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#1107049
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How to use video from one .mkv with audio from another .mkv? Also subtitles from another .mkv.
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Thanks, the info is muchly appreciate!

It looks like the editing to make that particular movie line up with another audio track would be very subtle. It’s not a different framerate or officially different cut of the movie, it just may be that the more recent blu-ray release for whatever reason used a print where say a couple seconds are added overall via just a few less than a second differences adding up, maybe in scene transitions etc.

That’s just hypothesizing though. My hats are off to people who add audio tracks like all the one available in the Star Wars releases on here, I can only imagine the work that goes into making sure they’re all properly synced up.

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#1099416
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How to use video from one .mkv with audio from another .mkv? Also subtitles from another .mkv.
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So I’d like to see the video of one version of a movie while hearing the audio of another version of a movie. I’ve never made a video file other than ripping a DVD or two years ago, but if I already have several versions of a movie in mkv format, is there a way to combine elements of these mkv’s into a new version? If so, how do I do that?

And optionally another question, how to get the subtitles from one mkv file and extract them to put into another mkv file.

For the record the movie I’m talking about is The Killer (1989 John Woo), which I own a DVD and blu-ray of. They messed with the audio on my preferred version of the blu-ray video (an HK one in an mkv file mentioned), so I want to play it with the original audio (in an mkv of the criterion DVD) for example. And if possible I’d also like to use the Criterion one’s subtitles.

And to add to the wackiness, I’d have to add a second or two of silence to the beginning of one of the preferred audio tracks to time them up properly I think. Or any other method of having it start playing at the exact moment it should by comparing the two.

Short version, I’m looking to watch a blu-ray mkv I have of a fav movie while listening to the DVD audio of this movie, and optionally using the subtitles from that DVD version as well, but that is less important than the audio thing. I guess that part would involve reading up on how to rip mkv’s subtitles to an .srt or something which is probably easier than the audio/video stuff I’m looking to do. Thanks folks!

I could just pop in the old DVD I have of this movie, but as we know on here, that would be too simple. 😄

Also for the audio syncing to another video thing, another simple solution could be to figure out a way to start two different instances of a video player at the same moment, in MPC-HC64 for example. I’d have to put one a second or two in, pause, then via some method get them both to resume playing at the same moment. I don’t currently know of what that method is though.

edit: I just watched the movie via two media players, had to pause and mess around with them a bit to re-sync the audio on occasion, so there must be a few seconds of difference between the two versions here and there maybe a second at the end of a scene in one version etc. But I’ll leave this topic up just for curiosity and because it would be cool to know how to do this stuff for all purpose stuff, if not this film in particular.

Great film, recommend everybody check it out by the way! If you’re a fan of stylish hard hitting emotional action/drama.

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#889089
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
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joshuar said:

Hey, quick question. There’s a pretty abrupt cut right at 27:44. Does anyone know if that’s intended (part of the theatrical release), a bug with the release, or unrecognized (a problem on my end)?

When one of the sandpeople is handing a gun to another and it cuts to another shot? That was there before, in the laderdisc etc. Looks the same here, doesn’t seem unusual to me.

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#888730
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Star Wars Extended Editions?
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Revenge of the Sith is a very well paced movie, didn’t feel like any extraneous scenes were left in or anything. Just sayin’.

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#888606
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Episode VIII Discussion *SPOILER THREAD*
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I’m not taking what she said literally, but if I had to guess, maybe Han will have some voice used in mysterious visiony-flashback things etc. Since this one did that kind of thing instead of a full on flashback scene.

Very excited for the future of a long time ago in a galaxy far far away! I forsee some fun training scenes with Luke and Rey, and I really look forward to what hijinks Fin and the resistance will be up to as well. Plus of course, going deeper and darker places with Kylo.

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#888589
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Are the prequels neede for The Force Awakens?
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I like Revenge of the Sith, so I’d say if somebody is interested in Star Wars, might as well give that movie a try. But in general I don’t think you “need” to see it to appreciate Episode VII.

That said, what rock have people been living under to not have seen the Star Wars trilogy? 😄

As for a hypothetical order for somebody who has never seen Star Wars? I’d say marathon the original trilogy (preferably before they started messing with it, or the Despecialized version). And then if they’re hungry for more, throw on Revenge of the Sith for a one-off tale of weird darkness. And of course see The Force Awakens.

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#888547
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
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I’m not sure which versions I’ve been watching over the years, usually it’s just labeled as laserdisc edition. I posted a couple screen shot comparisons around here for example. I like the color of those because they look like your usual 70s/80s film would look. Where as some of the Despecialized version to me almost looks like Wizard of Oz or a colorized movie, very over-the-top saturation and whatnot that to me makes people look more like paintings at times.

