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Hal 9000

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#1141400
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Cool, I’m glad to hear this is being well received. I’m sure the time factor is important as well, giving it a rest before revisiting the film again. But, it’s a very elegant, simple change that really helps.

When I saw TFA a handful of times in theater, I would enjoy it very much up until the first Snoke scene. Then, I cringed at the Starkiller stuff getting started, but then we’d jump back to the Luke map plot. That went on until Hux blew up the Republic, which just felt off to me from the first viewing. Then it’s back to the Luke map plot again.

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#1141140
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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RogueLeader said:

I also noticed something else.
At 1:49:11 in the edit, during the shot of Chewbacca roaring right before he shoots Kylo Ren, there seems to be a color grade change in the middle of the shot. Definitely need someone to double check to make sure I’m just not seeing things.

Thank you! Geez Louise… Fixed that.

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#1141138
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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^ And as I believe has been requested already, bringing the music down very slightly around Han’s line, “Where’d you get that,” and Snoke’s, “Prepare the weapon” would be helpful, too.

In other news, Lord_Phillock, the guy behind the tremendous LOTR audio soundscape project, will be submitting options for the “Weapon fully recharged” line.

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#1140953
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Episode VIII Discussion <em>NON SPOILER THREAD</em>
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^ I haven’t seen any non-Star Wars films in the theater for at least a few years, in all seriousness. The earliest showing Friday was the only one I could do while still preserving my work schedule for the day. 😃

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#1140941
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Episode VIII Discussion <em>NON SPOILER THREAD</em>
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Got my ticket for 9:15 Friday morning. I’d like to drink some coffee (which is unusual for me) ahead of time, in order to build up a sense of stress and panic. But I won’t have any companions with me to save my seat when I try to visit the bathroom during trailers. Maybe I’ll refrain from liquid intake altogether that morning, and bring a dark chocolate bar.

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#1140528
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Ooooo, nice. I like that.
Having them jump to hyperspace alleviates some of the unlikely coincidence factor, as Han’s “scanners” picked up on this and they moved to intercept, rather than seemingly hanging out nearby. In space.

I hope the rest of the sequel trilogy ties the Falcon’s and Rey’s presence on Jakku together, if indeed Kylo Ren has a prior connection to her. (“What girl?!”)

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#1140504
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Here’s my working list for what’s needed for V2.1. Let me know if I have missed anything. (I might not recall tiny things that I’ve already done and therefore removed from this list.)

For V2.1

THE LAST JEDI must have been released and seen by us - [for the purpose of vetting the edit’s continuity]

Kylo Ren’s helmet appearing and vanishing during the second Snoke scene - [Pie in the sky]

Leia and the Resistance deleted scene recolored - [from NeverarGreat; he needs it from Ridley first]

Leia commenting on not hearing from the Republic during Resistance briefing - [Omitted, sans unforeseen breakthrough]

Retimed time-altered shots during Starkiller firing and destruction sequences - [from Ridley; the former already implemented]

Redub tech guy’s line to Hux to say something like, “Weapon fully reprimed in 30 seconds” - [Not essential, depends on if a submission up to snuff turns up]

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#1140500
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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^ Ah, well at least now we know why though. Shouldn’t be a problem to recreate what you’ve done with that sequence.

Ridley, the 3PO shot looks great, as does the fixed slow shots from Kylo to the technicians. I wonder, though, if you could send me the 3PO leg shot without artificial black widescreen bars applied? It appears to be zoomed slightly, and to have had these bars put on. The problem is that they are slightly farther into the frame than the rest of my timeline. If you can send me the shot, zoomed though it may be, I can apply the widescreen matte on my own and have it match perfectly.
But, yeah… pretty awesome (and fast!) reverse alchemy. 😉

EDIT: The 3PO leg foley sounds much better now that I can move it up by a second or two. Now, it sounds like he’s walking off and then BB8 decides to give up and follow.

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#1140429
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Awesome! 😃
I’ll move the foley up a second or two, since we won’t be staring at his motionless leg.

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#1140414
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Hmmm. It’s far from necessary, to my mind, but its not a bad idea. Let me see how it looks with a zoom applied.

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#1140358
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The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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NeverarGreat said:

The galaxy is in peril.
Far from the worlds
of the New Republic,
a sinister FIRST ORDER
is building a weapon that
can devour an entire star.

