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#1073774
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5.1 surround sound on Despecialized Editions?
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^ Harmy and I tried that once (for similar reasons), and people were running the DVDs though DVD Shrink to get the 5.1 on. The 5.1 mixes on the DVDs stay. It’s a case of giving the people what they want. 😃

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#1073654
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5.1 surround sound on Despecialized Editions?
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hairy_hen said:

True, the surround channel delay is supposed to be implemented by playback hardware only. And it is only supposed to happen during upmixing, not when playing 5.1 mixes.

In this case, the ‘hardware’ is the Dolby Media Decoder application that created the upmix.

Ah, I believe that I understand now. The receiver applies the delay when upmixing, so whatever software performs the upmix has to do the same. What about the -3dB attentuation though? If that is “baked in” to a 5.1 mix, does setting the surrounds to -3dB on the receiver have an effect only when upmixing?

(The LFE channel is, of course, the only reason for even bothering with making it 5.1 in the first place; if not for this, I would have distributed my edits in stereo and just let people upmix them in their receivers like they would anything else.)

This statement surprises me a bit. If true, why not make a 2.1 track? I thought that the process that you use gives better results than a standard upmix performed by a receiver. Thanks for all the explanation by the way!

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#1073449
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5.1 surround sound on Despecialized Editions?
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^ That confuses me too. Many (software) upmixing profiles implement a 20ms delay and -3dB attenuation of the surrounds, which leaves me wondering how to configure hardware when playing back such an upmix and why the upmixing profile doesn’t leave it to the hardware to perform the adjustment in the first place.

hairy_hen said:
If you don’t find this to be an issue, then playing the 5.1 on a 3.1 system would certainly still provide a benefit, since you’ll still get the dynamics and extra bass, just not the surroundy-ness. The stereo mix is rather less dynamic and doesn’t have much bass, so on a more powerful sound system it may seem somewhat muted in comparison.

That’s what I found when I had a 3.1 setup for a while.

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#1072620
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5.1 surround sound on Despecialized Editions?
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ThePJzer said:
I was just curious if, on a technical level, it’s still advisable to use the stereo mix in your latest versions unless you have a full 5.1 setup?

You have a 3.1 setup and would benefit from the 5.1 even though you do not have the surrounds.

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#1071523
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Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Grindhouse 35mm LPP
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Handman said:

That’s so weird. I think the original uncorrected images (at least the desert) are more appealing to the eye, but evidently I must be mistaken.

You can’t really be mistaken when it comes to your impressions of what appeals to the eye. 😃 Original (or intended) looks were not necessarily aesthetically appealing ones. As it happens, I too prefer the Grindhouse, but the 16mm match looks good as well.

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#1057174
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The theatrical colors of the Star Wars trilogy
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DrDre said:

I would like to add, that I believe it’s important to preserve the original theatrical print colors (or one of them) without interpretation, or subjective taste. (emphasis added)

That’s a good point, but once we have one such preservation, giving the film authentic but consistent color in future projects is a worthy goal. Recreating color inconsistencies is a waste of valuable time if they vary from print to print anyway.

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#1053512
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The GOUT Sync Thread
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Will, I’ve only skim-read your guide, but my initial impression is that it looks good. Precise information about the frame-differences of the PAL GOUT is contained in the scripts at the start of the thread. If I were you, I’d update your guide accordingly; otherwise, you might mislead people.

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#1041884
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GOUT Technicolor regrade (single pass)
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DrDre said:
I’m doing this mostly to create a good color reference.

Got it! I figured that some people will probably want to watch it through as well though, so it wouldn’t hurt to clean up the GOUT a bit in the process.

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#1041870
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GOUT Technicolor regrade (single pass)
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Even with a LUT applied, the GOUT presumably needs to be filtered before people find it watchable (unless they want just to look at the colors). Has there been any advance on g-force’s latest script since it was posted? It’s been a while.

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