But if that’s what it looked like in theaters, that’s what you’re going for. I would’ve guessed it looked more like Dawn of the Dead or something in theaters, or like your usual 70s film (not counting the green people 😄), as far as skin tone etc goes. But I know you’re going by film actual captures to compare.

I know these days they often mess with movies giving them a strong blue tint (or magenta), but I hadn’t heard that the old home video releases of Star Wars were considered to have color that was so off. I guess that’s just the look I prefer or am used to.

But personal taste on saturation/color aside, I’m not complaining or anything, Despecialized looks great, and it’s fun to see the movie in such high detail and clarity.

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#888512
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
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chyron8472 said:

Harmy, I just saw your FB post about ESB and ROTJ 2.0 already being better than SW 2.5, which still had issues.

What issues does SW 2.5 still have that warrants a 3.0?

The color could use improvements. For example you might notice sometimes from shot to shot Han Solo’s shirt varies a lot in how yellow it is etc.

Also, just curious what people’s thoughts on the laserdisc color is? I always assumed it was spot-on, though maybe a little less contrast and brightness than some like in HD stuff. For me at least, the color has never looked better than in the laserdisc version, contrast etc aside. It just looks the most natural.

This version is the best HD version by far though, and looks really good no doubt.

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#888207
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
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Just watched Despecialized for the first time (2.5), gotta say thanks! Loved it, a joy to see the movie in HD clarity. Which other than seeing the 97 version in theaters, I’ve only even seen on VHS or laserdisc version.

For some critique, I feel some shots the color isn’t quite 100% spot on. It looks like yellow is a bit overpowering in a lot of the movie, with stuff like Han Solo’s shirt popping, or skin leaning more yellow when it should lean more on the red side I think.

Here’s a comparison of Luke in Despecialized and an old laserdisc rip: http://imgur.com/a/tZV7t

Sometimes skin and hair etc to me looks a bit like a colorized movie in this version, if that makes sense. Maybe at times oversaturated, and maybe not quite the right hue. Also maybe more blue should be in the mix at times. That said, definitely better than the color choices of the official blu-ray, and this wasn’t in every shot or anything, just at times.

That’s my only constructive criticism though, really really impressive stuff. I didn’t notice any quality drops, all the effects shots looked great, terrific stuff all around, thanks again. And great sound too, I went with the 85 track. Much thanks!

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#888145
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THE FORCE AWAKENS (Episode VII) Discussion *SPOILER THREAD* See OP For Trailer/Teaser Links--Trailer is out!
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FrankT said:

I… can’t believe Han’s gone.

If it takes place a long time ago, technically everybody is gone. I think Blue Oyster Cult has a song about this… but I know what you mean. If you leave off on a positive note, you just don’t have to think about the mortality of these characters.

SilverWook said:

It’s going to take a lot to make Kylo Ren deserving of redemption in my eyes after what he’s done.

I doubt it will ever happen, but Chewie ought to be the one to kill him.

I’m thinking Kylo will be irredeemable. At least, that would make for a bold direction. But I’m excited to see where they go with all this.

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#888128
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The best audio, and differences between the many audio tracks available?
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CatBus said:

As for the inclusion of the mono mix lines, I also favor the original multichannel mixes because they don’t have them. The tractor beam line, for example, sounds like he’s off saying it in a broom closet instead of on the same set he says all his other lines. The line itself it fine, it just… doesn’t blend for me, even on the mono mix. Probably in the minority on that one, but this stuff is pretty subjective at some point.

If that topic linked is correct, the only mono line added to the 85 version is the tractor beam one I think? The blast doors one isn’t included for example.

And the track you prefer is technically a recreation, not an original theatrical track right? Not that this distinction matters too much, I just guess other than some changes it’s mostly the same as whichever laserdisc track was the base for it anyway? (edit: ah, I see there’s a topic about that track on the first page that answers my question there)

Definitely true that it’s subjective stuff, and the movie is enjoyable with any of these tracks.

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#888057
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The best audio, and differences between the many audio tracks available?
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SpilkaBilka said:

GroovyLord said:
While we’re talking, could you expand more on why you hate the 93 version? Just curious. Do any of the added effects stand out as particularly bad etc?

I can’t remember all of the differences, but the one that stands out the most to me is the sound of shattering glass as Luke/Han/Chewie destroy the sensors/cameras in the detention block. I hate that sound (also hate the sound of Lando destroying the core of the 2nd Death Star!).

Right on, interesting. Well allrighty, I’m going to go with the 85 laserdisc audio for this viewing. Looks like this version has this tractor beam line that I never got to hear with the 93 version over the years.

