HAPPY 30TH BIRTHDAY TO 'THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK' :D
Here's a tribute video I made a while back - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpKq022aXD4
Oh and I hope your Birthday went well Ady, I already posted the greeting on the big day via Facebook :D
Bingowings said:
Redlettermedia has started putting up his AOTC review (same style so if that offended you before it will again).
But there are some interesting points there which may help fan editors.
I'm so glad I read your post yesterday and caught this first part of the review (including the rest of it which is thankfully still up), so thanks Bingo :) That guy is hilarious. Stupid Cartoon Network have removed the first video for some crappy reason. I'd like to say that part 5 of the review is my favourite (the one where he talks about Anakin and Padmé's love for one another and how she fell for him).
Anyway I was wondering if we should add a small vision of Anakin's mother early on in the film before we cut to Anakin on that balcony in Coruscant. But it should be a vision that doesn't show her in actual pain because we could then add one as he's dreaming about her torture on Naboo, like he dreams about Padme's death in ROTS. It would add more of a kind of emotional bond rather than just being told about that she's in pain or that he keeps seeing his mother in his dreams.
Oh and I turn 20 today, bye bye teenage years :(
Bingowings said:
My stab at a less obviously green Endor :
'I'm out of it for a little while, and everybody gets delusions of grandeur....'
Lol, just kidding Bingo, I just wanted to use that line from the movie that we're all anxious to see re-visited.
This is fantastic and I love how there's a really nice view of the planet. Further evidence that the original still image looks visually drab. At this point the space battle is still towards the right hand side, but how close and far-spread should any craft be from the actual throne room? I know there's a shield still protecting the station at this point, but maybe Luke sees some X-Wings and other rebel craft smash into the invisible shield or something - and depending on how far away the explosions are from the throne room - they could be reflected upon Luke. What can be said about this? But wow that image is awesome and I'd love to see more of your Endor waterfall idea - and if I ever get the chance to do a video mock-up can I do one of your Endor waterfall idea?
Angel, great job as always :)
I've been tracking the beehive of activity and you've all got some awesome ideas. It's hard for me to come up with some more stuff tbh. I've had one of the weirdest days of my life too. I'll come back tomorrow, refreshed with some constructive ideas. And if not, then I'll post something interesting by this weekend.
Just have normal random explosions - it should look ace. ROTS has some awesome explosions of ships - we should look at that for some reference. More Star Wars-like that way :)
Should we make the video less static in the last pic? Otherwise awesome job Angel.
The guy's name is Endicott...oh wait... :D
vaderios said:
Darth Chronus said:
Darth Solo said:
Cum again?
(I think Angel knows what I mean - and Angel it's what we talked about on MSN; in fact you were even practically still chatting away to me when a certain lady wanted satisfying).
Carbon monoxide.. is odorless and colorless.. The chick will not know what hit her..
-Angel
Ew. I am a gentleman.
TV's Frink said:
I thought this was the ESB and ROTJ wishlist, not the Darth Chronus and Angel Wishlist.
;-)
Hoyven Glaven! I apologise for the chatting and the talking and the HEY that hurts talk. :D
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Oh and Bingo, about that action movie thing with Han running away from the flames - what about smoke? Just a bit of smoke :)
Darth Solo said:
Cum again?
Dayum! I've heard that word far too often this week. I'm exhausted and don't wanna hear it for a while, lol. (I think Angel knows what I mean - and Angel it's what we talked about on MSN; in fact you were even practically still chatting away to me when a certain lady wanted satisfying).
Anyway that thing that Bingo did with the Grand Moff was cool; always wanted to see a Chiss in the films but it probably won't happen. Those 'puppy eyes' were nice comedic touches, lol, so thanks for the laugh Angel. Lol at the 'Indiana Solo' too. Lovely stuff again buddy - oh and that palace pic sure looks nice :D
I'm wondering whether we should have a brief X-Wing display at the end (ala. the real world 'Red Arrows') - or is that bordering on extra cheesiness?
Good job - I think Palpy should get all the red-screen porn he needs. After all he is gonna die pretty soon, lol.
He should also tell Vader off for not alerting him of his presence
That's great Angel - maybe we should have something coming out of the ground that's projecting that holo - and when he turns to face Vader he can switch it off and the thing that's projecting it can retract back into the floor or something :)
Good job on your recent mock-ups Angel. To choose a set that would look amazing in ROTJ:R, I would go for all the dark looking ones, like the Luke and Vader walking up the staircase and the other dark looking shots of Vader looking for Luke etc.
I like how the darkness encompasses the throne room and it emphasises that the Emperor is a really dark being who lives in the shadows. It's perfect. Yoda even says that 'the domain of evil' is something that is very dark (Bingowings mentioned something along the same lines). The lights on the panels add to the atmosphere and I have to admit that ROTJ does have quite boring cinematography and design. It would make sense to go further and add some much needed darkness to the Emperor's throne room and then everything else can tie neatly into it - like the corrected lightsabers and starfield etc.
The force-fielded binders (ala. ROTS) is also a very neat idea; I'm all for that. And it goes without saying that we should see the forest moon of Endor in the background - even with some lighting effects if that is possible.
I love what you've done to the throne room Angel - looks magnificent :D
Lol maybe we should do something like this -
I'm kidding....(edit - I just noticed that I've made an older Hayden look like Dexter Morgan from 'Dexter', lol).
TV's Frink said:
Darth Chronus said:
Ok I know I've been told off before for suggesting that the ghost Anakin should have more hair akin to Hayden's 'do in ROTS...
Spoken by someone who is blessed with plenty of hair lol.
You mean me? Then yes I have lots of hair (no bald patch either). I'm 19 and it looks like the receding hairline business probably won't set in until my late 40s/early 50s just like most of the men in my family.
