Darth Robin

ElectricTriangle said:

Yep!

Makes sense. Thanks.

So you’re saying some prints would have had the three unique shots and some would not? (in 1981)

Something just struck me: So the version of the movie that had these three unique VFX shots is the limited release version from may 1977, so that’s different from the wide release version, then there’s the 1981 version with the new opening crawl, but these three unique VFX shots from the limited release shots showed up on the 1980’s home video releases, but those had the 81 crawl. So where those VFX shots in the theatrical 1981 cut?

I was under the impression that the the early 80’s VHS releases, prior to the 1985 mix was(aside from cropping) accurate to the 1981 theatrical version, but is that not the case? Are they in fact a mix of the 1981 and May 1977 limited release cuts?

Ok I just watched 13las’s (a.k.a tommy blasé) video on changes and he explained this and he had better quality clips to demonstrate. So the temple exterior shot is apparently very slightly out of synk, you can see it looking at the rebel soldiers moving in the shot, and there’s a blue streak for a split second that was the likely reason they changed it.

The X-Wings taking of shot apparently had a cloud removed for the wide release version but honestly I can’t see it so I’ll just take his word for it. lol Honestly how do people notice these things?

That’s a result of the scanning process though isn’t it?

I just watched the video and while I didn’t disagree with everything he said, like I think when he talked about that Red Letter Media video he kept going back to and The People vs George Lucas, he made very good points and rightly pointed out their many wrong and childish statements. When he went into defending specific special edition changes I agreed with some points, disagreed with others.

All that being said though, the the whole point he’s making with the video is nonsense. The idea that just because it’s Georges movies we don’t deserve to have the original cuts is ridiculous. And so is his assertion that fans wouldn’t be happy even if we got the theatrical cuts in HD because we wouldn’t think it looks good enough, huh, this whole forum disproves that. I also think he was really unfair to Harmy and misrepresented what he’s doing. I like the point that G&G-Fan made earlier in this tread: it’s hypocritical of him to criticize Peter Jackson’s LOTR 4K’s while at the same time chastising star wars fans for doing the same with star wars.

pittrek said:

Team Negative 1 on top, the original version on bottom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt42jUDLAAE

What is supposed to be the difference in the last two shots? Looks the same to me.

Just wondering if anyone here knows the history behind this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw1gkNd6Z_8

Who made this video? When? What sources were used? Is Darth Jar Jar the original uploader or a reuploader? I feel like I saw this earlier than 2015 but I’m not sure.

Harmy said:

24000/1001

Thanks.

Darth Robin said:

Harmy said:

You probably just need to set the framerate to 23.976 manually.

Oh, I see the option now. Thank you. And thank you for making v.3.0. It looks amazing.

Sigh, seems it wasn’t so simple after all. I didn’t see an option for 23,976 so I picked 24 instead, I figured it didn’t matter, but now the audio is out of synk and I can’t find an option for 23,976 in TSMuxer, so I’m back in square 1 and still need help I’m afraid.

Harmy said:

You probably just need to set the framerate to 23.976 manually.

Oh, I see the option now. Thank you. And thank you for making v.3.0. It looks amazing.

Harmy said:

Darth Robin said:

So cool to see this finnished. I downloaded the 1080p version. I’d like to put this on a blu-ray disc, what software do you all use for that?

tsMuxer is your best bet - it will create a blu-ray iso for you, which you can then burn with any disc burning software. The encode is already BD compatible, so it’s a simple remux and should be pretty fast. If you throw out any audio tracks you don’t need, you should be able to fit it on a single layer BD.

tsMuxer doesn’t seem to work for this one, it just tells me “non standard fps value do not supported for pgs streams”

I’ve tried with so many different softwares at this point but I can’t find one that works.

So cool to see this finnished. I downloaded the 1080p version. I’d like to put this on a blu-ray disc, what software do you all use for that?

I love the site caps-a-holic.com that lets you choose different releases and compre frames switching in between them quickly. It’s peen particurlarly intressting to compare the 2011 blu-rays to the 2020 blu-rays this way but of cource this site only has screenshots of official releases and I’d love to include TN1’s Star Wars 4K releases in this comparison so I was wondering if there is any sites that lets me compare all three versions and I can flip in between the frames quickly?

I’m supriced no one has linked this one yet, this is one of my favorite original trilogy trailers.

This is the trailer for the 1985 re-release of Return of the Jedi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4YTkP2C1uA

Does anyone know what the total runtime of all ROTS deleted scenes are? I heard somewhere that the rough cut was 4 hours long. I’m curous abut how much of that has been released.

Are those the same costumes that were used in the movie?

MattMahdi said:

The States. Near Seattle.

In that case, there’s something you need to know abut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jiyYi24NuU

MattMahdi said:

Is the 4K re-release available individually yet?

I’m planning to buy it when it is, just to have this track, but I haven’t seen it in stores.

Depends. Where do you live?

Somebody explain this:

https://youtu.be/eZCo_hZLyh0

The recent re-release has it included.

Oh I’ve seen it, several times in fact. It is indeed exellent. But didn’t that use footage from the 1997 version, not the original version?

It’s at 12:38.

It was in widescreen though. Isn’t the making of star wars 4:3?

The second episode of Disney Gallery: The Mandalorian features a lot of clips from the OT. Seems to be SE footage mostly but they included the original death star explotion. I wonder what the source for this clip was.