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Fang Zei

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#1131207
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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^ Meanwhile, you can walk into a store and buy an actual 4k disc of a certain David Bowie movie George was involved in producing.

But you can’t get Star Wars.

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#1128631
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Rian Johnson to Head New Star Wars Trilogy
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DuracellEnergizer said:

Fang Zei said:

Literally one of the first things Disney said upon acquiring Lucasfilm just over five years ago was that the Star Wars universe has “over 25,000 years of history.”

This would only lend more credence to someone’s theory upthread about Rian’s trilogy being about the origins of the Jedi, which is pretty much exactly what I’ve been wanting them to do.

Everything must be explained. Nothing can be left up to the individual’s imagination. And it’s all canon, CANON, CANON.

If this trilogy has anything to do with the origins of the Jedi/Sith, I’m out. I’m sick of this crap.

Now that I think about it, they did say it would be an “unexplored corner” of the galaxy. That implies an unfamiliar location more than it does an unfamiliar time. So maybe I’m wrong and this will be set within the timeline of I-IX.

I wonder when we’ll see the first major project from the Nu-LFL to venture outside of the main era.

Are they still making those Old Republic games? They were never explicitly carried over into the new continuity like I-VI and TCW, but I seem to recall the most recent one coming out either right before or right after the Disney deal happened.

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#1128568
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Rian Johnson to Head New Star Wars Trilogy
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Your average moviegoer will probably consider the ST J.J. Abrams’ anyway, even though someone else directed the middle chapter (kind of like how most people think Lucas directed the entire OT).

At least Rian gets to actually lay the foundations this time.

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#1128535
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Rian Johnson to Head New Star Wars Trilogy
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Literally one of the first things Disney said upon acquiring Lucasfilm just over five years ago was that the Star Wars universe has “over 25,000 years of history.”

This would only lend more credence to someone’s theory upthread about Rian’s trilogy being about the origins of the Jedi, which is pretty much exactly what I’ve been wanting them to do.

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#1127136
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Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox?
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Not that it really matters (as evidenced most recently by Thor: Ragnarok), but I wonder why Universal will always own the release rights to any future standalone Hulk film.

Did Marvel completely sell them off at some point?

Is it different from the situation with F4 where Fox needs to make another movie every several years?

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#1122378
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THX on 35mm Tech IB preservation - HELP NEEDED
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SilverWook said:

A reminder that THX is going to be on Turner Classic Movies this Thursday night at 9:15pm PST.
If somebody can DVR it, I’d be most grateful. The fact they ran the post Star Wars reissue trailer to promote it tonight makes me think something might be up!

I’m watching it right now and, as expected, it’s the 2004 version.

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#1121684
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1997 Star Wars Special Edition 35mm Project
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Mavimao said:

Ah yes, I didn’t think about the Disney films. Indeed, OBWAT is not the first DI.

There was also the Gone With the Wind restoration from the early 90s. That was completely digitized.

OBWAT is the first complete DI of a live action movie.

As for the ‘98 theatrical re-release of GWTW, only 12 minutes or so of the movie was digitally restored, according to this article:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/1998/06/25/movies/scarlett-rhett-old-south-their-most-colorful-giving-new-life-beloved-but-faded.html

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#1121093
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1997 Star Wars Special Edition 35mm Project
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ZigZig said:

Chewielewis said:

Phantom menace was a cut negative, but since most of the film went through some form of digital manipulation, its mostly 2K filmouts.

According to IMDB, TMP was processed through a 2k DI: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/technical?ref_=tt_ql_dt_7

Imdb is user-based. I’ve seen some blatant inaccuracies in the technical specs of certain movies listed there. TPM was indeed a cut neg in ‘99.

In 2011 they were able to reconstruct the movie directly from ILM’s digital filmout tapes, which were still readable after more than a decade. This got them as close to the true original negative as possible. I’m not sure what the procedure was for the remaining shots that never went through the computer at all, whether they were scanned in from the cut neg or whether they were sitting on the filmout tapes as well for some reason.

In any event, this final(?) version of the movie would have been assembled digitally as a 2k DI, but whoever edited the imdb page should’ve specified that this was not done until the 2011 release.

