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I don’t want to sound mean Editdroid, but why are you sharing this? It’s something purely negative that’s only going to generate hate.
I just wanted some opinions of what they thought. I shouldn’t have posted something like that.
When I told him about Han’s shirt in carbonite being fixed, this is what he said:
"Who cares about his stupid shirt?! How deranged do you have to be to care about or even notice that? Little girls are having their clitorises ripped off by religious zealots, and some nerd wants to fix Han Solo’s shirt?! There are VASTLY more important things in the world than this stupid nonsense. These nerds aren’t even creating art. They’re just saying to REAL artists, “Your stuff wasn’t good enough. Here, I’ll fix it.”
When I showed someone a clip of the Battle of Hoth from ESB:R, he asked, “Why cover up the beautiful stop-motion? There’s beauty in that handmade craftsmanship and work. Why conceal it?”
That makes no sense, its still the same effects
The AT-ATs were given a bit of motion blur so that they could have more “realistic” movements, concealing the jerkiness of the original stop-motion.
When I showed someone a clip of the Battle of Hoth from ESB:R, he asked, “Why cover up the beautiful stop-motion? There’s beauty in that handmade craftsmanship and work. Why conceal it?”
There’s no way to have the Revisited Saga in 4K, is there?
The prequels will also be erased from the saga now that i am no longer doing them. I just can’t bring myself to ever watch them again. The prequel references added to ANH:R will be gone for the HD version (The battle droid added into the sandcrawler scene was only added as in in-joke anyway. Left in a junk pile 😉 ). I no longer have to worry about fixing anything in the OT that contradicts those films. And, even if by some miracle i do decide to do them, i’ll fix the problems in those instead. So no biggie. But, for me, I’d like to start my viewing with Rogue One, followed by the OT, then the ST , as those films are far superior to the PT. Those are the only parts i would like to fit together now. Although you’d probably still be able to watch the prequels with Revisited because nothing i’m doing really contradicts those anyway ( plus i may still be adding the “you’re Mother once thought as you do” line instead of the original "Obi-Wan). That’s just my personal opinion of the PT and i appreciate that there are fans out there that like them, so i wouldn’t really want to make Revisited so you couldn’t watch the PT too if you wanted to.
I doubt anybody will complain about the Battledroid scrap if you keep it in. Even if you ignore the PT it’s now just a extra bit of detail in the background brightening the place up a bit. Removing any trace of Battle of the Heroes from the DS duel is good, I love that music too much and it is not the right track for two bitter old men finding each other again.
However some references are too good to change, the updated DS plans animations and the holo-displays on Yavin for example. Maybe remove the blue Naboo-like detailing around the plans animation but the idea of the old style (from Rogue One and the origional ANH) being a ‘DVD cover’ type thing with your animation underneath would be the absalute best way to do it. And the holograms make the Battle of Yavin feel far more active or frantic than the little moving red pie chart.
I also think Vader should still have his eyebrows gone. He’s more machine now than man, he should look it. To the people saying it humanises him? Well we don’t really need that because there’s two other things that do that, the lack of yellow eyes and his appearance as a ghost later (which I also think should be Shaws head on Haydons costume and not a copy ‘n’ paste of Obi Wans costume), both of which I think are far more humanising than giving a man in a face-hugging airtight mask extra places for sweat to accumulate.
Also, unrelated to PT stuff, I hate all the dancing and singing in Jabbas Palace the original and the SE versions. I have no problem with an atmospheric band then Oolas (sp?) dance number leading to dinner time but the full one band and both choices of music? Nah. Though, this one isn’t so much a suggestion as it is a statement, so… Yeah.
I agree with everything you said.
Sorry, I’ll be quiet.
When should we expect a full comparison chart?
What kind of Blu-Ray menu designs are you making for the Empire Revisited Blu-Ray?
I said a while ago that the Blu_ray/ DVD versions won’t be available until mid next year at the earliest
Thanks, I obviously completely missed that!
Why waiting that long by the way ? I understand that making a full bluray with menu and features takes time, but if the fanedit already exists in high quality I fail to understand why a mkv of the ucompressed version of the edit is postoned to next summer.
The mkv is already out there. I’m not sure what you are referring to here
I think he’s requesting a second MKV be released that matches the bit rate you plan to use on the Bluray.
