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#1084081
Topic
General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
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SilverWook said:

Anchorhead said:

SilverWook said:
Bought some groceries at Target, and passed through the toy aisle, and what should I see? That action figure two pack with Moroff! Only one on the pegs, and sitting right in front like it was waiting for me. Impulse buy! Haven’t bought a SW figure in a long time.

Awesome. I’ve never had a Star Wars shirt or toy, but I feel like I’ll be correcting that in the coming weeks. I have my Rogue One socks as my only wearable Star Wars things ever, but I feel like I’m this close to getting a shirt.

I find that amazing you’ve never had any merchandise at all. I’ve had more than a few shirts over the years. There are so many cool shirt designs out now it puts the 70’s stuff to shame. As hard water out here eventually ate away my favorite shirts, I kept my 10th anniversary shirt in mothballs until I saw TFA. Still fits like a glove.
I’m sure modern science could explain why two printed shirts of similar fabric survived my childhood but all the others didn’t. (The iron on stuff was faded by the third wash.) Neither one is Star Wars though.

Yeah, I can’t remember a time when I didn’t have Star Wars merchandise. Some of my earliest memories involve playing with this:

And it’s not infrequently that I can be found sporting one of the handful of Star Wars shirts I own:

Star Wars merch is legion…It is pointless to resist!

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#1067707
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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Lord Haseo said:

Considering the fact you like Rogue One why would you consider it to be EU? It also fits pretty well with STAR WARS and is more than suitable substitute for the PT.

Well, it’s like if I read some Star Wars EU book. Even if I enjoy it, it really doesn’t have any bearing on the story presented in the original films (it’s more like one of those “What if?” comics). Also, it probably has a lot to do with the quality of the prequels (or lack therof). In that their failure promotes my tendency to disregard anything beyond The Original Trilogy. If one was Forced (get it?) to include and consider any Star Wars film as canon just because LucasFilm says so, then their inadequacies would actually start to taint and diminish the originals. And once you start disregarding “official” releases, then it just becomes the standard operating procedure. So, even when they finally put out a good movie, I’m just pleasantly surprised and enjoy it for what it is. But we’re way past the point where I would take any newly released film and use it to reframe the context of the original movies. And since we’re going to be getting a new Star Wars film pretty much every year ad infinitum, if I just start picking and choosing the few films I consider acceptable to add to some sort of personal canon, it just seems arbitrary and unnecessary. For me, Star Wars is…STAR WARS (the original movies). They represent the fundamental, unalterable core of the series. Everything else they keep piling on top, for better or for worse, is just extraneous. Now, when they do release a quality movie (like Rogue One), then great!..I’ll watch it and enjoy it and add it to the list of Star Wars stuff I like. But I’ve transcended the need for any personal “Official” label for those items. It all basically resides in that nebulous and ever-growing cloud of EU that perpetually girdles the original “core” films.

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#1067677
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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  1. The Empire Strikes Back
  2. Star Wars/Return of the Jedi
  3. Star Wars/Return of the Jedi (although most of the time, if I had to pick just one of the two to watch in a single sitting, I’d probably pick Jedi; those throne room scenes are just too epic to pass up, “Oh, I’m afraid the deflector shield will be quite operational when your friends arrive”…evil smile)
  4. Rogue One (finally, the first good Star Wars film since the originals)

-------------- This is the cutoff separating the good movies from those that I really have no desire to ever watch again---------

  1. The Force Awakens…meh…
  2. The Phantom Menace (although I’d rather just watch the Duel of the Fates scene)
  3. Revenge of the Sith
  4. Attack of the Clones (romance…dialogue about sand…What’s not to love?)

And, it goes without saying (except I’ll say it anyway), this list refers to only the original incarnations of the films (not the “special” editions), and I consider anything outside The Original Trilogy to be basically just EU anyway (regardless if I think it to be good or bad).

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#1064711
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What is your Star Wars?
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Star Wars is:

All the usual stuff…

PLUS…

A close-up of Salacious Crumb saying “Hello in TV Land.”

Which appeared in the From Star Wars to Jedi ad that played before each of the original movies on the Star Wars VHS boxed set that I owned and watched on a daily basis all through High School…and beyond!

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#1064700
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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John Doom said:

darthrush said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

So after watching this again, I’m wondering if the ending would have been better had Fin died. Probably not a popular opinion, but it would have been a powerful event for his character, and I’m struggling to think of what kind of unique role he could play in the rest of the trilogy. His arc seems kind of complete already.

Not a crazy proposition. This thought has crossed my mind many times since I first saw it.

