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#1198793
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Star Wars Trilogy SE bluray color regrade
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I’m working on the Vader/Antilles confrontation for the shot by shot regrade. I’m combining information from multiple sources, including the 4k77 scan, and the 1997 SE scan by poita. The 4k77 scan is rather blue shifted for large parts of the Tantive IV sequence. Here are two shots, that are close to being finished:

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#1198214
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Mavimao said:

DrDre said:

I have to say, I enjoyed TLJ a lot on bluray. I’m gonna miss Snoke though. I love a true evil mofu…

Huh!.. very interesting turn of opinion. What changed your mind when rewarching it on home video if you don’t mind me asking?

I think I just accepted it’s flawed, and tried to look past those flaws, and then found I enjoy Mark Hamill’s performance a lot. Snoke is a better Emperor than Ian McDiarmid’s prequel reinterpretation, which was just campy without being menacing. I also found the Kylo/Rey skype sessions to be one of the more original elements in the film, that ended up being really effective. I also really enjoyed the last act, with Kylo betraying Snoke, and Luke pulling the wool over the eyes of his former student. Overall it’s an above average blockbuster, that also happens to be a Star Wars film.

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#1197233
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The Last Jedi regrade - One LUT to rule them all...
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kk650 said:

V4 is definately an improvement on V3 IMHO. Nice job!

Dre, do you have any plans to put this V4 regrade out there as a proper release?

Thanks! Your v3 is looking pretty sweet as well! 😃

Sadly, while I can produce LUTs very easily, I don’t have the software installed to quickly render a regrade with the LUT. I probably should invest some time and money to update my software and hardware, since I’m mostly working on an aging laptop. 😉

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#1195764
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The Last Jedi regrade - One LUT to rule them all...
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Here are few more sets of example frames.

Bluray set 3:

Regrade v4 set 3:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/2JFNNN8U

Bluray set 4:

Regrade v4 set 4:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/PDWNNN8X

Bluray set 5:

Regrade v4 set 5:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/2J1NNN8U

Bluray set 6:

Regrade v4 set 6:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/PDGNNN8X

Bluray set 7:

Regrade v4 set 7:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/2JMNNN8U

Bluray set 8:

Regrade v4 set 8:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/PDPNNN8X

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#1195762
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The Last Jedi regrade - One LUT to rule them all...
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Here’s LUT v4, which fixes the problems associated with v1-v3.

Bluray set 1:

Regrade v4 set 1:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/2JJNNN8U

Bluray set 2:

Regrade v4 set 2:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/P7LNNN8X

Here’s the LUT:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oRD-eyp4oB1Zj6mPq4_Pe4apAcAdzvdg/view?usp=sharing

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#1195318
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The Last Jedi regrade - One LUT to rule them all...
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JawsTDS said:

You’ve definitely removed that blanket tint, looks awesome.

One thing, this could be my end, but it seems that the shadows have boosted Red values – the starfields look red tinted. Is that just a byproduct of removing the blanket tint?

The red tint is in the original frame as well. It’s a helo from the explosion. The saturation has been boosted slightly for the regrade, so the helo is more pronounced.

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#1195231
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The Last Jedi regrade - One LUT to rule them all...
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I created this thread to continue the discussion in kk650’s thread. The objective is to obtain the best possible LUT for regrading TLJ, that satisfies the largest number of people. Most if not all seemed to agree the contrast boost was not an improvement, however the contrast boost was not the only change I made to the LUT, and so here’s a third version, that keeps the colors from v2, but doesn’t alter the contrast of the movie.

Bluray set 1:

Regrade v3 set 1:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/PLLNNN8X

Bluray set 2:

Regrade v3 set 2:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/2BJNNN8U

Here’s the LUT:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZoLgoLD-HI2bqW8y9ouDOc8oaZ2dx8nX/view?usp=sharing

Let me know what you think?

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#1195203
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Star Wars Trilogy SE bluray color regrade
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Slavicuss said:

Much more pleasing to the eye than purple-faced people.

What bothered me most about the colour grading for modern STAR WARS home video releases, was how blue Greedo looked. I remembered him being green NOT blue.

Thanks! I’ve finished the next batch of frames, and brightened the color grading somewhat to improve shadow detail:

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#1194548
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kk650's Regraded Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi V2 (blanket yellow tint removed from blu-ray)
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Turisu said:

Yoda seems to have lost his ghostly haze in the corrected frame.

Everything is a haze for the TLJ bluray, as the black levels are raised, and the contrast very low. The blue haze is there, but at higher contrast levels it is less noticeable in the darker regions of the frame. A small price to pay for more natural contrast settings in my view. Conversly it is more noticeable in the brighter areas of the frame. However, there’s always the alternative of the low contrast LUT.

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#1194523
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kk650's Regraded Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi V2 (blanket yellow tint removed from blu-ray)
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Chewielewis said:

I watched the HDR version the other day and the bluray soon after that and found that the Blacks are elevated throughout the whole film. On TFA and every other star wars the starfield is pitch black, on TLJ its grey. Consider correcting that (if you havent)

Yeah, I agree the bluray looks to be low contrast. I’ve adjusted my regrade (this will be the last, I don’t want to hijack kk650’s thread), to accommodate this:

Comparison with the bluray:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/6GPNNN8X

Here’s is another set of example frames:

Comparison with the bluray:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/66LNNN8X

Here’s the LUT (use or adjust freely):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h95CAOg16wJNq1IphVT6eaRj1YUxwwJP/view?usp=sharing

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#1194281
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kk650's Regraded Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi V2 (blanket yellow tint removed from blu-ray)
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towne32 said:

Firstly - Exellent LUT, Dre!

Secondly - I was wrong, KK650. The yellow tint does seem to be applied evenly across the film based on what Dre is saying. I don’t get how applying a single setting on the top of a 2.5hr film is in any way what a professional in the industry should get paid for doing. shrug

Thanks! 😃

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#1194156
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kk650's Regraded Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi V2 (blanket yellow tint removed from blu-ray)
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kk650 said:

darthrush said:

Could you post some screenshots from the regraded scene with Rey handing Luke the saber? I need to end up marching that footage with the overcast colors from TFA and this sounds like something along those lines.

After the blanket yellow tint is removed from The Last Jedi, it doesn’t look overcast like it did when they shot the scene in The Force Awakens so its unlikely to help in terms of maintaining continuety. I’m pretty certain they reshot the scene again for The Last Jedi and the lighting conditions seem to have been pretty different.

Here’s a screencap comparison between the blu-ray and this regrade from that scene:

Blu-ray:

Regrade:

In my view this shot is also too blue. At least it’s not white balanced, so there’s a blue tint in the highlights for sure. If I regrade your regrade, I get what is in my opinion a much more balanced and appealing image, that keeps some of the warmth of the original color grading:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/M0CNNN8U

The colors are in very good agreement with this production photo, which appears to be shot with perfect white balance:

The colors of this production photo are also in perfect agreement with this amateur photo of Skellig Michael:

This production photo shows the color of Luke’s Jedi robes, which are in agreement with my regrade, and the other production photo, while the colors in your regrade are markedly different:

To summarize, I believe you overcorrected your TLJ regrade, and introduced a blanket blue tint across the film.

Here are all the example frames you showed, but with my color grading applied, where the fox image now looks perfectly balanced:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/M1JNNN8U

Here’s the LUT for those that would like to apply this color grading to the bluray:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dLK4mR_Veyla9Xuv4gvt4zLrS7SCiE-Y/view?usp=sharing