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#1120865
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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John Doom said:

I agree most people don’t realize that film can look “hd”, though it’s not really their fault, they’re just not aware of it (I wasn’t too until some years ago! 😄 ).
About grain, though, I don’t know anyone who actually dislike it. Maybe they use DNR on movies just because it eases digital compressions and makes special effects blend better with the live-action footage.

Ease of compression and vfx blending have little to do with it.

They use DNR because they think that’s how people want their movies to look.

At least they’ve rectified many of the more egregious examples with proper remasters.

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#1120619
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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The next time you hear someone say film isn’t hd, remind them that The Shield - a show shot in 16mm - is being remastered in 4k.

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#1120432
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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adywan said:

I have the doc in HD and the crawl is upscaled

Man, even in straight-from-the-cable-box hd on an actual 720p tv with 1:1 pixel mapping, that wasn’t apparent at all. Although maybe I shouldn’t be so surprised by that.

There isn’t anything other than rabbit ears and a basic 2008 blu-ray player hooked up to my 1080p set (also from 2008), but I’m guessing it’s more noticeable at that res?

It would be fun to compare against the GOUT.

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#1118890
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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ZigZig said:

I can get - and share - a capture of this Spielberg doc.
Could you tell me at what moment the crawl does appear?

It’s just a little after the 37 minute mark.

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#1118073
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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one69chev said:

Fang Zei said:

I don’t have a dvr and my attempts to screenshot it on the hbo go app with my phone just get me an image of solid black for some reason.

The solid black is a piracy prevention tactic used by most streaming services now to prevent screen recording of purchased or rented materials. Sometimes you can still get audio, but the video is blacked out.

I managed to screenshot it on the comcast app, but this is on my phone, which is only 1334 by 750 pixels. So I’m not sure how much good this would do for a comparison with the GOUT and the SSE. Maybe I should take this to the preservation forum.

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#1117629
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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ChainsawAsh said:

Was the Empire of Dreams scan an upscale? I genuinely don’t remember.

What I meant was that the crawl in the Spielberg doc didn’t look like it had merely been upscaled from the clip in EoD. It looked like it came from a much higher quality source. Sorry if I worded it confusingly.

Do we even know what source was used for EoD? There had never been a home video release that included the unaltered crawl when EoD was put together in ‘04.

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#1117616
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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ChainsawAsh said:

Is it the same as the scan from Empire of Dreams?

It doesn’t look upscaled. To my eyes, it looks like a native hd transfer.

What source did the earlier versions of Despecialized use (or the current version for that matter)? I’m thinking specifically of the one that was used for the Kitbashed documentary on vimeo.

What source did EoD use back in ‘04 anyway?

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#1117314
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Because I didn’t feel like starting a new thread just to bring this up:

Did anyone see the Spielberg documentary that aired on HBO the other night?

The original ‘77 crawl makes its appearance for a few seconds as Steven tells his version of the now well-known story about De Palma suggesting an opening crawl to Lucas.

I don’t have a dvr and my attempts to screenshot it on the hbo go app with my phone just get me an image of solid black for some reason.

But I bring all of this up because it at least appears to be from a better quality source than the GOUT. Perhaps it was taken from the fresh (presumably hd) scan that was done back in ‘06 before it was downscaled all the way to 4:3 letterbox.

Has the original crawl popped up anywhere else over the last eleven years in comparable quality?

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#1112447
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Lust-In-Phaze said:

I’ve tried to understand this point for months now, but I really just have to ask: why would the rights reverting to Disney in 2020 make any difference whatsoever? They’ve released the trilogy on home video two or three times since the LFL buyout, albeit in the pre-existing 2011 edition, and they finally put the saga out on digital formats as well in that period. Why wouldn’t they wait until 2020 for those, too, if it was just a matter of making the most money off of them? And even when 2020 rolls around, they’ll never have the rights to the original 1977 Star Wars, so it’s not an issue of them not being allowed to restore the OOT either.

What moviefreakedmind said regarding the 2011 discs.

As for releasing the digital version in 2015 instead of waiting, that was because Fox never owned those particular rights to the other five movies to begin with. George held on to them, which means they immediately became Disney’s when the buyout happened (you can’t buy ANH on Disney’s digital download service, but you can on itunes, amazon, google, etc). Same thing applies to the tv broadcast rights.

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