Does anyone besides masked Kylo and Palptine refer to Rey as a scavenger? I wonder how feasible it may be to remove that, as she seemed to move past that in the eyes of all the characters.
Okay, fair enough. Noble idea and mockup but maybe not.
Yeah, I hear you about the framing being off-style for the movie. It’s hard to imagine whether it would have felt off if we saw it in the theater, and part of why I like it is that it doesn’t feel overly manufactured. The audio replacement alone is nice, though, if nothing else.
Skenera, that shot looks good! I don’t think his cape matters, as I would want to crib that shot between two establishing shots anyway and he could easily have discarded it. It’s the snow that’s probably gonna kill it. Ash maybe, but snow might be too weird to accept.
Heres the song I used for the rescore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvSVjbP3Iss
Nice. If I ever get the chance that’s a very good idea for a track go try to use for almost the whole scene.
In the extended podrace intro, the farting animal is extended to wonderful effect. It’s a hell of a fart there.
I felt like the scene where the Resistance finds out Palpatine is alive was rushed, I tried adding some slower paced music to try and add some breathing room and make it feel more sinister and serious.
(Rough Test)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vss4cLS1os
What is the source of the added music? I’d be okay with not even hearing the Emperor’s Theme at all here, if something Williams can fit in to enhance their shock and dismay.
That’s how I felt too, smpearch1981. I don’t mind the scene being where it is, so it’s not a pressing thing. Just seeing if it goes better being first.
I think having any establishing shots of Mustafar’s landscape be place right before the main chunk of the scene would help. He leaves the helmet, and we see an establishing shot or two before the slaughter begins.
If the TFA teaser shot gets used, and it sounds like it may not be as feasible as it did, it should be couched between two establishing shots.
Just noticed that, like TFA:R, TROS features a planet destruction directly following Kylo having a conversation with Han and resolving himself in a direction. Just this time it doesn’t make us feel anything.
The part of my theater experience when I could have been heard pleading, “Oh, for God’s sake!”
Here’s the color-corrected alt take for “Rey Skywalker” from idir_hh (the alt shot is at about 20 seconds in).
https://vimeo.com/418315742
pw: faneditidir sent the 1080p version, which is cropped heavily, so if anyone has the 4K please let me know! Otherwise we’ll have to fake it by adding grain.
Hell to the god damned YES
At this point I’m just not for any solution that decouples the Vader helmet touching scene from Kylo forging his new helmet. I might be swayed if someone does a really great test clip though.
A very good thing to keep in mind. Well if it’s one or the other I think this wins out. In the theater I read Kylo as just… testing the Vader helmet to see if Palpy’s words were true.
lol, I really haven’t done any work or thinking you haven’t seen here. I’m a zombie at the helm.
I agree I’d certainly want to keep what Dominic has done for the vision. Perhaps he’ll like the idea of moving the helmet forward and adapt them. If it has to be one or the other, I’d rather use his vision.
I feel like Frodo being carried up the mountain by this point.
Yeah…
Aaark Bumpyyy Rrroose!
Hmmm…
Crawl
Pan down to establishing shot of TIEs flying over Mustafar
Cut to interior of Star Destroyer, as Vader’s helmet emerges and Kylo places his hand on it. Maybe Vader says something vaguely relevant or just the vision that was there originally. Kylo begins to walk off.
Color corrected TFA teaser shot of Kylo walking in the woods, crouching and lighting his saber.
A couple establishing shots of Mustafar, ideally with three TIEs somewhere in there
Main scene as Kylo slaughters people
The wayfinder says “Find me”
Yep, he asked and received.
Hey, in looking over the Anti-Cringe cut, I think it would be worth considering showing a brief ‘flash’ vision of Rey on the throne right as she backs away at the Rey Palpatine revelation in the hangar.
It’s a little off-norm for Star Wars but it might help that moment more explicitly tie into her existing fear of her inner darkness.
The solution in my head that’d work is you color correct both to match each other, and then in the wide shot of Kylo post battle you add some lava flow.
Ideally as well what’d be added to the clean RO shots would be the three TIE fighters we see in the opening shot.
Yes.
So is the ending sequence gonna be:
Base celebration
Chess scene
Altered Tatooine epilogue with new music, alternate “Rey Skywalker”, and Falcon hyperspace take off?
Yeah!
And poppasketti, that’s slick. Thanks, you and Chase.
Kewlfish, those look perfectly fine to me on my phone, anyway. I’m mildly concerned showing lava may not cohere with the slightly ‘healed’ Mustafar we see, but I can accept it as different geography. Could the environment (or sky?) be tweaked to be a step or two closer in feel to the scene with Kylo slaughtering people? I don’t think it’s a big problem but it sticks out as something to drill into.
Right, I was thinking about whether it’d be better saved for the end scene though. We would fade out from the base celebration, then cut to hyperspace. Since we already have the shot of the Falcon approaching the ice base and don’t necessarily need to see them exit hyperspace.
For the ending I imagine the alternate take with a corrected sky, with the music Dominic suggested, and poppasketti’s Falcon takeoff.
Chess scene beforehand most likely.
Maybe Klaud can be stuck into the now first shot of Finn?
And I’m not sure if the hyperspace shot would be better placed at the ice setting or used at the end.
Sorry, can’t type easily right now. And I haven’t really made any progress lately. Been trying to get ROTJ V1 out the door and have next to no time these days.
It had to be that way in order to exist in the first place. And it was an ‘official release or bust’ strategy. It just couldn’t have been any other way, frustrating as that may be.
They’re like the people who bring air horns to graduations.
I have! He’s supposed to be sending me the clip, and was happy to, but I might need to follow up by now.
The shot of Wedge splits up the two shots I’m planning to use for the battle cries, so I’m planning to select one instance of “For Skywalker” during the first shot, maybe mixed with other phrases people may send, then the second shot will have the rest. Some will be more prominent than others in the mix. They’ll all be in the center channel, but I hope to include everyone who send me something, even if it’s hardly audible.
And to sneak in “I’m naked! Heehawhahaww” from Thumb Wars.
Sounds like you’ll fit right in here, then.
For me, IX is gonna be more community driven than ever, and that’s saying something. I really don’t care for the movie, but hey, I’ve gotta finish the saga. This ones gonna be more of a ‘Hal9000 presents an OT.com production.’
The more the merrier. We tend to share stuff and have bonded lately over our shared trauma.
Yes, I think that list is correct, Chase. A mental sweep, severely underpowered as it may be right now, doesn’t remind me of anything else outstanding. Thanks for compiling those.
To be clear: the squeaky wheel scene has finished audio, but would need video cleanup and puppetry removal to be usable. Keeping this sequence isn’t super important, but it’d be nice to slow the hell down for a second or two.
If the chess scene is moved, any FX shots to remove Klaud from the opening would be welcome. But, he can stay if needed. He’ll just be some weirdo in the doorway and get to appear in the end celebration.
And yes, Kef Bir has been made into Endor already, so the Star Destroyer over Endor would need to be made into Coruscant (or at least something else).
I probably will stick with “Rey Skywalker,” but I love idir_hh’s recent alternate version of it. The sky would just need to be made to match the film footage.
And yes, please send me more civilian fleet audio! Just record anything to serve as a ship check-in like “This is the Stale Poptart, reporting in” or “Purple Monkey Dishwasher standing by.” Record any sort of comm chatter or battle cries you like, and a delivery of “For Skywalker!” Best part is that, since it’s all going to be over comm, it’s okay if the audio quality is absolute shit!
Oooooh. Is that where dead Jedi go?
I dunno, I don’t think it’d have a place in an actual edit for me.