For my measly part, I will show my children only the Despecialized Editions until they reach the age of majority, burn the NJVC and vanilla DEED rar files to M-Disc, put them in my safe deposit box and will them to my children.
Until watching the Despecialized ANH two weeks ago for the first time in over 20 years, I was duped by the “Han Shot First” mythos. I had totally forgotten that ONLY Han shot and damn is it satisfying.
… but I cannot help but think Gareth Edwards was paying MAJOR homage to Spaceballs with Rogue One. There are so many callbacks its hard to count them all. From the obvious like the planet shield and shieldgate to more subtle elements like the shield code scene (I was on the edge of my seat waiting for “1-2-3-4-5”). There’s more, but I have to go back and think again.
So I might have exaggerated juuusst a bit on my assessment of how many Spaceballs callbacks there were. I went back and re-watched the movie again and in addition to the two major (and very obvious) callbacks mentioned above, I identified the following:
I’m pretty sure Gareth Edwards is a pretty big Spaceballs fan.
No. I’ve got to say no.
Seems like a waste of effort to me.
Star Wars. But Harry Potter does share some interesting similarities. And to be brutally honest I wish Lucas had followed Rowling’s example and trusted the audience to grow with the series. I’m amazed at the depth, nuance, and darkness in the Deathly Hallows - especially when compared to the wide-eyed innocence of Philosopher’s Stone. JK clearly trusted her audience to mature and take it all on board as things got progressively heavier. I wish George had taken the same route with ROTJ.
Dammit. Well said.
Dammit.
Anyway, Star Wars and Harry Potter share the same villain: Snoke aka Voldemort.
Crossover episode!!
I keep seeing this thread and have avoided it, but I just can no longer resist. I realize this will bump it back up to the top, but…
Was this a serious question?
Hope that clears some things up. I’m typing this at work so I may have skipped some things.
That works perfect for me. Thank you!
I did some P2P stuff over mIRC about a decade ago which worked in a similar fashion, but predated torrenting. Watched lots of Stargate SG-1 that way. I never really had much trouble getting what I was seeking, but I can see how it could be a problem. It’s definitely a two-way street that demands reciprocity.
He’s looking at the spaceship parked above him.
Right, exactly (actually while evoking the “I sense something, but don’t have a face to express emotion”). Not the same thing as snarky “look back over the shoulder while delivering a zinger” deal.
DeckardKatarn said:
I could be wrong, but I think you’d be hard-pressed to find many, if any, Star Wars references in shows like Seinfeld…No Star Wars references, but Star Trek…
Yea, I feel like Star Trek had much more momentum coming out of the 80s and into the 90s until 97-99. Star Trek was a consistent presence in the cinema throughout the 80s and you no less than three concurrent TV series during a period in the 90s, so it makes sense that for what little there was, you’d see more Trek references than Star Wars references. Also, Trek predates Star Wars by a decade, so folks who grew up on that would have started becoming influential in the 90s too.
Then Star Trek died.
Can someone ELI5 or post a link to same for stuff like “Blutopia” and “MySpleen”. I get it that they’re private torrent tools, but beyond that I don’t understand (and I don’t torrent either, but may have to start to get some of the fan edits I want). What are these “rules” of which you speak?
I’m not going to go back and read all 3,995 posts in this thread, so I apologize if what I’m about to say has been said before. I loved Rogue One. I saw it two days after Carrie collapsed and one day before she passed. I cried.
I really loved all the subtle nostalgia as opposed to the slegehammer-to-your-fucking-temple nostalgia of TFA and I really came here to say this…
My feeling on this has only increased with subsequent viewings, but I cannot help but think Gareth Edwards was paying MAJOR homage to Spaceballs with Rogue One. There are so many callbacks its hard to count them all. From the obvious like the planet shield and shieldgate to more subtle elements like the shield code scene (I was on the edge of my seat waiting for “1-2-3-4-5”). There’s more, but I have to go back and think again.
One thing that annoyed me though is during the Mustafar scene. No, not the “choke on your ambitions” line itself, but rather how Vader had his head cocked up-and-back. It just seemed like such non-Vader body language and motion. I know they changed actors for Vader in Rogue One, but I cannot imagine David Prowse portraying Vader with that kind of motion.
