it’s parents, two of her longtime friends.

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#1064157
Topic
Using Star Wars quotes only...
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“She may not look like much, but she’s got it where it counts, kid. I’ve added some special modifications myself. But we’re a little rushed, so if you’ll just get onboard…”

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#1064112
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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - FanEdit Ideas <strong><em>SPOILERS</em></strong>
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darthrush said:

Good idea overall!

Things I like about your idea:

-first scene is reveal of Death Star. THAT is quite the way to start the movie and I dig it.
-Making the first act shorter and more straightforward is easily the main positive of this editing strategy.

Possible problems with the idea:

-It would be pretty hard to effectively transition from the crawl and the starry background to the Death Star reveal without it feeling jarring. I suspect that some vfx work would need to be done.
-The feeling of hopping planets might still remain and it could be even more confusing since there would be no location subtitles (or would there?)

Overall, Id love to discuss and figure out a way to make this idea happen 😃

The Tie cuts across the screen to reveal the DS. Perhaps pan down to blank starfield, pause and then have it roar across.

To avoid the confusion, perhaps rewrite crawl to point out that Saw is stationed on Jedha.

One big tool fan editors are going to need are clean planet shots without titles. You could reuse Yavin from ANH and mask out the Falcon but it might stand out.

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#1064025
Topic
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - FanEdit Ideas <strong><em>SPOILERS</em></strong>
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After having watched the Blu-Ray a few times this week, I think a solid edit of the first act should be re-ordered and cut down to:
-LFL/Long Time Ago…

–===Crawl===–
ROGUE ONE
Terror! The Galactic Empire’s grip on the galaxy has never been tighter. Those who stand opposed to their tyranny, the Rebel Alliance, have learned the Empire has developed a new SUPER WEAPON under the guidance of scientist Galen Erso.

In a race against time, the Rebellion has sent their best spy to find the scientist’s lost daughter, Jyn Erso, in hopes she can provide them with information on his work.

Following the murder of her mother by DIRECTOR KRENNIC, the young Erso was raised by the the extremist Saw Guerrera. The Rebellion must convince Guerrera to help reunite Jyn with her father as the information he has may be their LAST HOPE…

-Starfield faded to Tie-Fighter streaking across screen with Tarkin/Krennic/Death Star cone scene
-Wipe into shot of Saw’s robotic foot and the scene of Bodhi being brought before Saw
-Wipe into Wobani prison camp and Erso being rescued
-Wipe Jyn on Yavin
-Wipe into Bodhi having his mind probed
-Replace Coruscant dream sequence with one that features Jyn running while Krennic’s shuttle flies overhead, her hugging her father, her mother giving her the crystal, her mother being murdered with Jyn waking up on her way to Jedha as Galen says '…I do it for you, Stardust…"

I struggle with removing Cassian’s scene in which he learns about the Death Star and then murders one of Saw’s men but I think that all the information we gain from that scene (aside from his willingness to murder anyone) is learned in the briefing room on Yavin. It also cuts down on the planet hopping. If you were going to re-insert it, I would make it the second scene between Tarkin and Bodhi being brought before Saw.

Thoughts?

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#1063770
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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However, if you have Vader show him the vision, you are changing the character of Vader without knowing that is the direction they are taking him in future films. Anakin was redeemed in RotJ. Having him be evil from beyond the grave seems to undo that.

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#1063767
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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LuckyGungan2001 said:

SilverWook said:

Cool reflections in the Tantive’s cockpit window I didn’t notice before.

Guess Bail’s ship in ROTS was a different model year. 😉

In the EU it was retconned into being the Tantive III, which makes sense.

This would make a good fanedit fix. Replace the video with audio message only. Mask the correct controls over the ROTS one.

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#1063595
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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NeverarGreat said:

Hardcore Legend said:

One thing that bothers me is that a chunk of the map is all that is missing. It would be better, originally, if the map were complete but the part BB8 is before someone Erased the planet from the archives. Much like Kalas recently did on Rebels.

If I had a map of Maryland but a chunk in the middle were missing, it would be a lot easier to figure out where someone is.

I suppose the answer to that would be that even a small section of a galaxy is still hundreds if not thousands of stars. Also, even if the Resistance knew exactly where Luke was in the missing section, without the map and his route it would be far too dangerous to try and chart a course through what is essentially uncharted space. As Han said, ‘Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova, and that would end your trip real quick’.

Now a bigger question is whether the First Order had the full charted map, or if this was a section mysteriously kept blank by the Empire. Perhaps they just never got around to charting it? The questions compound.

Right, my point is that unless the Empire/First Order was missing that piece of charted space, they would have a starting off point to find Luke. The ‘jigsaw’ narrows it down considerably from the entire galaxy.