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#888029
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The best audio, and differences between the many audio tracks available?
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Thanks for the info. And that’s more out of curiosity anyway, I’m not enough of an audiophile to really notice anything like that myself. 320 kbps is plenty for me. Also it took me a bit but I’m starting to understand how that comparison page is laid out ha.

While we’re talking, could you expand more on why you hate the 93 version? Just curious. Do any of the added effects stand out as particularly bad etc?

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#888011
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The best audio, and differences between the many audio tracks available?
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Thanks for the info there. Just looking at the dialogue differences topic there is really confusing to me. I almost would need a pie chart showing which versions have which 😄. For example you mentioned the 85 version has stuff from both of the previous different theatrical mixes. But I’m not sure how to determine what lines exactly would be “missing” from this version for example, out of all the possible lines of dialogue. Ditto for comparing any other versions to eachother. Is this info laid out in a more comparative/less confusing way like that anywhere?

One other question, about these audio mixes from the laserdisc being lossless. On Harmy’s 2.5 release of ANH, both the 85 and 93 mixes are 320kbps ac3. Does that count as lossless? The 5.1 70mm is about 1536kbps and 35mm stereo is 640kbps dts, for comparison.

And thanks again, it’s really interesting learning about this stuff.

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#887985
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Star Wars theatrical versions not coming in 2015
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Since Disney owns SW now and George is letting go, I think we’re in a better place than ever to hope for this. I do think we’ll see the original trilogy restored and released on blu-ray and internet digital release someday.

JJ Abrams recently has been restoring the 70s horror movie Phantasm, just because he’s a big fan of it. With somebody like him around, I would not be surprised if somebody like him cares enough to lobby for getting the original trilogy restored and released.

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#887962
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DESPECIALIZED EDITION <em>QUALITY CONTROL</em> THREAD - REPORT ISSUES HERE
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REPORT-ROTJ-v2.0-WP
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This is a subtle one, but this shot just jumped out as fake looking to me. Part of that will be because of the higher clarity, but I think the way this shot is much brighter and higher contrast than the laserdisc makes this matte painting stick out like a sore thumb.

Here’s how it looked on laserdisc: http://i.imgur.com/TTbhsQe.jpg

I think the lack of shadow on the ship now is the main thing I’m noticing, especially in that darker bit in the middle which isn’t dark anymore. Anyways, thanks for the great work on all this!

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#887814
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The best audio, and differences between the many audio tracks available?
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Much thanks for the detailed info there! And thanks for including the sequels, I forgot to mention those.

My guess is the 93 audio track is the only one I’ve heard in a long time, so it would seem the changes didn’t bother me.

I just looked at this wiki page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases

but it was kind confusing to take in some of the details listed there.

Other than a C3PO tractor beam line, are there any notable dialogue differences between those various A New Hope audio tracks? And sounds like the main reason you dislike the 93 track is added sound effects?

The 85 mix does sound like a fun option, since that would be what I heard on VHS as a young lad. Any notable things in the comparison battle between that and the 77 stereo or 6-channel track? Quality and content wise? I’m very wish-washy on what to go with, but it is fun to have so many options.

The main thing I noticed on a quick comparison is I think the dialogue might come across stronger/better in the 93 mix, which could be a thing in it’s favor.

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#887754
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The best audio, and differences between the many audio tracks available?
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I was looking for a recommendation on which audio track to listen to, and it occurred to me I guess I’m also curious about them in general. And for the record it’ll come out as stereo on my setup, since I play it on my computer sent to my HDTV, which does have 5.1 speakers. But I like the stereo audio anyway.

I was just looking through the topic for Harmy’s terrific Despecialized edition searching for posts mentioning audio, and I saw one say “wrong topic really”, so figured I’d make a topic for it.

So I’ve always enjoyed the laserdisc version’s audio, in fact until just now when I got into the Despecialized edition, I’ve only been watching the ol’ laserdisc rips for the past 12 years or so. I don’t actually know but I assume these used the 93 audio track?

Also a post from that topic said this: “the general public will probably be happy with Disney’s 81 crawl/93 audio upmixed”, which made me guess maybe the 93 track is the crowd pleaser anyway?

But I see the 70mm 6-track version is the default, and I saw a post saying it sounds great. And the other two top contenders for me I think are the 77 35mm stereo mix, and the 85 laserdisc mix.

So as an English speaker just looking for a track that will sound great, which will be in stereo anyway, what is the best track for me? Just the one with the best dialogue clarity and presence, overall nice sounding, oomph, etc?

And are there any interesting differences between the many available options? After just sampling a couple scenes and trying out all these tracks, to me it sounds like the 93 one boosts the dialogue a bit, and I guess it’s the track I’m used to. But I’m open to trying new things! =D Thanks!

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