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#715379
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Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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Well, that's interesting. I've never seen that actual camera before, but IMAX is traditionally shot in 70mm, and as far as I'm aware that hasn't changed. Basically, it means being shot in a higher resolution. It won't make a difference to a standard cinema projection, but will look a lot better on the big IMAX screen.

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#715353
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Practical vs Digital
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Okay, so here's what i took from the video linked.

1. Directors are asking practical effects artists to come into a project early, because they are trying to achieve a certain look. The entire production is then designed around this look, the effects are created, lit, filmed, and then someone in the studio is insisting that certain effects then get replaced by a digital creation to achieve completely the opposite look and it makes things look disjointed. The studio themselves are insisting the effect gets paid for twice.

2. When the practical effects guys are called in, they're only being given a three month lead time, when they really need AT LEAST six months. Doctor Who gets a three month pre-production, and it's a t.v. show, and arguably a lot more disposible than a Hollywood movie. Don't get me wrong, i love Doctor Who, but it's a sad day when it looks just as good, if not better than, The Amazing Spider-Man 2.

It does look like practical effects are deliberately being supressed. Obviously the video is biased, but since it's Woodruff and Gillis and they've worked in the industry for as long as I've been alive, I'm gonna give it some credence.

JEDIT Also, I'm gonna say, having looked at some behind the scenes articles and videos, The Hobbit is a really bad example. Yeah, some of us may prefer the physical stuff, but it would seem that Pete just wanted it to look the way it does. In fact, if he had his way he'd replace all the Orcs in the Rings trilogy with CGI, so be thankful THAT hasn't happened.

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#715249
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Practical vs Digital
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Okay, I'm confused. Was that in reply to my post? 'Cause i was asking a genuine question. I honestly don't know why the decision was reached to shoot the Hobbit in that way. Also, I didn't really think that anyone was saying that cgi is 'The Devil'. I was under the impression we all thought it was a tool. You know, like lighting, models and make up. You use it when you have to. Babylon 5, in fact, is an excellent example of this. As are most movies that David Fincher makes. The Hobbit movies are a prestige product, yet in their home versions looks cheap and nasty. This is not the only film i can point to this year that is like that. Step forward... well, step forward this years summer season. And any horror film released over the past five years. It's easy to pick specifically on a film like the Hobbit, when we all expected so much from it, but that's distracting from the fact that most Hollywood 'Prestige' pictures just look a bit cheap compared to a few years ago. CGI is not the problem. Apparently, if you watch the video, the studios are the problem, specifically the lead times that they are currently giving to these productions that are hampering the effects artists and not allowing them to deliver the quality that they want to deliver. Nobody cares about the medium used. Only that it looks good.

JEDIT I was replying to two posts up.

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#715228
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Practical vs Digital
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Think I've gotta go with Ryan on this one. Really, if shooting 48fps is gonna make things look cheap and/or rubbish whatever you do, don't use it. I had gathered from the initial tests before filming that people were already divided on the 'look', so why use it at all? And I am seriously asking the question, 'cause i don't know. Was it hubris on the side of Jackson, in an I'm right, you're wrong sort of way? Did the studio insist that it be filmed that way for the 'novelty'? Hmm...

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#715226
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Doctor Who
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Well, I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned. It's the BBC's annual Doctor Who related cock up! http://www.hypable.com/2014/07/07/doctor-who-scripts-leak-online/

 Yes, that's right. Someone's leaked the scripts for the first five episodes. The first episode is surprisingly good. That is all. (By that I mean, i will NOT be posting spoilers. You're gonna have to find it yourself if you want it. Torrent sites have them).

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#715143
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The YYYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAHHHH!!! I HAVE GOT GOOD NEWS THREAD!
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But that's the things that you saw that made your life a little bit better thread. This is the good news thread. Unless i missed something?

On topic; GOOD NEWS (Insert image of Farnsworth here), I talked to one of my best friends today for the first time in about a year and a half, on the Skype. Lovely to see both her, the husband and the kids, and catch up with events in 'The Hometown!'

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#714963
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The YYYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAHHHH!!! I HAVE GOT GOOD NEWS THREAD!
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Yeah, Yahoo! buying it was a surprise, for everyone. Even the industry analysts said the same. This forbes article, http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillbarr/2014/06/30/the-community-renewal-by-yahoo-is-a-glimpse-into-televisions-future/, however, says it shouldn't have been a surprise. Apparently, they've been building to this for a while, it's just that no-one noticed. I'm so jealous that you get to watch it all together, I've been watching from the beginning, so i never had that :(  How far have you got?