Haunted by visions of
this devastating weapon,
the disgraced General
Leia Organa mobilizes
a covert Resistance in
an attempt to stave off
this impending disaster.

While on a daring mission,
her most trusted pilot has
found a clue to the location
of Leia’s long-lost brother,
the last of the Jedi Knights
and their only hope against
the evil First Order…

I like this one a lot better. I suggest changing it to “entire stars” at the end of the first paragraph. Also changing “weapon” to “power” & “stave off” back to “forestall” or even “thwart.” “Disaster” implies Leia foreknows a specific event, perhaps reword to “threat” or something.
Third paragraph could begin with, “On a daring mission to a distant world…”

EDIT: Posting whole crawl for effect:

The galaxy is in peril.
Far from the worlds
of the New Republic,
a sinister FIRST ORDER
is building a weapon that
can devour entire stars.

Haunted by visions of
this devastating power,
the disgraced General
Leia Organa mobilizes
a covert Resistance in
an attempt to forestall
this impending doom.

On a daring mission to a
distant world, her most trusted
pilot has found a clue to the
location of Leia’s long-lost
brother, the last of the Jedi
Knights and their only hope
against the evil First Order…

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#1140343
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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ziggyonice said:

Hal 9000 said:

As we look to Ridley retiming additional shots that had to be slowed down using his technological alchemy, we should take a look at the Starkiller explosion scene. Any shots between, “It is time to complete his training” and the shot of the Falcon and X-wings where they formerly jumped to lightspeed are potentially slowed down very slightly. NeverarGreat carefully matched the necessary length of the music track.

Personally, I would prefer having the shots be slowed over not having them at all. Seeing the pilots’ reactions to Starkiller base firing, seeing the people in the Resistance control room, etc. is all critical to the emotion in the scene. For the last part, when the Falcon flies away, I had no issue with that whatsoever. I would rather have the slowness than not have the scenes.

Absolutely. I was not suggesting removing any of the shots, just that they be given the Ridley alchemy treatment as well as the SKB firing scene.

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#1140326
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Yeah, it’s weird to say, “There’s no way that will happen,” and then have it happen abruptly at the end, especially when that is all that was needed to resolve the macguffin.
Well, the light coming on is at least connecting Threepio’s weird line to the actual thing that happens at the end. That’s the idea anyway, an elegant, simple solution that does not involve much modification of the original film.

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#1140324
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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MalàStrana said:

NeverarGreat said:

Nice.

I haven’t updated that scene yet, so the latest version is still on the Starlight page:
https://mega.nz/#!3EFEVTLL!nVZb6XmsPlFFqiUWpKrw4KQC5ZmfaYKdkr5VP4WVeMc

If anyone has suggestions on how it could be made acceptable, I’m all ears 😃

I’m totally OK with this. Hope it will make it into v2.1 😃

It’s a great mockup, but it doesn’t feel genuine to me. Seems like it carries a bit of ‘liability’ for the payoff of not having heard from the Republic. Leia sends her envoy to them a few scenes ago to speak to them in person. Threepio’s line seems to only add confusion. I think this is probably better omitted, though I like the idea in principle, save for Threepio’s line.

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#1140310
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Kexikus said:

One more suggestion: What about removing 3POs line “It is very doubtful that R2 has the map in his backup data?” I never liked that line considering that R2 in fact has the map in his backup data. And with R2 starting to wake up after BB-8 talked to him, I don’t think this line is needed at all.

You’ve just described V1 and the reasoning behind it. What’s different now is that R2 begins indexing his hard drive, prompted by this conversation.

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#1140260
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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As we look to Ridley retiming additional shots that had to be slowed down using his technological alchemy, we should take a look at the Starkiller explosion scene. Any shots between, “It is time to complete his training” and the shot of the Falcon and X-wings where they formerly jumped to lightspeed are potentially slowed down very slightly. NeverarGreat carefully matched the necessary length of the music track.

EDIT: I posted this comment before seeing ChainsawAsh’s. Thanks for the feedback, it’s very nice to hear that this is being enjoyed. I’m real proud of the final product, and really will be once we get it produced. 😉
Let us know what your family thinks of it. Especially if there are any strong fans of TFA whom are very familiar with it.

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