Otherwise, he’s requesting what we’re all secretly craving, a lossless 10-bit x265 encoded mkv that is an exact representation of what’s on your computer as a finished project, complete with the audio in LPCM. Then everyone can customize/reencode the file on their computer on their own time to fit their target device or media.
I think he is a she, and if you think I’m gonna complete that ROTS quote,
Actually, it’s an AOTC quote.
Exactly.
I’m pretty sure this is the moment for that signal Obi-Wan does stroking his mustache.
An example of actual decent comedy in the prequels.
And of course that’s the one they cut.
I thought the comedy in that scene was terrible, but much like 99% of the attempted comedy in the prequels
Can we please not bring the Prequels up again just to criticize them for the billionth time?
I’m pretty sure i can discuss what the hell i want (inside of the forums rules of course) and have my own opinions on those crap films, in my own damn thread. This isn’t the “you can only discuss what Editroid wants to hear” thread
Sorry for being so rude.
I said a while ago that the Blu_ray/ DVD versions won’t be available until mid next year at the earliest
Thanks, I obviously completely missed that!
Why waiting that long by the way ? I understand that making a full bluray with menu and features takes time, but if the fanedit already exists in high quality I fail to understand why a mkv of the ucompressed version of the edit is postoned to next summer.
The mkv is already out there. I’m not sure what you are referring to here
I think he’s requesting a second MKV be released that matches the bit rate you plan to use on the Bluray.
Otherwise, he’s requesting what we’re all secretly craving, a lossless 10-bit x265 encoded mkv that is an exact representation of what’s on your computer as a finished project, complete with the audio in LPCM. Then everyone can customize/reencode the file on their computer on their own time to fit their target device or media.
I think he is a she, and if you think I’m gonna complete that ROTS quote,
Actually, it’s an AOTC quote.
Exactly.
I’m pretty sure this is the moment for that signal Obi-Wan does stroking his mustache.
An example of actual decent comedy in the prequels.
And of course that’s the one they cut.
I thought the comedy in that scene was terrible, but much like 99% of the attempted comedy in the prequels
Can we please not bring the Prequels up again just to criticize them for the billionth time?
Are you going to keep the Stargate SC-1 explosion for Alderaan, or are you creating a new one?
If you’re going to remove the Sarlaac’s beak, does that also mean you’re removing its tentacles?
I said a while ago that the Blu_ray/ DVD versions won’t be available until mid next year at the earliest
Thanks, I obviously completely missed that!
Why waiting that long by the way ? I understand that making a full bluray with menu and features takes time, but if the fanedit already exists in high quality I fail to understand why a mkv of the ucompressed version of the edit is postoned to next summer.
The mkv is already out there. I’m not sure what you are referring to here
I think he’s requesting a second MKV be released that matches the bit rate you plan to use on the Bluray.
Otherwise, he’s requesting what we’re all secretly craving, a lossless 10-bit x265 encoded mkv that is an exact representation of what’s on your computer as a finished project, complete with the audio in LPCM. Then everyone can customize/reencode the file on their computer on their own time to fit their target device or media.
I think he is a she, and if you think I’m gonna complete that ROTS quote,
Actually, it’s an AOTC quote.
Why did you retime when “Episode V” came up in the crawl to be a second earlier? Especially since The Force Awakens had already been out for a while, and “Episode VII” showed up in the crawl a second later, just like all of the other official releases. You said you wanted to have TFA in your viewing marathon, right? So I thought you wanted some consistency by having the crawls start at the same time with each movie.
The third moon is most likely staying.
That’s good. I like having least SOME continuity with the PT.
No one’s forcing you to chase flying pigs.
What do you mean?
I guess
Here’s my final post on the matter.
doesn’t mean what it used to mean.
I thought it would be, but it got out of hand. This whole argument is making my brain fry.
I don’t think he forgot about that scene, I just think he kinda sorta wrote himself into a corner. Padme would have to die somewhere in the prequel trilogy regardless. It is bad story telling to have a principle character survive a chapter, but to never be shown again in the rest of the story.
