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Frank your Majesty

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#1146673
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Banned members
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darthrush said:

DominicCobb said:

darthrush said:

Hal 9000 said:

Well, I’m hopeful for a Frink more similar to the good ol’ days. We ought to be able to let one another know if we have a problem with something another party has said in gentle, civil manner, at least as a first response. Frink has a reputation for gunning it from 0 to 60 and stifles discussion. To be honest, I’ve often refrained from posting in threads, usually posted by the uninitiated, about topics outside of his liking, just to avoid having more BS to put up with.
He’s a fun, endearing gatekeeper, and I like having him around. But he shouldn’t have such free reign to crap all over differing opinions.

If I had the mad scientist capabilities he himself possesses, I’d probably set the Frink-o-meter to about 33%.

Same, I love Frink as well but recently he just became a bit more aggressive towards others who disagreed with him on something as stupid as movies.

EDIT: Wrong wording there. Movies are one of my favorite things but it is stupid to get in heated name calling over them.

Frink didn’t get heated because he disagreed about the movie. It was because of the offensive word used.

I wasn’t talking about that instance. I’m talking about how every time a person ranks ROTS too high for Frink’s liking, he had to berate them for it. I like Frink, but like Hal, think sometimes he goes too far. I am not talking specifically about that situation.

But that’s not a bannable offense, so it shouldn’t play any role in his current ban.

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#1146672
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Banned members
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darthrush said:

Hal 9000 said:

Well, I’m hopeful for a Frink more similar to the good ol’ days. We ought to be able to let one another know if we have a problem with something another party has said in gentle, civil manner, at least as a first response. Frink has a reputation for gunning it from 0 to 60 and stifles discussion. To be honest, I’ve often refrained from posting in threads, usually posted by the uninitiated, about topics outside of his liking, just to avoid having more BS to put up with.
He’s a fun, endearing gatekeeper, and I like having him around. But he shouldn’t have such free reign to crap all over differing opinions.

If I had the mad scientist capabilities he himself possesses, I’d probably set the Frink-o-meter to about 33%.

Same, I love Frink as well but recently he just became a bit more aggressive towards others who disagreed with him on something as stupid as movies.

EDIT: Wrong wording there. Movies are one of my favorite things but it is stupid to get in heated name calling over them.

I have to disagree here. It was not about people not liking the movie, it was about people saying “where are all the attractive women in this movie”, “that fat asian chick” and of course the r-word. If you don’t like the movie, fine. If you don’t like the movie because you think “women don’t belong in Star Wars” or “Disney has an anti-male agenda”, then it’s a problem. And disagreeing with the way some Star Wars fans here talk about women is more than just disagreeing about a stupid movie.

Now, if moderators can’t monitor a spoiler thread, that’s also a problem. I fully understand that Jay and the mods have a life outside of this forum, but saying “here’s a spoiler thread, but remember to play nice, because the mods don’t want to read this” is just asking for trolls and it creates an obstacle to report posts, as noone wants to be the one that ruins the movie for the mods. At least the registration should have been closed one day ahead of the release to keep out the trolls and socks.

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#1145952
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Going away? Post so here!
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I’m mostly lurking and don’t usually post much, but at the moment, I have no interest at all to even read the Star Wars part of the forum. I guess I’ll keep visiting Off-Topic, but don’t be surprised if you don’t see me for the rest of the year.

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#1145378
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Yoda Is Your Father said:

chyron8472 said:

It’s like so many other long-standing franchises that have a cult following. You just can’t win for losing while trying to be the slightest bit creative.

So maybe they shouldn’t try? Leave the originals and make some new franchise instead of trying to reboot an old one.

Just a thought.

That is literally “some people just don’t want any new Star Wars movies”. If you think that way, why don’t you just not watch the new movies?

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#1142415
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Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (Disney has now bought them - 14 Dec '17)
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So, no mention of the OOT after the deal either means they are not interested in it or they are already working on it. Just like no mention of the OOT before the deal either meant they were not interested in it or they were already working on it. I don’t see how buying Fox changed anything. We either get it or we don’t and all we can do about it is wait.

