Haarspalter said:
2. No. When i played the LucasArts PC game TIE-FIGHTER there was nothing blocking my view.
Come on now.
The Jedi Starfighter proves that Lucas designed the movie BEFORE he finished the script.
(AOTC)
“Oh hey Doug Chiang, paint an edgy starfighter for the Jedi that resembles an OT Stardestroyer.”[Months later]
“Oh damn, i need an R2 droid for Ewan so that he can deliver some explanatory dialogue on his way to Kamino … Doug, put the R2 droid somewhere … here. Looks good to me.”(ROTS)
“Hey Doug, this time paint an edgy starfighter for the Jedi that resembles the illegitimate child of a Tie-Fighter and a Stardestroyer. And hey, i need R2 to eject somehow on General Grievous’ ship. Come up with a lazy solution that will look good to me.”[Months later]
“Oh damn, how are Anakin & Obi-Wan supposed to pilot these things properly when those extended wings block their view left and right? Pffh, i don’t care … looks good to me.”
Humby said:
Destinctly not Star Warsy- Grevious
Uh oh. Someone tell JJ that Sidon Ithano is un Star Wars-y.
I don’t know why everyone keeps responding to swagmasta/PTOTST. This is what he does: creates a sock, pretends to be a nice PT fan who doesn’t hate the OOT, then slowly ups the ante, making stupid arguments for the PT, making stupid criticisms of the OT, before losing his shit altogether and posting crap about the OT being inferior to the PT and dictators being wonderful politicians and telling Frink to eat big black dick. He’s a goddamn troll who just wants to rile everyone up for his own amusement.
Tell me where you live.
What looked generic? The ship desogns, the weapons, the uniforms and the alien designs.
Specifics. Give me one thing in particular that you thought looked generic.
LOL. if they weren’t so generic, that request might be feasible.
That doesn’t make sense. Something being generic shouldn’t stop you from be able to mention it. If anything, if something stood out to you as uninspired you should be able to remember it for critique reasons.
Amano said:
Many things looked genericI mean, Doug Chiang and Ryan Church are pretty well respected.
So is Ewan McGregor, Liam Nesson, Natalie Portman…
False equivalence. Directing actors=/=directing concept artists.
Actors are more dependent on the director for things like Motivation, while concept artists just draw things George wants (he says “sinkhole planet”, they draw Utapau, then go back and forth till he likes it).
A concept artist is less dependent on the director moment by moment.This is ridiculous.
In what way?
What looked generic? The ship desogns, the weapons, the uniforms and the alien designs.
Specifics. Give me one thing in particular that you thought looked generic.
If you prefer the Prequels we are fine with that. But the new designs didn’t look like stemming from the same universe than the oscar winning “dull“ ones.
I just want to know what looked dull to you in the PT.
Nothing. You brought up the “dull“ word for the OT, I chose “generic“ for the prequels.
Whoops. I meant- what looked generic to you from the PT?
If you prefer the Prequels we are fine with that. But the new designs didn’t look like stemming from the same universe than the oscar winning “dull“ ones.
I just want to know what looked dull to you in the PT.
For me George Lucas was always style over substance. Not great storys, not great pieces of acting. Which worked fine when he got the style-side of things right (THX, American Graffiti, Star Wars).
That’s my main grief with the prequels. He couldn’t replicate the Star Wars “style“ and it didn’t feel like the same universe anymore. Many things looked generic and sometimes more like Babylon 5 or Star Trek than Flash Gordon and Ralph McQuarrie.
And being directed by veteran director Kershner Empire is my favorite episode. Because Kirshner squeezed out some great and believable performances out of the actors. In addition to featuring Lucas’ great Star Wars style.
What looked generic to you?
Amano said:
Many things looked genericI mean, Doug Chiang and Ryan Church are pretty well respected.
So is Ewan McGregor, Liam Nesson, Natalie Portman…
False equivalence. Directing actors=/=directing concept artists.
Actors are more dependent on the director for things like Motivation, while concept artists just draw things George wants (he says “sinkhole planet”, they draw Utapau, then go back and forth till he likes it).