But her disappearance was already explained in the 6th film, so there was NO need to kill her off. That’s not bad storytelling. What is bad storytelling is to contradict so many things in a saga where the second part was filmed prior to the first part, where the story was already set, but you still end up screwing things up that were mentioned in the original films. For eg:
OT- Owen was afraid that Luke would follow Obi-wan on some damn fool idealistic crusade, like his father did
PT - Owen never even met Obi_wan while anakin was alive and Anakin didn’t follow him on a crusade either as, by the time owen was even in the picture, Anakin was already a jedi and it was Qui-Gon that he followed originallyThe reference is to when Anakin went off to fight in the Clone Wars. Following the death of his mother and the funeral, Anakin and Padme are summoned back to their ship when a message from Obi-wan has been detected. Anakin leaves shortly thereafter and three years later, the Jedi are blamed for trying to overthrow the Republic and Anakin is among the casualties in the Jedi Purge. Owen felt that Anakin shouldn’t have left to fight in a war that he was going to lose. This anger is directed towards Obi-wan, after bringing him Luke to raise. This is why he doesn’t want Obi-wan around him and doesn’t want Luke to know about his Jedi heritage. And why he doesn’t want Luke to go to the academy. He’s afraid that he will lose his life like Anakin did.
According to the PT, Owen never even knew Anakin. A step-brother he met very briefly. Why the hell would he have even cared what the hell happened to him? And why the hell woudl he be angry at Obi_wan fro bringing him Luke to raise? That would just make Owen an asshole that never wanted Luke in the first place, so why the hell would he be so protective? He wouldn’t. All of that is just trying to make stuff up to try and forgive bad writing. It’s bad writing plain and simple when fans, and spin off books that come later, have to try and make sh*t up to try and fix massive problems that shouldn’t have even been there in the first place when the ground work and situations were there from the start. A good writer would know how to do that.
Owen knew enough from the five years Shmi lived with him. And the fact that Anakin failed in his endeavors, which got him killed and force Owen to take care of his kid, these are reasons why he feels this way later on. If Anakin hadn’t gotten involved, he’d still be alive and taking care of his own kid. Rather than dying in a senseless and futile conflict.
I don’t think he forgot about that scene, I just think he kinda sorta wrote himself into a corner. Padme would have to die somewhere in the prequel trilogy regardless. It is bad story telling to have a principle character survive a chapter, but to never be shown again in the rest of the story.
But her disappearance was already explained in the 6th film, so there was NO need to kill her off. That’s not bad storytelling. What is bad storytelling is to contradict so many things in a saga where the second part was filmed prior to the first part, where the story was already set, but you still end up screwing things up that were mentioned in the original films. For eg:
OT- Owen was afraid that Luke would follow Obi-wan on some damn fool idealistic crusade, like his father did
PT - Owen never even met Obi_wan while anakin was alive and Anakin didn’t follow him on a crusade either as, by the time owen was even in the picture, Anakin was already a jedi and it was Qui-Gon that he followed originallyThe reference is to when Anakin went off to fight in the Clone Wars. Following the death of his mother and the funeral, Anakin and Padme are summoned back to their ship when a message from Obi-wan has been detected. Anakin leaves shortly thereafter and three years later, the Jedi are blamed for trying to overthrow the Republic and Anakin is among the casualties in the Jedi Purge. Owen felt that Anakin shouldn’t have left to fight in a war that he was going to lose. This anger is directed towards Obi-wan, after bringing him Luke to raise. This is why he doesn’t want Obi-wan around him and doesn’t want Luke to know about his Jedi heritage. And why he doesn’t want Luke to go to the academy. He’s afraid that he will lose his life like Anakin did.
According to the PT, Owen never even knew Anakin. A step-brother he met very briefly. Why the hell would he have even cared what the hell happened to him? And why the hell woudl he be angry at Obi_wan fro bringing him Luke to raise? That would just make Owen an asshole that never wanted Luke in the first place, so why the hell would he be so protective? He wouldn’t. All of that is just trying to make stuff up to try and forgive bad writing.
AARRRGGGHHH!!! 😠
I guess you can’t handle the truth 😉
You have your theories, I have mine.
I don’t think he forgot about that scene, I just think he kinda sorta wrote himself into a corner. Padme would have to die somewhere in the prequel trilogy regardless. It is bad story telling to have a principle character survive a chapter, but to never be shown again in the rest of the story.
