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#1140259
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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I know I said I’m off the Internet until after I see TLJ, but I just finished watching V2 and I had to comment on it, so now this will be my last post until TLJ!

It’s been a while since I’ve watched TFA, and I haven’t watched Restructured V1 since work began on V2. Holy hell I’d forgotten just how much the restructuring improves the movie, and V2 polishes it to the point where it’s almost indistinguishable from an official theatrical release.

The Maz’s castle sequence is flawless and flows so much better without the tonal dissonance caused by the Starkiller/Hosnian destruction parts. The new VFX shots are seamless, and while Finn’s new line is still the tiniest bit rough, if it had been exactly like that in theaters I wouldn’t have second guessed it at all. Stellar work by Sir Ridley!

The deleted scene is integrated smoothly without damaging the pacing. I agree that it could use one more color pass, and the visual quality does take a mild dip, but it really helps clarify the political situation (helped along by the new crawl, too, which also looks indistinguishable from an officially produced version) - I can’t imagine watching the movie without that scene now.

Same goes for the subtle changes to the Artoo subplot (once again, agree that Threepio SFX are needed there), which I remember being against for this particular edit (though I don’t remember if I ever voiced that opinion). I stand totally corrected when it comes to that. A very subtle, but important difference IMO. I was surprised at how effective I found the recoloring of the firing (now charging) sequence, too.

And of course, the third act has so much more impact now. I thought the repurposed shots during the firing sequence were perfectly integrated, and didn’t notice any awkward slow-motion at all for what it’s worth.

The only critique I have is a technical issue: at least on my media player (watching the 1080p MKV untouched, without the PCM muxed in), the entire sequence of Chewie rescuing Rey and Finn in the Falcon after the lightsaber duel suffers from a choppy/stuttery framerate. Not sure what happened there exactly.

As for the other v2.1/v3 improvements suggested so far, the Kylo hood/mask removal is definitely a good idea, but it’s not immersion-breaking for me. I also do agree that the Republic should be acknowledged in the briefing if that can be done seamlessly.

This (well, the next/final version of this) will absolutely be the closest-to-theatrical version I ever watch again. (Not quite calling it a shelf replacement just yet - Neverar’s Starlight edit still has me very intrigued.)

Stellar work by everybody! 😄 And I get to watch it again tomorrow night with my family - and I’m purposefully going to start it after the fan edit disclaimer just to see if anyone notices it’s different! Muahahahaha…

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#1140075
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Going away? Post so here!
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TLJ spoilers are in the wild now, and some (extremely mild so far, but still) are starting to creep into general discussions here and elsewhere, so I’m cutting myself of from the Internet until I see the movie Thursday night.

I’ll be back with a review of TLJ. Don’t have too much fun while I’m gone!

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#1140074
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The Tex Murphy Thread
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Possessed said:

Can we stop? I just learned Luke’s character is going in a “risky” direction and that can only mean so many things, and I’ve avoided all spoilers till now.

Thanks in advance.

Yeah…I think now might be the time I cut myself off from the entire Internet until next Friday…

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#1140031
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Also, the PCM file is a WAV larger than 4GB, which I’m honestly not sure how you created as WAV has a 4GB limit.

I converted it to W64 using eac3to, which allows you to mux it into a Blu-Ray folder with tsmuxer. I’m making the disc now so I can’t confirm that it works, but it’s super easy to convert the WAV to W64 for anyone that wants to use the PCM track but can’t get it to work.

Download eac3to and stick it in a folder that has a relatively simple path (mine is D:\Editing\eac3to).

Do the same for the PCM WAV file - it might be a little easier to rename it, too. I renamed it to TFA.wav.

Open up your command prompt and type in the eac3to directory, then the original WAV, then the new .w64, and hit enter and let it run.

For example, here’s what I typed into command prompt:

 D:\Editing\eac3to\eac3to.exe D:\TFA.wav D:\TFA.w64

Basically, the syntax is, first point it to eac3to, then point it to the input file, then designate the output file.

Then you should be able to load the PCM into tsmuxer with no issues.

For some reason, mkvtoolnix can’t see the .w64 and won’t open the .WAV, but you can probably mux it in tsmuxer then remux it back into an MKV with mkvtoolnix once the .w64 is part of an m2ts instead of on its own.