Yes, first-world problems and major nerd nitpicking. Sue me.
I went through a pretty strong ST:TNG phase in the mid-to-late 90s (and I will still stop on BBC America whenever I see its on), but Star Wars was always there in the background. I would agree with other respondents that it wasn’t a big thing in the early 90s - it was just sort of there. Once the SEs were released and Lucas announced production on the PT, the pop culture juggernaut that we know today kicked into afterburner and hasn’t really let up.
I recall pumping a metric shit-ton of hours into Tie Fighter (on 3.5" floppy!), Dark Forces, and Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II - one of the first great multi-player experiences on the internet.
I also think that because people who grew up on the films are now adults has a lot to do with the superfandom it has today. They’re buying tickets and making their kids watch these movies who want to buy toys and dress up for Halloween…rince, repeat.
This. A thousand times over, this. The whole “fly your freak flag” thing that’s so en vogue today was definitely not a thing in 90s. If you were a nerd, you were a dork and treated as such. Mainstream primetime shows didn’t reference Star Wars and other nerd-culture stuff every five minutes like they do today. But now, the children of the 80s and 90s are producing content, especially with the internet, which is why you have mainstream stuff like Family Guy and The Big Bang Theory. The degree to which Star Wars permeates all forms of media these days is absolutely incredible. I could be wrong, but I think you’d be hard-pressed to find many, if any, Star Wars references in shows like Seinfeld and Friends.
Q: …or insults that I should consider?
A: Hmmm. Well, I guess if you really want an insult, I could say you are a nerd, but I clearly live in a glass house, so throwing those types of stones would probably be kind of foolish on my part. 😉
solkap, thank you so much for the thoughtful and detailed reply. I am going to reference it often.
I may also look into modifying some of the cases/covers to add the “bonus” features details of the NJVC compilation to the inside cover and the words “Despecialized Edition”. Do you know if I would need an additional font pack or something to use with Nuance PowerPDF (which I presume will have some capability to edit these adequately).
They should just make the trailer the only special feature on the DVD/BD release and never release it anywhere else.
Approved.
Maybe they play the trailer before the movie itself.
“Bold. Stylistic.”
“Subverting expectations.”
Phildesfr, your other post with this artwork mentioned that you removed the words “Despecialized Edition” from the case-covers and disc artwork at some point along the way. Do you still have those versions available?
Outstanding work, by the way. Your artwork is incredible.
Is anyone aware of any other artwork for discs and case-covers specific to the NJVC set other than what is posted in the original post of this thread?
Specifically, I’m looking for artwork to print on the “bonus” disc.
I just watched the Despecialized Edition for the first time tonight and it was an incredible and emotional experience. A film I haven’t seen in over 20 years.
During the viewing, I became overwhelmed with the desire to follow it immediately with Rogue One - which I think is an incredible film. It keeps me right in the sweet spot of the Empire/Rebellion conflict. The Empire is as basically as strong as it will ever get and the fragile Alliance scores a decisive blow. So for my own personal re-watching experience, I expect my order going forward to be:
I would not strongly advocate for this to be the viewing order for anyone completely new to the saga, but for a seasoned viewer it is a good experience. However, if you ever find yourself sharing the saga with someone who would really like to know how the Alliance got the plans that were the key plot device of A New Hope then this order could really work from a world-building perspective too.
Finally, I could be persuaded to start someone with Rogue One IF I knew the individual quite well and knew they would likely be turned off by the “dated” feel of a relatively low-budget 1977 movie. That being said, having not watched ANH through in at least a decade or more, I was both surprised and excited just how much the Despecialized Edition really, really holds up in 2018.
I am loathe to post a new topic for fear of getting heckled off the board, but I could sure use some guidance from much wiser and experienced members. Here’s where I’m at:
I’ve acquired the original DEEDs as well as the NJVC DEEDs (plus bonus discs) and test burned several of them using my new Pioneer burner. They work great, so no issues there with the stuff that really matters. From Amazon, I bought a spindle of 25GB Verbatim BD-Rs (branded surface), a few 50GB Verbatim singles (branded), a Verbatim 50GB spindle (printable surface - evidently sourced from Japan), and five 100GB Verbatim M-Discs (going to burn the RARs onto these and stash them in my safe deposit box).