And yes, it's sad that so many great shows seem to get cancelled, but I'm surprised it lasted this long. NBC have never known what the show is, who it's core audiance is, or how to market it. In fact, NBC were ALWAYS the problem with this show getting a larger audience. I'm just glad Sony found another buyer.

JEDIT: Hitchikers radio play for free. Sweet!

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#650281
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Man of Steel - Your thoughts
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Bingowings said:Like World War Z (which is a perfectly watchable zombie film most of the time if you forget the title) it was okay until the final act when it just becomes a weird screensaver of buildings falling down and people flying into circular cloud shapes. If Supes could stop Zod at any time by snapping his neck wouldn't the wise thing be to do it before he knocks down a good chunk of a major city probably killing hundreds of thousands? I hope Kal-El found a super global repair kit thing too because that giant thumpy thing must have done a bit of damage. The final fight is nowhere near as exciting as Superman II (any version). I presume something was wiping out the Kryptonian colonists (Brainiac, The Eradicator??). They are a bit crap as god like advanced beings otherwise. Couldn't help but notice how Gallifreyan Krypton looked in the film (they even had the gene looms from the Carmel plan). Bearded Superman was bearded though. 
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#327490
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Super 8mm Digest Films and Features anyone else here collect them?
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Well i knew the exchange rate was bad, but 700 bucks for Jedi? That just sucks. I thought it was bad enough for it to be 375 pounds. Unfortunately, this is an expensive hobby, hence the fact that i have so many more cutdowns than features. We`re fairly lucky in the UK though, as the hobby seems to be very much alive- not only do we have the two major distributers here (Classic Home Cinema and Derran), we also have a lot of collecter and trader fairs during the course of the year, so bargains are always there to be had. Star Wars is always expensive, though. Mine cost me 420 pounds, and it`s one of the later run prints, so not even the best out there (in fact, i have a sneeking suspicion it was taken from the same print that the UK 1993 thx video and European thx laserdiscs were taken from, the red scartch is present over C3PO on the Tantive 4, and various other tell tale marks present themselves through the course of the movie. It`s not long after this time that Derrans master print broke, and no more copies were made).

And yes, i did make enquiries to Puggo last year, but he was busy with paying clients at the time and understandably declined to do the transfer, saying i could get into contact with him at a later date if i still wanted it done and he could find the spare time, but due to a combination of being both busy or just too lazy at various points of the year, i haven`t done so. I have, however, been trying to build my own telecine machine, but i don`t think the results from it would be as good as a workprinter as it is. Basically, i need to sit down and have a proper look at it and figure a few things out- it needs a new lens, the drive assembly needs work, needs to be more stable in threading the film through, but again it`s finding the time- the last time i did anything with it was back in March. And, of course, any further modifications are going to cost money that i don`t have.

And wow, you really know your Gordon. I`m actually surprised that there aren`t more of the serials available for free download, as i wouldn`t have thought the original material was copyrighted anymore. If you go to www.archive.org and search for Flash Gordon under moving images, they have only the one serial- Flash Gordon Conquers the Universe (is this Space Soldiers under a different name? I don`t have enough knowledge about the subject to know), available as one movie or it`s separate chapters. Maybe it`s just a case that decent versions of the others haven`t been located and uploaded yet. I hope you win your auction and that it is the serial you want, though.

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#327271
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Super 8mm Digest Films and Features anyone else here collect them?
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Hello. I collect 8mm digests and features. I have all of the star wars ones (naturally), including the German digests. I also have the Derran full length scope version of Star Wars. I almost got Empire, but it all fell through at the last minute, goddammit.

In terms of other digests, i can highly reccomend both Close Encounters (if you can find one that holds decent colour), and North By Northwest. The latter is my favourite hitchcock, and lends itself very well to the digest format- it`s really well edited, taking in all the best scenes of the movie, and feeling like a nice little 18 minute film, with all the major plot points in tact. Close Encounters is more of a whistle stop tour. It`s really fun to watch, but you can`t help feeling that you`ve been robbed of most of the film. Oh actually, the Jaws two part 800 foot digest is excellent aswell- the first part breezes quickly through the island based story, with the second part being exclusively the 'Three Men On A Boat' section. This is actually one of the best digests i`ve seen as it is basically all of the wheat and none of the chaff.