Not only that, but I have to imagine that the Empire wasn’t the only people with a chart of that section of space.

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#1063554
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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One thing that bothers me is that a chunk of the map is all that is missing. It would be better, originally, if the map were complete but the part BB8 is before aomeone Erased the planet from the archives. Much like Kalas recently did on Rebels.

If I had a map of Maryland but a chunk in the middle were missing, it would be a lot easier to figure out where someone is.

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#1062902
Topic
General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
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Lord Haseo said:

Hardcore Legend said:
He failed at every task he was given in the film

So did Vader in STAR WARS…

No. Vader’s plan to find the hidden Rebel base worked.

Vader ‘killed’ Ben after a fair duel between the two. Ren murdered his unarmed father after tricking him into standing really close to him and stabbing him in the heart.

Ben…let himself be killed though…Why exactly are you using this in an argument?

Also Kylo killing his father in that manner is beyond sadistic. We never seen Vader do anything that cruel and he’s a fully formed villain.

So how does that make you want to root for Kylo Ren? Two old warriors, an apprentice and a master battled and one in the end ‘died’. Vader being on the opposite side of the coin as Obi-Wan makes him evil but cool. Do a lot of people find unarmed patricide in cold blood ‘cool’?

I don’t think he is a poorly written character, I’m just confused about what appeal he has to anyone other than his helmet.

Potential

Potential for what, though? Redemption? No thanks. To become even more evil so that he can one day be destroyed by a set of heroes? Ok. But it doesn’t seem like something to ‘root’ for, which is how this whole line of conversation started.

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#1062525
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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
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Ryan-SWI said:

Hardcore Legend said:

Wait, there are fans who are rooting for Kylo Ren?

Well Kylo was actually an interesting character, I’d much rather root for someone I care about.

Root for him to hurt the main ‘good guy’ in the film? Unlike Vader who was a ‘cool’ bad guy, there are no redeeming qualities for Ren (in my opinion). He works as the foe to Rey but I don’t understand any support for him to be victorious.

Vader ‘killed’ Ben after a fair duel between the two. Ren murdered his unarmed father after tricking him into standing really close to him and stabbing him in the heart. He failed at every task he was given in the film and was defeated by a ‘novice’ Force user.
I don’t think he is a poorly written character, I’m just confused about what appeal he has to anyone other than his helmet.

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#1061166
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Mocata said:

Tobar said:
Pretty simple really.

I’m still fuzzy on the whole good bad thing Egon.

Magic crystals are fantasy which is good, but if they’re in Star Wars it becomes sci-fi which is bad, but this is about wizards which are good, but magic crystals make magic laser beams and swords work so that’s bad, even though they don’t obey the laws of physics which is fantasy, so this is good? Although it’s just an extension of mystical amulets? And in the end this is kind of irrelevant to anything in the narrative anyway? It’s almost like this is just some kind of minor detail that allows for another series of banal complaints over things that don’t really matter or determine movie quality on the whole.

Can I go now?

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#1061108
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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Hayden is just there to announce he and Ewan will be staring in the standalone Obi-Wan film set between II and III, obviously.

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#1059313
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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Alderaan said:

SwissArmyTin said:

Sooooo Frink pointing out hypocrisy is harassment, but slinging threats of moderation action and banning him isn’t?

…ok

Alderaan said:

Consider this–especially that last sentence–your friendly warning.

Instead he did the typical Frink thing, which was try and get in the last word, and threaten me instead.

No, he didn’t.

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#1058441
Topic
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - FanEdit Ideas <strong><em>SPOILERS</em></strong>
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ForceGhostRecon said:

I’ve taken out Tatooine… works much better now. Vader also now says “Send a detachment to retrieve them.” instead of “Send a detachment DOWN to retrieve them.”

https://vimeo.com/209742146

(still needs to be fine-tuned, but gets the idea across)

I like a lot of what you’ve done. I think you could remove the droids crossing the hall and have Vader entering sooner.

I also think you can still show Tantive escaping and being chased by the Star Destroyer. Vader is just already on board.

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#1058299
Topic
Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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The recent articles about K2SO’s death and the Vader featurette show that there were alternate scenes filmed, despite the claims that no real deleted scenes existed to be put on.

Also, it is my understanding that the Vader scene in the hallway was added on very late in the production and that a different actor had to be called in to film it? Well, I just read another article that said Vader’s final scene in one of the late cuts was to kill Krennic for his failures. Was this filmed?

Basically, I want ALL THE VADER FOOTAGE! ALL OF IT!