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#1140029
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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They did it with the 1977 pre-ANH version, but I don’t think any other film has the crawl synced to the music that way (paragraph to paragraph). The sync “issues” between films are probably down to variations in crawl length and just natural variances in the recording/conducting of the music.

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#1140024
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Possibly. I wasn’t even using Adywan’s audio, I was using audio straight from the TPM Blu-Ray.

Wonder how far out of sync the OT opening themes are, since each of them is a different recording…

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#1140017
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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So I ripped my TPM Blu-Ray, converted the audio to mono WAVs, then downloaded your PCM track and did the same, and threw the center channel of both into Audacity to swap out the opening theme and…

…they’re not in sync. Which I was very much not expecting - I figured all crawls were probably the same length and the music the same tempo and such, so it would be an easy swap. Turns out that’s not the case.

So I don’t have any kind of an ETA on my “fixed” audio track with a less-shitty-sounding opening theme, unfortunately. That’s going to require more fucking around than I expected.

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#1139879
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Episode VIII Discussion *SPOILER THREAD*
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Premiere is tomorrow, right? Probably gonna go full dark from all Internet things until I see the movie next Thursday then, so this’ll be the last night you’ll see me around here until then.

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#1139874
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The Stephen King Thread
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I’ve only read the uncut version, but my mom swears by the original. She thinks the uncut version is too bloated.

For my money it’s one of King’s best works, so YMMV.

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#1139771
Topic
The Scifi Films of 2018
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DuracellEnergizer said:

Annihilation looks somewhat intriguing, but I don’t have a clue as to what the hell the story’s supposed to be about.

That’s why I’m so excited for it! Well, that and the fact that I adore Ex Machina and it’s the same writer/director.

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#1139764
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The Scifi Films of 2018
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Super excited for Annihilation. Still debating whether I should read the book(s) first or not…

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#1139763
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Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox?
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Because to the general public, Disney getting ANH distribution rights doesn’t matter since they already own Lucasfilm and make Star Wars movies, while Disney getting ahold of X-Men and Fantastic Four is bigger news.

And sadly, those two things are all anyone seems to be focusing on with this deal…

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#1139618
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
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android927 said:

Also, I will leave the link up for now, and if a mod asks me to remove it I’ll edit the post and start using PMs instead.

…yeah, that’s a bad idea around here. Delete the link.

I would also argue that it falls under preservation, as it is an original unaltered scene that was shot alongside the rest of the film.

It’s adding something from one official released version of a film to a different official version of a film. It’s a fan edit, not a preservation.

I would agree if the scene was loaded with CGI “improvements”, but as far as I can tell it’s exactly the same as it was back in 1977. My color corrections and sequencing revert the scene back to what it probably looked like when it was still included in early edits of the film during the post production process. Deleted scenes deserve to be preserved as well, because at worst they provide insight into the production of the film, and at best they contain something vital to the plot that should never have been removed to begin with (compare Blade Runner: The Final Cut to the original theatrical cut for an example of this).

If you took the scene on its own and restored the part that was cut from it (Red Leader talking about Luke’s father), and released that as its own thing, not incorporated into the film as a whole, that would be a preservation.

Not trying to be a jerk, this is a good idea and something I’m sure a lot of people will be interested in, but it’s definitely not a preservation.

And links, or links to links, are definitely against forum rules. Leaving it up risks a ban (temp or permanent).

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#1139543
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
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Yeah, I don’t think linking to another site that contains a link to download the whole thing is kosher here either. Let people who are interested in your version PM you for a link instead. And you might also want to consider creating your own thread for your version, too (in the fan edits section, since adding that scene disqualifies it from being a preservation).

Neat idea though - I don’t think that scene really works without the Tatooine Biggs scenes, but it’s probably the one change made to ANH that I’m close to being okay with.

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#1139515
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kk650's Regraded Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace Regrained Edition V3 (blanket green tint removed from blu-ray)
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He’s said that he’s releasing small files first, and if enough people are interested in those, he’ll then release full-size versions.

Which I think is a mistake, since many (like myself) won’t download a small bitrate version, instead opting to wait for a full-size copy, which might make it seem like there’s less interest than there actually is. But that’s the way kk650 has chosen to go about it.

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