But her disappearance was already explained in the 6th film, so there was NO need to kill her off. That’s not bad storytelling. What is bad storytelling is to contradict so many things in a saga where the second part was filmed prior to the first part, where the story was already set, but you still end up screwing things up that were mentioned in the original films. For eg:
OT- Owen was afraid that Luke would follow Obi-wan on some damn fool idealistic crusade, like his father did
PT - Owen never even met Obi_wan while anakin was alive and Anakin didn’t follow him on a crusade either as, by the time owen was even in the picture, Anakin was already a jedi and it was Qui-Gon that he followed originallyThe reference is to when Anakin went off to fight in the Clone Wars. Following the death of his mother and the funeral, Anakin and Padme are summoned back to their ship when a message from Obi-wan has been detected. Anakin leaves shortly thereafter and three years later, the Jedi are blamed for trying to overthrow the Republic and Anakin is among the casualties in the Jedi Purge. Owen felt that Anakin shouldn’t have left to fight in a war that he was going to lose. This anger is directed towards Obi-wan, after bringing him Luke to raise. This is why he doesn’t want Obi-wan around him and doesn’t want Luke to know about his Jedi heritage. And why he doesn’t want Luke to go to the academy. He’s afraid that he will lose his life like Anakin did.
According to the PT, Owen never even knew Anakin. A step-brother he met very briefly. Why the hell would he have even cared what the hell happened to him? And why the hell woudl he be angry at Obi_wan fro bringing him Luke to raise? That would just make Owen an asshole that never wanted Luke in the first place, so why the hell would he be so protective? He wouldn’t. All of that is just trying to make stuff up to try and forgive bad writing.
AARRRGGGHHH!!! 😠
I don’t think he forgot about that scene, I just think he kinda sorta wrote himself into a corner. Padme would have to die somewhere in the prequel trilogy regardless. It is bad story telling to have a principle character survive a chapter, but to never be shown again in the rest of the story.
But her disappearance was already explained in the 6th film, so there was NO need to kill her off. That’s not bad storytelling. What is bad storytelling is to contradict so many things in a saga where the second part was filmed prior to the first part, where the story was already set, but you still end up screwing things up that were mentioned in the original films. For eg:
OT- Owen was afraid that Luke would follow Obi-wan on some damn fool idealistic crusade, like his father did
PT - Owen never even met Obi_wan while anakin was alive and Anakin didn’t follow him on a crusade either as, by the time owen was even in the picture, Anakin was already a jedi and it was Qui-Gon that he followed originally
The reference is to when Anakin went off to fight in the Clone Wars. Following the death of his mother and the funeral, Anakin and Padme are summoned back to their ship when a message from Obi-wan has been detected. Anakin leaves shortly thereafter and three years later, the Jedi are blamed for trying to overthrow the Republic and Anakin is among the casualties in the Jedi Purge. Owen felt that Anakin shouldn’t have left to fight in a war that he was going to lose. This anger is directed towards Obi-wan, after bringing him Luke to raise. This is why he doesn’t want Obi-wan around him and doesn’t want Luke to know about his Jedi heritage. And why he doesn’t want Luke to go to the academy. He’s afraid that he will lose his life like Anakin did.
Here’s my final post on the matter.
“The part that I had never really developed is the death of Luke and Leia’s mother. I had a back story for her in earlier drafts, but it basically didn’t survive. When I got to JEDI, I wanted one of the kids to have some kind of memory of her because she will be a key figure in the new episodes I’m writing.”
–George Lucas, Star Wars-The Return Of The Jedi: Annotated Screenplay, 1997
“Leia’s recollection as described in Return of the Jedi have no inherent flaws and are valid given the greater context of the saga. But I suspect those looking for contradictions always find them.”
–Rick McCallum
Valheru_84 said:
Clearly if you focus on the OT and ignore the stupid retconning happening in the PT, you would easily deduce from what Leia says that she was at least 2-3 years old when her mother died, 1-2 years at the youngest..Val
So?
It’s easy to explain how Leia remembers Padme, without any outside material. It’s because she has the Force. Plain and simple.
And yet leia said that she died when she was very young and NOT that she died when she was born ( which is how anyone would have talked if their parent had died in childbirth) . And that is because Leia’s mother WAS still alive during the first few years of her life when Jedi was written. Silly excuses cannot hide the fact that George forgot his own films and screwed up when doing the prequels.
Very young, newborn, whatever. Same thing in this case.
If Leia’s mother died giving birth, she wouldn’t tell Luke, a close friend in an intimate conversation, that she died when she was very young, she’d tell him she died giving birth and wouldn’t have memories of her at all.
Keep in mind that Leia doesn’t have any concrete memories of her mother, just the images and feelings she described.