Now I would like to create a couple decent-looking physical/presentation copies that I can watch myself and loan out to friends and therein lies where I’ve hit a bit of a wall.
The artwork and physical construction part of this is a bit overwhelming, to say the least. First I need to find some artwork that I really like and then get it in a format that can be printed onto the discs. I’m thinking that I will take my chosen design to a local print shop (FedEx Office, Office Depot, or a small business?) and see if they will print it onto the discs. I don’t want to buy a disc-compatible printer myself for such a small volume job. I’m not ready to jump into slipcases just yet. I am artistically illiterate - I couldn’t draw you a stick figure and make it look like a stick figure. I’m looking for something that retains some of the original theatrical poster artwork and says “Despecialized Edition” on it - I like that.
And then there’s the issue of the cases. At the moment, I really like the idea of putting these in a Blu-ray case (blue colored with the logo) because, well, they’re Blu-rays (my OCD likes that), but most posts talk about these “Criterion cases” which to me look more like clear DVD cases.
Questions:
Thanks in advance for the help.
Sorry, but this is the kind of thing that triggers my OCD…
Why is there a dash between Han & Solo in the title of this thread?
Because it’s a solo movie. Not a Solo movie.
Ah. Got it. I still need a Zanex, but I got it.
I’m honestly a bit surprised they didn’t do an Ashoka movie or something more contemporary.
Who?
Because I’m new, I’m not sure if you’re serious or screwing with me, but if your point is that I mispelled her name, then yes, I mispelled her name. It has been corrected. My apologies.
I think ray may have been joking with his ‘who?’ - in that a few on here don’t follow the EU or animated series closely - so likely wouldn’t know who that character is.
I think…
I don’t know who that is and I’m surprised to hear that someone would expect a movie about that character over Han.
I think I’m further from the fan base that I thought…Ahsoka Tano is
I guarantee you ray doesn’t care. I really don’t either. I know everyone says the cartoon gets better as it goes along, and maybe that’s true, but I could barely finish season 1.
Yea, I hear you. I treat the cartoons like a business transaction - I’m there to get what I need which is the bits and pieces that feed into the larger canon. There’s a lot of superfluous shit in The Clone Wars series. Entire multi-episode arcs that are just random battles, droids runamok, and a LOT of clone porn. But there are key episodes and arcs that really flesh out details of the larger canon and saga all the way through the PT, OT, and ST. For example, I consider the Mortis Trilogy in season 3 to be the single most important three episodes of content outside the films themselves. Not only do they almost single-handedly redeem the prequels in terms of illuminating the underpinnings of Anakin’s fall and ostensible role as “the chosen one”, they also almost fully illustrate the Light Side, the Dark Side, and the neverending struggle for Balance that has consumed the Galaxy for generations upon generations. Not only do these themes permeate the prequels and to a bit lesser extent, the OT, they are directly reflected in The Last Jedi between Rey, Kylo, and Luke. Yoda’s Journey at the end of season 6 greatly fleshes out the concept of the “living” force that allows particularly accomplished force wielders to transcend death and become “force ghosts”. Qui-Gon was the first to achieve this feat and those few episodes are pretty much the main reason why a certain character channeling Zeus in The Last Jedi doesn’t bother me in the least and in fact, makes sense.
I’ve only watched The Clone Wars through once, and I won’t likely do it again, but I am going to put together a list of the essential episodes that feed the most into the larger canon. I’ll post it here when I finish it.
Rebels is more “childish” if you will and doesn’t lend nearly as much to the larger canon. It’s fun mostly for seeing a few cool backstory elements such as how Wedge became a pilot in the Rebellion.
EDIT: Say what you will about Disney (and there’s a lot to be said), but Kathleen Kennedy and the Lucasfilm Story Group are clearly running a tight ship now when it comes to the canon. Executed properly, I expect that the Han Solo movie will tie together a lot of existing storylines, if only with a brief line here or there (ah-la the “obsolete landspeeders” quote in Rogue One). The Kessel run, Chewie’s journey after the Clone Wars to his life-debt to Han, Lando & the Falcon, etc.
First off, thank you so much to everyone involved with this. I’ve been looking for a way to get these for a while. My blurays look nice, but it hurts to see all the added bullshit every time. Only problem I’m having is download speed. I’m working my way through the Empire links and they are going anywhere from 5-15kb/s at the moment. I tried a link for ROTJ and that one was much better. Is it just a case of the Empire links getting pounded, or would upgrading to mega pro help my speed at all?
