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#1103196
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Duel (1971) - The Hybrid Cut
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Duel was originally released on TV with a 70-minute runtime. For its European theatrical premiere, Spielberg added more footage to get it to a required 90 minute runtime. Some of this is new car scenes and some of it is padding (the opening credits and the conversation with Mann’s wife.) In addition to the new footage, additional directorial changes were made, including a new, dynamic mono sound mix and the removal of much of David Mann’s redundant inner monologue to great effect.
This fan edit mostly follows the original, tighter TV edit of the film, while also using the theatrical sound mix and removing the inner monologues. It also, like the recent DVD and Blu ray releases of the film, removes the superfluous scene where David describes how he plans to defeat the truck on the grade. I also created some new opening and closing title cards to match the TV edit.
I used a 4:3 HDTV copy as the base because the Blu ray is unfortunately only available in cropped 1.85:1. Special thanks to DrDre’s ColorMatch tool which was incredibly useful in making the older, pinkish, HDTV scan look much better and close to the Blu ray’s color.

Sources used:
Duel 4:3 HDTV (primary video)
Duel Blu ray (primary mono audio and color reference)
Duel TV VHS Recording (two shots and some audio)
Duel SD extras documentary (partial opening shot which was blended with the VHS and Bluray)
Columbo Blu ray (pilot episodes) (opening and closing Universal logo)

Video: 7.66 GB HD MKV (majority HD footage with two shots from the VHS recording)
Audio: 2.0 Mono FLAC
Sample Frames: http://imgur.com/a/MnRyM

PM me for links.

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#1102472
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Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Edition HD Recreation
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This is an HD recreation of the director’s cut of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. It’s primarily sourced from the HDTV, which uses the same transfer as the director’s cut DVD. While the HDTV is low detail and has lots of compression, it does have more grain and better contrast than the Blu-ray. The unique footage from the director’s cut DVD is upscaled. I have included most of the new CGI shots that had no existing equivalent (or needed changes like the new Vulcan shots). However, I mostly used the original versions of the shots that were altered for the director’s cut to preserve HD quality (for this reason I’m calling it a fan edit). I also recreated a couple of the director’s cut changes in HD.

-Video: 1080p MKV - 13 GB

-Audio:
Track 1: FLAC - This is the same 5.1 as the DVD (lossy sourced), but I replaced the end credits music that was looped for the director’s cut and replaced it with the original cue from the remastered CD.
Track 2: AC3 - 2.0 Dolby Surround from the DVD.
Track 3: AC3 - The commentary from the DVD.
Track 4: AC3 - This is a commentary originally released as a podcast for startrek.com with the director’s cut production team leads.

-Subtitles (SRT):
1: English Subtitles
2: Text commentary by Michael Okuda.

Sample Frames: http://imgur.com/a/dWxo1

PM me for a copy.

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#1101506
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RELEASED: "Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Special Longer Version)"
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I’m currently working on an HD cut of the Director’s cut with the HDTV as a base (although while I include the new SFX shots, I mostly don’t include the altered shots to keep them in HD). The HDTV does have noticeable compression and it’s not very high detail, but it does have more grain and a much better contrast than the BD. One thing that’s interesting is that in the director’s cut they removed a lot of frames that had splice lines, but not consistently, so it’s a pain match that in the edit.

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#1077333
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Neverar's A New Hope Technicolor Recreation <strong>(V1 Released!)</strong>
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NeverarGreat said:

I’ve noticed that the 1997 changes are often the most degraded shots in the film, which is strange because, as they are much more recent than the 1977 film, they should be in better shape. But more often than not I’m having to repair the color. I guess these additions were even more shoddily preserved than the original elements.

The 2004 master is a 2k scan that has then been denoised with a bunch of DNR and then regrained to hide that fact. For the original negative and stuff recomposited in 2004, this is the only stage of detail loss. But for all the shots composited in 1997, it’s:

film, to a 2k scan, add CGI (possibly denoise based on the shot), print back to film, to another 2k scan, aggressive denoise, regrain.

The '97 stuff suffers more generational loss due to Lowery’s process.

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#1076283
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The Matrix 35mm
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Right, but they are pretty close. The scanned project print overall is biased toward yellow compared with the other (which is the result of the scans or print variance.) It matches with those Angelfire images much more than it does the DVD.
A quick contrast adjustment of the Angelfire one gets you to this:
Angelfire contrast
Which looks like a greener version of the scanned project. A push in the greens can match one to the other from there.
Compare with the dvd, which has weird gamma and a different tint:
dvd
Simply adjusting the DVD’s contrast won’t get you close to the prints.
The 35mm print does have a ton of green in many scenes, but not the brown-greenish wash the DVD has. The DVD looks very different from what was in theaters.