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#1141544
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Ranking the Star Wars films
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I never said it doesn’t need compelling characters. I said the movie not being character-driven is a different issue than not liking the characters.

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#1141541
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Ranking the Star Wars films
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I really think you need to differentiate between movies that simply have characters and character-driven movies. If you call any movie that has characters interacting “character-driven”, then what’s the point of using that word anyways? For me, a character-driven movie is a movie that is primarily about the characters, more than other movies. The word becomes completely meaningless, if it can be applied to 99% of all movies.

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#1141535
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Ranking the Star Wars films
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I’m not here to argue about the characters of R1. My problem was with your assertion that it “didn’t even attmept” to be character-driven. You presented ‘not being character-driven’ as a criticism in itself and I think that’s not valid. Movies can be good, without being character-driven.
Sure, you can say you find the story boring and making the movie more character-driven would improve it. That’s fine. And you can say you find the characters bland, so they should be improved, and that’s fine, too. I disagree with that, but at least, these are valid ways to criticise the movie.

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#1141528
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Ranking the Star Wars films
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moviefreakedmind said:

Frank your Majesty said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Frank your Majesty said:

If R1 didn’t even attempt it, why blame it for not being character-driven? Or does every movie need to be character driven?

“At least The Phantom Menace tried to make a step-in-the-poop joke that isn’t completely tasteless, they horribly failed, but at least they tried. I can’t say the same of Citizen Kane.”

R1 barely attempted to have characters at all. If the Death Star and other iconic Star Wars imagery weren’t in it, then nothing about the film would be even remotely memorable.

And your analogy is not worth addressing.

You still didn’t answer if every movie needs to be character-driven.

Of course not, but it is important when the main plot isn’t compelling or interesting, especially since we know exactly how it’s going to turn out. We know they’ll get the plans, so it would seem logical to have it be character driven since the main plot is straightforward and already spoiled.

R1 was advertised as a war movie in the Star Wars universe and I think the comparison is quite fitting. It focuses on a small part of the whole, it isn’t really about character development and the outcome is known by practically everyone.

For me, it’s perfectly fine that R1 didn’t attempt to be more than that, so it shouldn’t be judged by a standard that it didn’t even intend to reach. It was always meant to tell a straight-forward story, that we already know. The main selling point is to show how it happend.

I think that almost every movie should have you caring about the characters one way or the other. Having boring characters is generally a sign of bad film-making. But not every movie needs to advance primarily by characters going through a phase of big changes, which is what I would understand by character-driven.

My phrasing was a bit off, but R1 didn’t seem to make much effort to have compelling characters. Most were without personality and the ones that were interesting got little focus.

That’s a different issue, then. And all I can say is, well, yeah, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

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#1141523
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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Maybe a movie about stealing an enigma machine from the Nazis? Doesn’t that sound exciting, even though we already know the outcome?

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#1141214
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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moviefreakedmind said:

Frank your Majesty said:

If R1 didn’t even attempt it, why blame it for not being character-driven? Or does every movie need to be character driven?

“At least The Phantom Menace tried to make a step-in-the-poop joke that isn’t completely tasteless, they horribly failed, but at least they tried. I can’t say the same of Citizen Kane.”

R1 barely attempted to have characters at all. If the Death Star and other iconic Star Wars imagery weren’t in it, then nothing about the film would be even remotely memorable.

And your analogy is not worth addressing.

You still didn’t answer if every movie needs to be character-driven.

I think that almost every movie should have you caring about the characters one way or the other. Having boring characters is generally a sign of bad film-making. But not every movie needs to advance primarily by characters going through a phase of big changes, which is what I would understand by character-driven.

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#1141001
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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If R1 didn’t even attempt it, why blame it for not being character-driven? Or does every movie need to be character driven?

“At least The Phantom Menace tried to make a step-in-the-poop joke that isn’t completely tasteless, they horribly failed, but at least they tried. I can’t say the same of Citizen Kane.”

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