Other than that, i seem to have amased a large collection of Disney. An Italian print of Snow White full length, which i have yet to dub into English, along with the official digests of said film. The Brer Rabbit segment of Song Of The South (brilliant), Winnie the Pooh digests and Sleeping Beauty (the Disney feature ones, though, are segments rather than digests). I also have a couple of old school musical digests.

I want want want both Alien and Raiders- these are supposedly excellent, but always seem to sell for a lot whenever i see them come up. There`s also supposedly a load of superman digests that can be edited to form a 1200 foot cutdown of the movie, giving you a one hour version of the movie, i`d like to have those aswell.

I`d be very interested to know if anyone else has any reccomendations, or whether there are any other collecters. Oh, and i`m very jealous of Flash Gordon. Since  i started collecting, that`s one of the ones i`ve wanted. I love those old serials, have done since i was a boy, but have never seen all of the parts come up- it always seems to be the middle segments that come up for sale, and i wouldn`t want to buy them and then not be able to get hold of the beginning and end. Come to think of it, i haven`t bought any super 8 for a while. Maybe it`s time to go shopping again...

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#325961
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Phineasbg/ HIGHLANDER II: Extended Versions (Released)
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Hello. I firstly want to say thankyou very much for the hard work in bringing us these edits- they truly are amazing. I`ve been looking for a 'proper' version of highlander II since the original video release. And now i have three. The first time i watched the movie was a greek pirate vhs when it was still in theatres, and absolutely loved it. When they released the official version.. well, i couldn`t believe what they had done to it. Of course, i had a ray of hope in the renegade version, bought it, and was disappointed again. Not the version i wanted. So seriously, thank you very much.

Anyway, i don`t know if they`ll be any use to you, but i thought i might post the covers that i created when i downloaded the torrents. Some links:

preview (Special Zeist Edition)- [IMG]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3936/coverfinalszezm7.th.jpg[/IMG]

pack of files- http://rapidshare.com/files/134789151/HighlanderIIFinal.zip.html

The zip pack contains the covers in bitmap form, the original Paint Shop projects plus all the assets used. I have to say, there are no logos or details or anything in way of a description on the covers, which is why i have included the projects and assets. Should anyone wish to adapt the covers, they are more than welcome, but i really really like the way they look (these are, after all, the covers i have on my own versions). There is also a blank disc cover- i created it, but never finished it with logos or titles because the layout never worked. Since i don`t use labels on discs, i just gave up, but it`s there for anyone that wants to use it.

Personally, i could never get the cover layout to work with dvd logos- it always either looked too cramped, or just plain rubbish (of course, i do have an internal argument with myself quite often that they`re a bit sparse without them). It is, however, very easy to adapt the captions on the back to a description, i just never bothered. I`m currently working on a 'super duper boxset of all the versions' cover to fit wider dvd boxes, and will post that when finished.

Once again, thank you very much for gifting the world with these films. The extended zeist version is just awesome.

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#311203
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I'll give Episode One something...
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Aww, shucks, i remember it so well. I was 21, newly living in my own flat, working as a qualified fishmonger, and that month it came out was hot. Damn hot. A whole group of about ten of us, all school friends who had grown up with the trilogy (and each other), went to see it together. We spent all day trying to track down original trilogy lightsabers (£50 for a double bladed!) and managed to find the very last vader and luke sabers in Taunton, and bought the whole stock. They were £6 each. Bargain. And, frankly, i frickin` loved the movie. I saw it five times in the cinema, got a pirate copy, and me and my best mate proceded to watch it as much as we could, practically every day. I remember taking the piss out of the neimoidians every time they spoke, mocking Jar Jar for being a crap character, repeating lines as though we were the kids from South Park, shouting "Baby dawn" when Obi-Wan shouts "Noo" during the duel. We genuinely, genuinely loved the movie and could happily see past it`s faults and enjoy it for what it was. I still maintain to this very day that it was the last ever `proper` Star Wars movie. We could see past its faults because not only was it highly enjoyable, we believed that Lucas had a plan, that eps 2 and 3 were going to tie it all together really really well.
And then Clones happened.
The feeling of dread that i had going into that one, everyone saying it was a lot more like the original trilogy.. Well, i didn`t want it to be. I WANTED it to try to be different, to explore new avenues, be more like TPM. Coming out of that theatre, i was gutted. It was a cgi cartoon, Yoda being relegated to a sideshow, no character developement AT ALL, none of the promised conversations between Padme and Threepio as she fitted his coverings. But i digress..
Seriously, i thought TPM was an excellent overture to the rest of the saga, taking a very operatic stance to being a prequel (even if we had to suffer a fool). If it had only been backed up by the other two. The shame of it is that i can no longer enjoy TPM for what it was, and haven`t actually seen it since i bought the DVD. Maybe i should give it a try. But i`ll probably just be dissapointed
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#301180
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//Star Wars Begins\\: HD Version Now on Vimeo
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Hello. Can i just start by saying- David West Reynolds? That`s totally cool. Just to confirm the- documentary he was in was A Long Time Ago, the omnibus special shown to mark the release of Phantom. He can be seen walking around the Trogladite pits and telling of his Star Wars archeological expeditions. Now ,I actually have the article that he wrote on the Lost Cut for the British Official Star Wars mag and am currently in the process of scanning it in. It has a remarkably in depth description of the Lost Cut, with many photos taken from the dailies, and i was wondering if you would like me to send you a copy?
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#278647
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Please help me with histograms.
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Hello there. Okay, sorry that this is late, but- dammit- the colour `correction` on Star Wars is just bloody awful. And I`m still not happy with any of these scripts. First the link:

ANH scripts

Same as before- extract the folder to your C drive, so you have a root of "C:/ANH/". You now need to either overwrite the d2v file, or change the file and path in ANHSEvideo.avs to an already generated d2v.
What can i say? The 1985 histograms are now complete, and come in either "1985" or "1985,2" flavours. Both are crap. "1985" is the histograms from the original capture settings, "1985,2" are from a new video which uses a different white balance on capture. The first one is too red, the second too blue. The histograms i generated over the past week were too green. Frustrating.
As for the others, well, all have flaws- too pink, too green, too light. I wasn`t expecting any consistency, and wasn`t expecting any one script to solve most of the film`s problems, a la ESB (where you can select one script and then only have to correct a few scenes), but it looks like on this one you`re gonna need to switch between up to four versions at a time to get a consistent result.
There is a new script and a couple of plugins thrown in. "Whitebalance" uses the whitebalance filter stored in the plugin directory (this is called from script), and is remarkably effective. Any scene that comes after Tantive IV just looks wonderful with this script. The Tantive IV scenes have extra white balance supplied with apply range within the script, but i think this could be better handled by a more scene by scene use of the filter, applying different whitebalances in shorter bursts. Here`s how it looks so far:

avisource("C:\ANH\ANHSEvideo.avs")
loadplugin("C:\ANH\Plugins\WhiteBalance.dll")
whitebalance(r1=171,g1=179,b1=186)
applyrange(0,12675,"whitebalance",191,187,186)
applyrange(0,12675,"whitebalance",152,141,152)
converttoRGB32()

The range refers to the beginning of the movie till just after the stardestroyer fly over of tatooine, just before the cut to R2 and C3PO. Because i just want to get something posted "WhiteBalance", the script, isn`t yet finished.
So, more experimentation to be done, i`m currently rendering yet another set of full screen histo`s which should at least fix the overbright problem of 1985,2 and maybe tone down the blue, but for now here are the scripts and histograms so that you can see what each technique or histogram set does. I`m also going to write a script this afternoon that incorporates VD_Hue along with white balance, and this time really will have that posted tomorrow. Oh, and just out of interest, i`m going to rip TPM to my drive and see what the histograms do to that, and will post some piccies later. Enjoy!
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#277660
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Please help me with histograms.
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Yes, i will be doing the same for ANH and will post that tomorrow (or maybe even later on if i get the chance to do them today). However, there are a great many caveats to go with that one- the colour correction is all over the place, and i do believe that it`s going to require switching back and forth between versions for any final script to be successful. It also required, in my original tests, the use of white balance on certain sequences (that would be the Tantive IV bits). You`ll see what i mean when i post them.
Incidentally, for everyone out there, if you put DGDecode.dll in your avisynth plugin directory it circumvents the need to call it in any script that you write.
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#277409
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Please help me with histograms.
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Back once again, and as promised, this time i have scripts. For the moment, no Star Wars, just a focus on Empire since that`s what everyone seems to be working on. First the link:

Scripts

In order to use, extract the folder to your C drive so that it has a root of "C:/Empire/". You now have two choices; either load the DVD files into DGindex and save project into the Empire folder, overwriting the D2V file within, or simply open the "ESBsevideo" script, and replace the filename within to that of an already generated D2V file. You should now be able to just load any of these scripts into VirtualDub, but the comparison script is the one you`ll want to be looking at first. All of these scripts have been level corrected.
Now a couple of notes. When using the 1990 histograms (which i notice today are mislabelled within their directory), if invoking the YV12, you must use a setting of "false,true,true"-affecting the Y,U and V levels respectively-or the Y level will be too high, and you will achieve a bloom affect- the gamma is too high! Also, if using the RGB histograms on their own, DON`T use the matrix command within "ConverttoRGB32()". The default matrix is just right for this conversion, and using "pc.709" throws both the levels and the colours all over the place. The only reason it`s used after the YUV conversions is that this keeps it within the same pallette and gives a better all round colour.
In the Histogram directory`s uploaded yesterday, you`ll notice some labelled SEDVDafter(insert ending here) These were originally intended to ease the transitions from palette to palette, but i originally found that these can have some detrimental effects (blooming, pallette change, oversaturation etc.) and don`t seem to be worth using. These are not used in the comparison script, or indeed any of the scripts, but please feel free to experiment with them, that is, after all, why they`re there.
Oh, and it was mentioned earlier about the washed out look- i do believe that it can be sorted to a degree by changing the gamma levels; either "colorYUV(Gamma_y=0.7)", before using any colourlike filters, or during levels "levels(36,0.7,230,0,255)". 0.7 is only a guess, you will need to play to get it to work correctly. Once again, i hope that these help (in fact, i hope that they work). Any questions, feel free to ask.
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#277172
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The Empire Strikes Back - The Vintage Edit (Released)
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Thundercracker- unfortunately, at the moment, i have no suggestions for optimal usage. Truth be told i only rediscovered the histograms today. Just to compound matters, i`ve deleted my original scripts (annoying, since i`d written a script that put all different versions side by side for comparison). It`s getting a bit late here in england now, but what i`ll do is this; when i get home from work tomorrow, i`ll write up a quick batch of scripts to replicate the side by side comparison , so that people can a least see what each histogram does to each video and see which produces the desired effect for each scene, and i will post these into the "please help me with histograms" thread in the technical discussions board, since that seems the right place to continue this. I`ll also prat around with a few things that i want to try. The basic scripts will be posted tomorrow evening (english time), when i`ll probably have quite a few notes to go with them.
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#277124
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The Empire Strikes Back - The Vintage Edit (Released)
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Wow, that`s just.....awesome. Simply stunning.
Er, okay, first off i`m sorry for having been gone for so long. I really don`t want to go into too much detail, but unfortunately the real world got in the way and my project had to be shelved for a while, and only over the past week have i managed to start reviewing the work done to see what i can use. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on you point of view...), the nature of my own project has now changed, since in between times i`ve managed to acquire the Derran Super 8mm scope presentation of Star Wars, and Empire should be on it`s way. Of course, not relevant to this discussion, but still.
Anyway, pleased to see that the original intent of the project is still alive. Gotta say that what you`ve put up so far just looks amazing. Anyway, to the point of my post. I thought you might find these useful:

Histograms For Star Wars and Empire

Contained in this zip are all histograms that i generated for Star Wars and Empire. Sorry, nothing for Jedi since i never got that far, but i can generate these over the next week if you wish, since i have now built a secondary computer specifically for capturing video. The histograms are seperated into years- the 1985 directory represents the full screen versions already used (although star wars 1985 is currently restricted to RGB since i`ve lost the yuv versions of this. I`m currently recapturing to regenerate these), all others are taken from widescreen versions from the relevent years. The thinking behind this is that different histograms may be usable for different scenes (such as those containing explosions and sabres). I think that the best way to do this would be to create scripts for the different histograms, trim to the scene you want, then import that script to your core script as an avi (avisource("yourscript.avs")) and use combinations of trim and aligned splice to put it all together. You might also be able to work around the `applyrange` command for this, but i haven`t put much thought into that idea.
Also contained in this zip is Hue.vdf (zipped seperately). This, in conjuction with `applyrange` might provide a better solution, since you`re dealing with desaturated/oversaturated sequences. This filter works by desaturating/oversaturing different colour channels, and can be used on blue/red/green/cyan/magenta/yellow channels. The best thing to do would be to put the filter in your virtualdub plugin directory, and use that to find the optimum settings before setting in avisynth. To import into avisynth, here is the function:

############################################
# Hue/Saturation/Intensity by Donald Graft #
# #
# there is a version of this filter called #
# "Tweak11 by Donald Graft" which can be #
# used in Avisynth (directly in YUV-space) #
############################################

function DG_FloatToInt(f) { return round((default(f,1.0) - 1) * 100) }

function VD_Hue(clip clip, int "hue", bool "preserve_luma", float "sat", float "inten",
\ bool "r", bool "g", bool "b", bool "y", bool "c", bool "m")
{
LoadVirtualdubPlugin("\hue.vdf", "_VD_Hue")
hue = default(hue, 0)
sat = DG_FloatToInt(sat)
inten = DG_FloatToInt(inten)
flags = (default(r,true)?1:0)+(default(g,true)?2:0)+(default(b,true)?4:0)
\ +(default(y,true)?8:0)+(default(c,true)?16:0)+(default(m,true)?32:0)
return clip._VD_Hue(hue, default(preserve_luma,false)?1:0, sat, inten, flags)
}

To use, simply copy and paste into your script editor, put the filters` directory after the line "loadVirtualDubPlugin", and save in your avisynth plugin directory as VD_Hue.avsi (the suffix is important). It can then be called in avisynth with "VD_Hue(Sat=0,Hue=0,preserve_luma=true/false,inten=0,r=true/false,g=true/false,b=true/false,y=true/false,c=true/false,m=true/false"). Use true/false to decide which colour channels are affected, and obviously change the 0 values to the values found within virtualdub. Since different channels will need different values, you will need to call it more than once- you can only use one value for sat/hue/inten for each time you call the filter- hence the need to use the true/false command. Oh, and don`t forget that in order to use this filter in avisynth, you need to be in the RGB32() colour range, but since this conversion is already a by product of the histogram command that you`ve used, you should already be there. This will also require either `apply range` or cutting and joining scenes, since you only want it to apply to specific sequences.
I hope that this has been of some use. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask, as i should be here now permanantly. Oh, and as mentioned i`ll be more than willing to generate Jedi histograms if you like, although i don`t have the 1985 fullscreen laserdisc for this one, so it`ll be limited to the 1990, 1993 and 1997 versions. Oh and before this rather lengthy post finishes, i just want to say one more time: amazing. Simply amazing.
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#253514
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Info: Auto-correction from SE colours to GOUT colours (lots of information)
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Hello again. You know, i`d never noticed the problem with han`s jacket, but now that it`s been mentioned i can see what the problem is with the asteroid sequence- a lack of blue. I`d never noticed han`s jacket because it`s actually that off grey colour throughout the movie, almost but not quite blue, and i found it difficult to put my finger on what exactly was wrong. But it would appear to have been another victim of the `blue cast`. Hmmm. So i`m going to try a few more ideas based on ocp`s comments, but it`ll take a few days. I`ve captured the 1997 editions from laserdisc this morning and am writing the histograms for that, and i`ll be capturing the 1991 vhs widescreen edition tomorrow and performing the same operation. The theory is that i`ll take it back to the 1997 edition which only suffers the blues while the footage stays on Hoth, and then take that corrected footage to go back to 1991. At least that`s the theory.
Another idea is to import Gradation Curves into avisynth and try to eliminate the blue cast that way, and then writing a new histogram for the SE for the colour correction, but i seem to remember not getting many good results with that filter within virtual dub. Again, hmmm. But if anybody else has any suggestions then i`m open to them. The final version NEEDS to be perfect, so these issues have to be sorted.
So it`s going to take a couple of days to get any more results, but i will be reporting back when the experiment is finished. But because i live in England, today is Lost day, since i have to download it of that there intraweb, and i`m going to be spending today making a DVD each for two close personal friends who are more addicted to it than i. If i go to work tomorrow without them, i`ll be turned to stone by their stares. Especially if i then go on to say that i`ve already seen it....
Oh, and INv8r_ZIM, i was in your position a couple of years ago, but Don`t Panic, it`s a lot easier than it seems. I now can`t imagine life without AviSynth, if only for basic cleaning before serving a video into my favoured editor of whichever moment it is (especially on DVD, since it works natively in YV12). Filters can be applied on a frame by frame basis using a command called applyrange(), or by simply cutting the video into segments and combining with the comand alignedsplice(). The Doom9 forums are your friend here though, since a lot of people on there have far more experience than i have.