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#1058298
Topic
What anthology/spinoff film would you like to see?
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I would like to see McGregor return as Obi-Wan but I just don’t see how that film (or films since there have been rumors of a trilogy) would work. It would be very difficult to build a film around a character can’t be recognized or known by anyone for continuity sake. A film with Obi-Wan not dressed as a Jedi would just look weird.

The one plot point that could have worked was a confrontation between he and Maul in which Maul is living ‘outside’ the detection of the Empire as well but they just used that plot on Rebels. They could set the film during the tail-end of the Clone Wars/immediately post ROTS but I don’t know if with the current OT nostalgia that is going on that they’d want to do that. I think they’d much rather bring Ewan closer to the OT era.

Anyways, like I said…I’d love for one of the next spin-offs to be an Ewan/Obi-Wan film but I just don’t know what story could support a 2 hour film.

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#1058271
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Call me ignorant, but what does it actually mean to re-render CG? I assumed it was ‘drawn’ at whatever resolution and that was it.

The ‘skin’ you build over the ‘frame’ of the models using higher resolution graphics, I would imagine.

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#1058240
Topic
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - FanEdit Ideas <strong><em>SPOILERS</em></strong>
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I say all of this without having seen the film in 3 months but:

Those that said to start the film with the Death Star completion are brilliant. That’s the ominous, space visual that ‘feels’ like Star Wars. I still think the opening scenes establishing Jyn, her father and Saw aren’t needed. That is what the crawl is for. I don’t need to see the shot of Obi-Wan dropping Luke off at the Lars Homestead to make ANH work.

If you want to include any of that scene, use it the same way it was done with Anakin’s foreshadowing in EPIII. Have small snippets of blurred dream effect(her mother giving her the necklace, her mother being shot by Krennic, Jyn screaming) and then have Jyn wakeup with the fading sound of her father calling her ‘Stardust’.

I would put a lot of the exposition of the Erso story that is in the first act in the crawl, as well.
----Crawl----
ROGUE ONE

A galaxy in terror! The GALACTIC EMPIRE’s grip
on the galaxy has never been tighter. Those who
stand opposed to their tyranny, the REBEL ALLIANCE,
have learned the EMPIRE has developed a new super weapon
under the guidance of scientist GALEN ERSO.

In a race against time, the REBELLION must find ERSO’s
lost daughter in hopes she has information on his work.
Following the murder of her mother by DIRECTOR KRENNIC,
the young ERSO was raised by the extremist SAW GUERRERA.

The REBELLION has sent their best spy to track her down
to reunite her with GUERRERA and her father as she may
be their LAST HOPE…

Keep in mind that we don’t see Luke in ANH until after Leia has been established (with Vader) and the droids have been on their voyage. I would remove all planet title cards and then place things in this order (as best I can remember now):

Crawl
Pan into shot of Death Star completion
Initial scene with Tarkin/Krennic
Cassian and the spy scene
Bodhi surrendering to Saw’s men
Jyn’s dream (short) with her waking up in prison
Film continues on pretty much as originally filmed

That should clean up the pacing and make the first act feel more traditional Star Wars.

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#1057334
Topic
STAR WARS: REBELS - New animated series
Time

Obi Wan clearly states that the Holicrons weren’t doing what you say they were, Maul was manipulating the to do that. He had been manipulating Ezra for one reason this entire time: find Kenobi.

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#1057084
Topic
STAR WARS: REBELS - New animated series
Time

I do think this was a great episode that didn’t step all over ANH.

I also hope all those deleted scenes they spoke about are put on the Blu-Ray. I’d love to see this as an hour long episode, even if it is just Ezra.

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#1056410
Topic
Revenge of the Sith (The New Canon Cut)
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NFBisms said:

The sunset meeting between the loyalists and Palpatine is in, and is good for tying up that barely subplot, as well as introducing tension between Anakin and Padme. Palpatine doesn’t tell Anakin how he feels at the end of the scene, though: “There’s much conflict in you” is gone. Better left unsaid, and have Palpatine be more subtle. Anakin is an adult, he feels his own emotions, thank you.

Speaking of this scene, I’ve noticed over the years that people forget to re-score this scene since it was missing any score until the Loyalist leave the room. I did a quick re-score and edit on it that uses the Emperor’s theme subtly and then coming in full effect when Padme questions Palpatine but I have nowhere to upload it to show you what I mean.

I like this scene after you cut out Palpatine trying to be ‘sly’ with Anakin about how to handle them. It is at a point where Palpatine and Anakin trust each other, making it appear as if Palpatine is confiding in him about his distrust of the senators works better and shows the shift is already in full effect.

Anyways, my point being…this being a deleted scene, it is often left with the very quiet background noise and the very loud rustling of people’s clothes and footsteps.

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