That is much slower than I saw. Most links are running 7-8 MB/s or maybe a few MB/s and take only a moment or two to finish (and I’m connecting through a VPN). I don’t have a Mega account at all and don’t intend to create one. My ISP connection is rated at 75 MB/s. I am not using a downloader, just my browser.
Every once in a while, I would hit a link that would just drag ass, but those were few and far between.
Sorry, but this is the kind of thing that triggers my OCD…
Why is there a dash between Han & Solo in the title of this thread?
Because it’s a solo movie. Not a Solo movie.
Ah. Got it. I still need a Zanex, but I got it.
I’m honestly a bit surprised they didn’t do an Ashoka movie or something more contemporary.
Who?
Because I’m new, I’m not sure if you’re serious or screwing with me, but if your point is that I mispelled her name, then yes, I mispelled her name. It has been corrected. My apologies.
I think ray may have been joking with his ‘who?’ - in that a few on here don’t follow the EU or animated series closely - so likely wouldn’t know who that character is.
I think…
I don’t know who that is and I’m surprised to hear that someone would expect a movie about that character over Han.
I think I’m further from the fan base that I thought…
Ahsoka Tano is Anakin’s padawan apprentice as designated by Yoda and the Jedi Council in an ill-advised attempt to reign in his fear, immaturity, and recklessness during the height of The Clone Wars. He calls her “Snips” and they become quite close. She is canon and is a prominent protagonist in The Clone Wars animated series (canon). She also returns as a key protagonist in the Rebels animated series (also canon) and they recently released a canon novel about her.
The prequel movies suck ass, but The Clone Wars animated series, especially the exposition generated by Anakin’s interaction with a padawan apprentice partially redeems the films. They are still dumpster fires, but the story of Anakin’s fall makes much more sense if you see The Clone Wars. Unlike the films, Anakin is rightfully portrayed as a confident, competent leader who is so riddled with fear and regret that he eventually cannot resist Palpatine and the seduction of the Dark Side. This comes across in a believable way instead of the ham-fisted nonsensical entitled little shit way depicted in the films.
Ahsoka has become a major contemporary fan favorite in the strong-female archetype typical of Star Wars. Like you, I am more of an OT fan - that’s my rock - and I definitely want to see a Han Solo origin story, but looking objectively at where the franchise is in 2017/2018, I’m a bit surprised from a business perspective that they decided to go with a young Han Solo story. He’s practically a god to our generation, but not so much to the generations that grew up on the prequels, The Clone Wars, and the sequel trilogy.
Like I said before, a young Han Solo movie released anywhere from 1985 to the perhaps the early 2000s would have absolutely blown up the box office, but I am skeptical, regardless of how good the film is, of how much this movie will draw in 2018. Will it make a shit-ton of money, yes, of course, but I’m not expecting it to come anywhere close to Rogue One or The Last Jedi. And that’s completely irrespective of the apparent difficulties in developing the film which only add to the steepness of the hill it was already facing.
EDIT: I am also concerned that it could “tarnish” the franchise by unleashing a tsunami of criticism if it doesn’t put up Rogue One or The Last Jedi numbers. There’s already a risk of audience fatigue setting in with Star Wars and a poor showing (especially if it turns out to also be a poor film) won’t help in the least.
EDIT2: I think it could be debated that a Boba Fett stand-alone movie would have broader contemporary appeal in 2018 than a Han Solo origin story. I’m not advocating for this position, just saying an argument could be made.
I’m pretty new, so if it’s implied where you’re uploading it, I don’t know. Can you PM me?
And if it’s this “MySpleen” place, it would seem I am SOL.
Sorry, but this is the kind of thing that triggers my OCD…
Why is there a dash between Han & Solo in the title of this thread?
Because it’s a solo movie. Not a Solo movie.
Ah. Got it. I still need a Zanex, but I got it.
I’m honestly a bit surprised they didn’t do an Ashoka movie or something more contemporary.
Who?
Because I’m new, I’m not sure if you’re serious or screwing with me, but if your point is that I mispelled her name, then yes, I mispelled her name. It has been corrected. My apologies.