I thought that too, but it’s partly for another reason: I know this is very unpopular, but I think Finn’s role in the movie feels, unfortunately, expandable. If you look at what he does in TFA, the only two things which move the plot forward are saving Poe (another hit-and-miss character, especially since he wasn’t originally supposed to come back in the third part of the movie) and helping Han find the panel to lower Starkiller’s shields. That’s it. The writers even struggled to make him relevant in the final duel, making Ben use the force to make Rey unconscious (he doesn’t do it anymore later) so Finn could fight him alone.
They could’ve switched him with another character and it still wouldn’t have really affected the plot, which I think is unfortunate: being a former stormtrooper, he could’ve been the best character in the movie, especially if they fleshed out more his internal conflicts. As he is now in TFA, he could’ve died and it would’ve still been alright, bacause he feels expendable (to me, at least).

The problem with Finn is that he’s really just a former stormtrooper-ino (in name only). Really, he acts nothing like an ex-stormtrooper. He’s just some dude (just a likeable goof who bumbles his way through the film). Which is indeed unfortunate because a former stormtrooper as a character has a lot of potential for exploration and development. But Finn’s lack of depth really is just a symptom of the bigger problem. Which is the disappointing reality that The Force Awakens is actually a pretty shallow movie. Mostly, it’s just your typical mediocre Hollywood Sci-Fi action film with only the trappings from the original Star Wars trilogy to raise it’s profile. It’s not that it was horrible (they did manage to avoid the overt stupidity of the prequels), but the film played it too safe (mostly consisting of a steady procession of OT characters/vehicles/themes that would conveniently pop up between/during the many action scenes…"Oooo, look! It’s the Millennium Falcon! pause for applause…Oh, and there’s Han Solo! pause for applause…And look there! Another Death Star…but BIGGER! crickets chirping).

Now the film wasn’t WHOLLY inadequate. There were a few decent parts too. For instance, I mostly liked what they did with Kylo Ren. But then all the time they spent developing his character is wasted when he eventually comes across Rey and her whole waltzing through the movie doing her “anything you can do, I can do better” routine. I mean, really…You’re going to have the obligatory lightsaber duel in the finale feature three characters, only one of which has any training with an actual lightsaber (and he still loses because, you know, there’s this certain protagonist that happens to be naturally great at just about everything…on demand). I guess J.J. knew he wasn’t going to be around for the following films. So, he wanted to have the payoff for her character at the end of this first film (but it just seems all too easy and unearned).

Unfortunately, the Force Awakens has taken most of the wind out the sails of my anticipation for Episode VIII.

But whatever…At least Rogue One was really good.

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#1052115
Topic
First Movie Seen
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I think the first movie I actually saw at a theater was Star Wars (at a drive-in during the movie’s original release). I must have been two or three at the time.

Then there was my first date, when I went to see Cinderella at the theater with a girl from my kindergarten class. That was around 1981. Which is the same year I saw Excalibur and Dragonslayer at the theater. Then I saw Dark Crystal in the theater in 1982.

Looking back at all these great movies I was seeing at such a young age, all I have to say is, “Man, my momma was raisin’ me right!”

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#1047489
Topic
I tend to watch the SE sometimes
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slopes0213 said:

Dirge said:

The last time I watched the special editions was when I saw them in the theater in 1997 (and I even have the 2006 DVD set with the GOUT bonus discs, but I never bothered to watch the new special edition DVDs that they came with; although I have seen a few scenes online, “Hayden’s ghost”, etc.).

I’ve never felt any motivation to rewatch bastardized versions of Star Wars when I can just watch…Star Wars…the real thing…

Nothing like the real thing!

Accept no substitutes!

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#1047274
Topic
I tend to watch the SE sometimes
Time

The last time I watched the special editions was when I saw them in the theater in 1997 (and I even have the 2006 DVD set with the GOUT bonus discs, but I never bothered to watch the new special edition DVDs that they came with; although I have seen a few scenes online, “Hayden’s ghost”, etc.).

I’ve never felt any motivation to rewatch bastardized versions of Star Wars when I can just watch…Star Wars…the real thing…

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#1035034
Topic
The Star Wars Holiday Special 1978
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True story:

I remember watching the Star Wars Holiday Special when it originally aired on TV when I was three years old. About halfway through the show, my parents told me to go to my room because apparently my dog had just been hit by a car and they were bringing it inside and didn’t want me to see the bloody mess. I just pointed to the TV and was like, “but, Star Wars”; however, they still made me go to my room. So, as the evidence clearly shows…

the Star Wars Holiday Special is so bad that it made my dog commit suicide!

