GlastoEls

doubleofive said:

That article was written by Matt from dinosaurdracula.com and formerly of x-entertainment.com, which are/were both fueled by nostalgia. StarWars.com was asking for this when they hired him. But even so, it’s hardly official word. My podcast network producer does an article for StarTrek.com, that doesn’t make my podcast canon. 😉

True enough, but somebody made the editorial decision to allow the article.

How nice to read a non revisionist account of what really happened!

I thought only the Empire did censuring…

Yeah HARMY, hurry up.

The only question: is this a disturbance in the force or just an innocent article about VHS?

darklordoftech said:

GlastoEls said:

SilverWook said:

And there are people inside Lucasfilm who want the OOT restored and released as much as we do.

Briefest of acknowledgments on the official site today that the Special Editons are controversial!

http://www.starwars.com/news/collectibles-from-the-outer-rim-star-wars-vhs-releases?cmp=smc|274674436&linkId=18658509

I love how that article is 100% revisionism-free. I love seeing the truth of how Star Wars has been throughout history.

The official site takes its first step into a larger, more open world.

Meanwhile the official Twitter posted:

https://twitter.com/starwars/status/664213076569407489
And immediately gets a ton of OOT requests. Maybe people do still care.

SilverWook said:

And there are people inside Lucasfilm who want the OOT restored and released as much as we do.

Briefest of acknowledgments on the official site today that the Special Editons are controversial!

http://www.starwars.com/news/collectibles-from-the-outer-rim-star-wars-vhs-releases?cmp=smc|274674436&linkId=18658509

SilverWook said:

darklordoftech said:

Is it just me or were the SEs hated far more before Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney? When Lucas owned Star Wars, everyone was saying “the evil Lucas is holding back the awesome OOT and shoving the awful SEs down our throats.” When Lucas sold to Disney, people switched to saying, “Disney wants to give us the awesome SEs but a small group of fans is trying to shove the awful OOT down our throats.”

There has always been a segment of the fandom that likes the SE’s. (Some have even gone out of their way to deride this site.) They don’t even want a world where both versions sit side by side and people can choose what to watch.

The general public is less aware of the situation, as the movies haven’t been referred to as Special Editions since 1997.

And this is why I slightly worry.

Who is actively - what’s the word - lobbying for this?

Save Star Wars has gone down - the general public know less and less - and nobody whatsoever mentions this at Lucasfilm any more.

Are we in danger that the quality of Harmy and other restorations is counter productive to Disney restoring it?

But then: look at the attention the recent Landis rumour got. The movie sites all picked it up, but so did some mainstream news sites, including Forbes…

darklordoftech said:

Is it just me or were the SEs hated far more before Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney? When Lucas owned Star Wars, everyone was saying “the evil Lucas is holding back the awesome OOT and shoving the awful SEs down our throats.” When Lucas sold to Disney, people switched to saying, “Disney wants to give us the awesome SEs but a small group of fans is trying to shove the awful OOT down our throats.”

That’s the distraction of The Force Awakens, plus the primary target of fury having thrown down his lightsaber and retired.

Look at the comments next to any SE release.

People still booed Han shooting first and Hayden in ROTJ at an OT marathon (2011 cuts) I attended last Christmas.

The better question is: are we doing enough proactively and politely to let Disney know?

Respectfully, we know the above.

Let’s keep this to specific conversations to the scenario in 2015 i.e. speculation about that situation changing.

Side note: when talking about the SEs in the article above the BFI mention the 1997 cuts, but they were definitely 2011 (magenta, "noooo" in ROTJ, no scream in TESB, etc).

It's so blatantly going to be the 2011 cuts; that's what they played at the original trilogy marathon I attended last year (http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/features/8-things-we-learned-star-wars-day), which featured the crowd (fantastically) booing loudly at every major SE change.

Yes, that was last year, but I can't believe they won't release the OOT theatrically or BD without major fanfare, and do they want to interfere with the buzz about The Force Awakens?

towne32 said:

SilverWook said:

There were many stories of people arranging to get May 25th 1983 off well in advance.

 Sure. And those marathons will sell out this time, I'm sure. But as far as I know, they're one day only events and that's probably not how they would handle a OOT release. Then again, how they would handle it seems to be 'not at all'.

Which again is the strangest part of all of this.

Not one single mention either way, by anybody at Disney / LFL, since the purchase back in 2012.

All we have on the record is the John Landis quote.

What if he were trained by TV's Frink?

binarysunset said:

Just dont see it happening while 20th Century Fox still holds on to home video distribution rights. I dont know what loophole Disney will try to find, to go along with it.

But don't Fox like money?

Did we ever get to the bottom why the Amazon CD soundtracks are special edition (Jedi Rocks & Victory) and the MP3s and vinyl are Theatrical (Lapti Nek & Yub Nub)?

SilverWook said:

If they're using the original album art, I presume it's on there?

Exactly my point; are they re-releasing the original soundtracks as released in 77, 80 and 83? Certainly using the artwork.

I suppose Yub Nub is out of the question?

What city?

Bingowings said:

It's Dagobaian for, "Lying Bastard".

Well that's your... ahem... point of view I guess!

Yep, VIP tickets as I'm from London and don't need to spend on hotels!

Fang Zei said:

GlastoEls said:

Since the sale, has anyone affiliated with LFL mentioned the OOT at all in any capacity?

It's pretty odd not to have gotten any official word on the subject in the almost three years since the sale.

What could possibly make it that sensitive of a subject?

Is it still just "too soon" and they don't want to upset GL, despite it not being his company anymore?

Is the Fox situation a roadblock and Disney wants to wait until 2020?

Or is it simply a matter of timing and they don't want to put it out until it makes the most sense business-wise?

This is of course assuming they're planning on eventually putting it out at all, which isn't even a given.

They're are just too many variables, and until I at least hear a rumor that gets picked up by one of the more reputable websites I'm done speculating.

Great post and I totally agree.

Since the sale, has anyone affiliated with LFL mentioned the OOT at all in any capacity?

^ What did KK say?

nightstalkerpoet said:

Ignore me.

Just in case its true...

?

Ben Burtt attempts to call Lucas out on exactly this during the Phantom Menace rough cut - he protests about as far as it's possible considering GL is his boss:

55 mins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da8s9m4zEpo

^ 

Correct. 

The only option at this point is a multi-version release.