A concept artist is less dependent on the director moment by moment.
Amano said:
Many things looked genericI mean, Doug Chiang and Ryan Church are pretty well respected.
And they are wonderful artists. But that didn’t stop most of the designs in the final product from looking dull or “un-starwarsy”. There were a few good designs throughout the PT, but most of it was blah.
I disagree. I always found the OT dull in its design, with things like Han’s ship supposedly looking like a piece of junk compared to other ships not really ringing true when so many of the ships in the OT were the same colorless grey, mega-greebled things, (star destroyers, nebulon frigates, ESB transports etc) or weren’t particularly more sleek looking than the Falcon (X-Wings, B-Wings, Ties, etc).
Felt very same-y to me.
Amano said:
Many things looked generic
I mean, Doug Chiang and Ryan Church are pretty well respected.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/01/politics/donald-trump-andrew-jackson-wiretapping/index.html
To me, the most telling line in either of the Trump interviews is this one to Dickerson: “I have my own opinions. You can have your own opinions.” What Trump is doing here is conflating opinions with facts. The facts do not come close to bearing out his claims on surveillance. But, if you make opinion and fact synonymous you can do or say whatever you want because, in the immortal words of Jeffrey Lebowski, “yeah, well, that’s just like your opinion, man.”
Opinions, of course, aren’t facts. The problem is that Trump doesn’t know or doesn’t care about that. And his supporters believe whatever he tells them to believe. Which means we are in a post-fact political world. And that is scary as hell.
That was the final part of the article. The rest is worth reading to as it gets into a couple of Trump’s insane answers to interviews over the weekend.
Here is the clip of that walkout…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TCR5oC5ZQs
The quotes around the word “difficulties” are yuge.
The reporter was being rather obnoxious though, repeating himself while grinning like that.
Do you think it matters when he was more lazy?
I think that wasn’t relevant to the topic at hand.
Your ability to only understand one of two things does not make those things different.
"but it doesn’t matter when he was more lazy."
This part in context doesn’t work.
Look, was PT Lucas more lazy than OT Lucas? I don’t know and I don’t care. They’re both lazy, which one is more lazy is irrelevant.
Hey, that’s better than your last answer.
It’s the same answer!
So no, I’m not saying PT Lucas was less lazy than OT Lucas, but it doesn’t matter when he was more lazy. That’s a dumb question.
No it’s not because that one was convoluted in its wording and didn’t make sense.
I’m not dodging anything. I’m not a sock. You brought that up only to deflect from my question.
No, I brought it up because I believe you are a sock. And I answered your question.
But you admitted that your answer didn’t make sense.
Jesus Christ.
Yes?
Look, was PT Lucas more lazy than OT Lucas? I don’t know and I don’t care. They’re both lazy, which one is more lazy is irrelevant.
Hey, that’s better than your last answer.
So no, I’m not saying PT Lucas was less lazy than OT Lucas, but it doesn’t matter when he was more lazy.
This doesn’t make sense.
Neither does your question.
How so?
You said that even if he retconned it during the PT, 1983 Lucas was lazy.That implies that you think that PT Lucas is less lazy than OT Lucas, so I asked you for confirmation on that.
Jesus Christ.
What about this situation is escaping you?
I’m not dodging anything. I’m not a sock. You brought that up only to deflect from my question.
No, I brought it up because I believe you are a sock. And I answered your question.
But you admitted that your answer didn’t make sense.
So no, I’m not saying PT Lucas was less lazy than OT Lucas, but it doesn’t matter when he was more lazy.
This doesn’t make sense.
Neither does your question.
How so?
You said that even if he retconned it during the PT, 1983 Lucas was lazy.
That implies that you think that PT Lucas is less lazy than OT Lucas, so I asked you for confirmation on that.
I’m not dodging anything. I’m not a sock. You brought that up only to deflect from my question.
So no, I’m not saying PT Lucas was less lazy than OT Lucas, but it doesn’t matter when he was more lazy.
This doesn’t make sense.
Are you saying you aren’t a sock of multiple previously banned accounts?
Are you saying that you’re dodging the question?