Ok I know I've been told off before for suggesting that the ghost Anakin should have more hair akin to Hayden's 'do in ROTS, but I did go overboard with my mock-ups before. I've just added some subtle touches to Timstuff's pic. I know he's middle aged at this point - but come on Obi-Wan has a neat fringe and he's 16 years older than Anakin. I've just added a little bit....he deserves it :)
Btw I love the added Jedi Outfit from the prequels - more apt. Well done Timstuff. ;)
darthmunky said:
That is awesome! Looks good, I'd be happy with that although I'd still prefer an alternative. I don't want him to look like Shaw but I don't think he should look the same as he did in RotS either. I'm still voting for the morph. Also, I think his clothes should be replaced with his dark tunic from the PT.
I agree.
But @ Timstuff - that looks ace :)
fishmanlee said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CdicAx1P14&feature=related
this should be in ESB:R lol
Hahaha sweet, great find :)
Oh and @ Davnes007 - awesome video. Rated and faved.
I'm sorry for your loss Ady.
My prayers are with you.
Matticon said:
Darth Chronus said:
rcb said:
The end battle in one revision was supposed to happen below coruscant in a lava room.
something like mustafar then ;)
If you haven't read the rough draft of Revenge of the Jedi then here it is
http://www.starwarz.com/starkiller/scripts/revenge_revised_rough_draft.htm
I read it around the time Revenge of the Sith was released in 2005 and I loved it; though I know that it would have been such an expensive film had it been made.
Thanks Darth Cronos! I did read this script and I liked it a lot.
I feel it needed further revision such as Darth Vaders dialogue and Ben seems to just hang around at the end chillaxin with the Emperor while Luke and Vader fight.
But it is a much more exciting movie. The end space battle seems so much more epic. You can definitely tell that ROTJ was a much more budget concious film. I liked having the team infiltrate the sanctuary moon to set up a laser and I also liked Luke being separated for most of the film.
This script illustrates to me that one of the main problems of ROTJ is that the final showdown happens in the middle of nowhere in space. It is much more dramatic having it happen at the Imperial capital ( Coruscant or Had Abbadon). It also would make much more sense in terms of wrapping up the whole trilogy and tying it to Episode III.
However we are unable to change this fact due to the fact we can't re-shoot scenes with the original actors who are 30 years younger. Maybe....in 20 more years Adywan will figure out a way... but who knows.
Matticon
You're welcome. And yeah it's a shame that the Luke vs Vader fight never took place within the capital. I have to say that Had Abbadon (Coruscant) could have looked similar to Blade Runner's future version of LA (and Blade Runner was released a year before ROTJ). But I suppose with those effects throughout a lot of the movie plus the space battle and other ground battle would have cost a hell of a lot of money in 1982-3 when they were making the effects. It could have been possible and then Lucas could later go back and add to the city in his 1997 Special Editions - but even then I think that the crew must have considered it near impossible anyway.
And I have to admit I thought that Obi-Wan talking to the Emperor whilst the duel was happening seemed a bit too much. They could have been smoking death-sticks or something, lol.
OBI-WAN: (smoking a death-stick) Once a guy in a bar tempted me to buy some of these and I sent him home, but now that I think about it maybe I should have bought those death sticks, they're really good aren't they?
PALPATINE: (smoking a death-stick) They sure are Kenobi. Oh look Young Skywalker is kicking Vader's mechanical backside! That boy is good, you trained him just as well as Vader, but I sense my little green friend was in on the caper too. Right?
OBI-WAN: Who? Kermit the frog?
PALPATINE: No you fool! Yoda!
OBI-WAN: Oh. Well then yeah Yoda taught him too.
PALPATINE: I knew it. I should have electrified him to death as soon as he walked into my office.
OBI-WAN: Oops. I should not have said that. He's gonna strangle me in the netherworld.
YODA appears
YODA: Stupid dickweed you are Master Kenobi, strangle you I will. Do it I will after this battle. Bet 1000 credits on Young Skywalker I do.
rcb said:
The end battle in one revision was supposed to happen below coruscant in a lava room.
something like mustafar then ;)
If you haven't read the rough draft of Revenge of the Jedi then here it is
http://www.starwarz.com/starkiller/scripts/revenge_revised_rough_draft.htm
I read it around the time Revenge of the Sith was released in 2005 and I loved it; though I know that it would have been such an expensive film had it been made.
vaderios said:
-Angel
That's frickin' sweet! :)
And @ Sky_
Awesome into videos, I can't wait to see the final one.
mrpezzer said:
Will AOTC or ROTS be as simple then?? How come he did TPM and so quickly?
Thanks for the info guys
I'll bet TPM's CGI was better to work with since it's on traditional film as opposed to AOTC and ROTS - and it's effects elements haven't been gone over as many times as the classic trilogy.
rcb said:
anyone see the new family guy parody yet?
I have. It was awesome - loved that special ending on the medical frigate, lol :D
Jaitea said:
Darth Chronus
said:.Happy New Year - you beat me to it; I have my iphone malfunctioning probably because it can't handle quotes, lol. I'm in Manchester - great fireworks.
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Not much happenin' in Ulster , all the best fer 2010!!!!!!
J
I've always wanted to visit Ulster - and yeah all the best for the new year; and decade. The 90s felt like the last greatest decade in terms of being amazing overall. The noughties were quite rocky indeed....with flashes of brilliance from the entertainment industry of course.
I'm part of the whole Cartoon Network era, so I may sound a tiny bit naive, lol, but I'd love my faith in humanity to be restored this decade.
By the way do you have any mock-up videos in the works? I love the shuttle ones, they're fantastic.