The scanned print is actually more green than the DVD in many places. (And it’s greener than the VCD that NeverarGreat was color matching to).
DVD:
dvd
Print:
35mm

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#1076276
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The Matrix 35mm
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yotsuya said:

Well, I can’t say that I caught the green when I saw The Matrix in the theater, but when I saw the two sequels in the theater, I very much noticed it. I can’t say that the extent of tint in the blu-ray is accurate, but I would say the DVD is accurate. And it is possible that the prints were not done as accurately as they wanted and what you are seeing on the print is actually an error rather than the correct colors. But I absolutely did notice it the theater when I saw the third movie. In my experience and knowledge, distribution prints are not done with the care and accuracy of color that the many talented people on this site tend to have. I’m more inclined to believe the scanned print is in error than there was some drastic change in artistic direction between the first and third movies.

You are right that one print isn’t a definitive record of the director’s choices, but there’s no reason to suspect it’s radically wrong. The print has a cohesive style, in that the scenes in the Matrix have a bleached out look compared to the real word (and quite a bit of green as well). It also has normal contrast and looks good, while the first DVD is weirdly washed out with it’s green-browns, which I think were quickly introduced during the telecine.
The two sequels (which were shot and produced together) do have a different style. They were also mastered on a Digital Intermediate, giving them a greater control of color, while the first one was colored optically.
I think the Wachowskis wanted to make the Matrix scenes more blanket green then they could satisfactorily do for theaters (or they changed their mind in time for the DVD). When the DVD/Laserdisc came out they took the opportunity to tint it during mastering. They then used a more blanket green for the sequels and then further revised the first film’s color to better match the sequels (The blu ray/2nd DVD is a full regrade with better contrast and control than the brown-green of the first dvd).

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#1076203
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The Matrix 35mm
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The LD is very close to the DVD. The theatrical print looks a lot different from all of the home media releases. I would love a shot-for-shot color correction of the Blu ray to the theatrical print.

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#1015336
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All Things Star Trek
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ray_afraid said:

Is anybody else a fan of TOS only? Or do you even know anybody else who is?
I don’t like TNG, DS9 or… that other show I saw 2 episodes of… I think the Quantum Leap guy was in it?
The only Trek film I’ve liked is TWOK. I haven’t seen all of the films though.
Anyways, I’ve never met anybody who only likes the original Trek. Am I all alone?

I like the films and both TNG and DS9, but I think I ultimately prefer TOS by a fair degree. It’s what I think of when I think of Star Trek. (Though I do need to actually watch more DS9.)

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#1014452
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Single Pass Regrade of Grindhouse ESB
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That is way too saturated. You mostly need to remove the green tint and bring back the blues.
NeverarGreat did a very nice LUT that makes it look way better. Outside of a shot-by shot correction, it’s likely the best that release will look. (I’m still surprised no one encoded it with this LUT and put it on myspleen.)
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/885937

Edit: He beat me to it.

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#1009006
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Star Wars Trilogy: Despecialized Edition DVD-9 ISOs
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Even if you can’t rencode video, you should be able to mux together the DVD-5 video with whatever video and subtitles you choose and make a DVD-9. Use PgcDemux and tsmuxer to demux the DVD-5 and MKV. Then use Muxman to mux it all together to a new DVD. You can get standard-def subs from Project Threepio.

Oh, and if you want the isolated score for Star Wars in lossless, PM me.

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#1002032
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Project #4K77
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This looks very promising. The sample is too pink, but the shots Dr Dre provided look great and I look forward to a version of this material with good color grading.

However, while there’s no question that working on this in 4k is great, I don’t think there’s much benefit to releasing it in 4K with that amount of DNR. It’s not particular bad DNR for 1080p. However, there’s not a ton of inherent detail in release prints; adding an extra step of information loss starts to kill any benefit that a 4K release might provide.

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#1001722
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Best Sources of The Keep 1983?
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They all come from a 1080i source and are all upscales of awful-looking, smeary SD material. They should look mostly identical. I would choose the one labeled “AU HDTV - 2 Audio Tracks,” because it was rencoded by a forum member (Chewtobacca) at 24fps.

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#996187
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Last movie seen
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Made for TV sequels used to be more of a thing and it is crazy to discover them. My favorite useless sequel is The Sting II, which got a theatrical release.

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#993891
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THX Italian 35mm - Feedback thread
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poita said:

Yep, it is not in my scans or on the film.

I have another little THX surprise I would like to share with anyone interested, but I need another 1GB of hosting space. If a couple of people could use infinit with my referral, it will get me the extra space I need so that I can share the file.
https://infinit.io/?referral=poita
They aren’t dodgy, just a very useful file storage service, and it gets me extra space to be able to share more files.

Done. Enjoy your GB.

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