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#953907
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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People are free to enjoy the corrupted originals, the objectively bad prequels, or even the mediocre sequel. I’ll just sit here and remain smugly superior as I watch an inferiorly formatted copy of the original trilogy while thinking negatively of George Lucas…

[stares at his 60-inch plasma TV and shakes fist]

“You couldn’t even make the DVDs anamorphic, George?..What a Putz!”

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#948684
Topic
What is your personal canon?
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For me, canon is simply the original trilogy (Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi…Before the dark times…Before the special editions!).

In my mind, the rest of the movies, comics, books, video games, etc. just get filed away under Extended Universe. If there is some Star Wars-related enjoyment to be had with them, that’s all good and fine (but regardless of any of their merits or flaws, they really have little bearing on the original films, which compose the immutable core of the Star Wars universe).

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#937825
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Favorite line from the saga.
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“KHAN!!!”

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Or perhaps:


“Oh…I’m afraid the deflector shield will be quite operational…when your friends arrive…”

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#912130
Topic
If you saw Star Wars in 1977, what do you remember?
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I mostly just remember the giant garbage bag of popcorn that we brought with us in the back of our station wagon (I saw the original Star Wars at a drive-in theater and was only two years old at the time).

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#896899
Topic
Your latest star wars buys?
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Let’s see…my recent Star Wars purchases…

Well, I’m an avid thrifter, and I recently picked up a few things for pretty cheap at Goodwill:

  1. A couple of “Force Action” lightsabers for $2.99 each (these are the ones that can maim a child with the touch of a button…Hence, why they no longer make these…).
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  2. Talking plush Yoda (the mouth actually moves as he dispenses his wisdom, and all for the low, low price of $3.99; as a side benefit, his training will hopefully reduce my chances of maiming any children with the aforementioned “Force Action” lightsabers).
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  3. Star Wars MTT Droid Carrier Vehicle
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This is actually pretty cool (for a prequel toy). When you push a button, the carrier comes to life and actually deploys the droids (Roger, Roger!). Not too bad for $4.99 (especially since this seems to retail for over $150 bucks).

  1. 31" “My Size” Darth Vader (a bit pricey for $14.99, but he looks pretty cool standing on a shelf in my gameroom).
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  2. Hasbro Hero Series Millennium Falcon (this thing is absolutely HUGE and was only $9.99).
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    For some sense of scale, here it is next to my copy of Star Wars: Epic Duels (also purchased for $2.99 at Goodwill):
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Seems about right to me; say “Hi”, Chewbacca…“Rrraarhrrarahr”…

I also picked up a few things that weren’t from Goodwill:

  1. Star Wars: Risk (Black Series)
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This actually plays nothing like Risk (they just used the name for brand recognition). It actually plays more like a streamlined version of Star Wars: The Queen’s Gambit (if you know your board games) and only takes around 30 minutes to finish a game.

  1. And I pre-ordered the new Star Wars: Rebellion game from Fantasy Flight (over 150 detailed miniatures…yes, please!):
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    https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/11/3/star-wars-rebellion/

So…like I said…a few things…

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#893735
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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  1. The Empire Strikes Back (obviously)
  2. Return of the Jedi (even though there are some problematic bits (i.e., Ewoks), the throne room scenes just put it a bit above ANH for me, but it’s very close)
  3. Star Wars (although some may call this “A New Hope”, it’ll always be “Star Wars” to me)
  4. The Force Awakens (at least there aren’t any over-the-top horrible bits, like Jar Jar)
  5. The Phantom Menace (Jar Jar may be the worst thing in a galaxy far, far away, but Duel of the Fates is the best thing in all of the prequels…by far; heck, Duel of the Fates is better than anything in the Force Awakens as well)
  6. Revenge of the Sith (meh)
  7. Attack of the Clones (I truly…deeply…love you!–No, wait a minute, I actually hate you…worse than sand even (I don’t like sand. It’s coarse, rough and irritating and it gets everywhere))…

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#788472
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Would you want to see Anakin or Obi Wan in the new trilogy, portrayed by their PT actors?
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Not just no, but Hell No!

The new films are going to have a hard enough time overcoming the ill will that the prequels created.  No way should they actually insert actual PT remnants into the ST.

Ewan McGregor did a pretty good Alec Guinness impression in the PT (so I can't fault him for that), but there's no need to go inserting him into the newer films. 

And Hayden Christensen...really?...REALLY?!!!

 

 

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