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#1058941
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Jetrell Fo said:

I am seeing reports that Manafort, Stone, Page have all written letters to the Congressional Committee offering their testimony in the Russian/Campaign Surveillance investigation. This could turn out to be quite a wild time to be alive.

http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/testify-manafort-stone-page-russia-trump/2045/

My money’s on it being a triple display of being shocked, shocked that there was ever any espionage going on in there. And there wasn’t any espionage anyway. And Flynn was behind all of it. And we don’t recall.

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#1058818
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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So, Pravda on the Checkout Line is pushing the story that Flynn was a Russian spy. While traditionally, nothing resembling the truth can ever come out of that place, for the past several months, people have had some success applying the principles of Kremlinology to the tabloid. i.e. you don’t ever learn the truth per se, but you learn who’s in, who’s out (as in out of favor, not necessarily out of a job), and who’s going to fall off a roof next week.

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#1058486
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Handman said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Trump has managed to find a base so stupid that he can say and do anything and they’ll keep right on supporting him.

If you think 1 person has cornered the market on stupid, talk to Bernie Sanders, ask him how he feels about being cheated by his own people.

😉 (a wink in jest)

Joking or not, it’s not a valid comparison. Sanders “base” were not thrilled when he was doing things like endorsing Hillary. Trump’s base would just keep cheering him no matter what.

Just to make sure, are you insinuating Trump’s base would still cheer him if he endorsed Hillary? I thought most of his campaign was run on the fact that he wasn’t Hillary.

I think it’s certainly arguable. There are multiple parallels between the '08 and '16 primaries. One of course is that the Democratic primary was truly settled by Super Tuesday, but the losing candidate kept going on all the way to the end because of the size and devotion of their following. The other, less frequently discussed factor was that once it was clear Clinton was faltering in 08, her campaign staked quite a lot on aiming for the same, er, let’s say “demographic appeal”, that Trump’s campaign later capitalized on–disaffected white working class voters in the south and upper midwest. They both ran on a “not Obama” platform in that sense, and it wouldn’t take much for an '08 Hillary voter in that demographic to jump to a '16 Trump voter–or jump back, especially if Trump dropped out due to losing to a candidate perceived as a racial minority.

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#1058160
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Jetrell Fo said:

So are we still maintaining the narrative that Trump Tower was not under surveillance?

I posted about four pages back that Trump Tower was under surveillance, but that Obama didn’t order it, Trump wasn’t the target, and all normal investigative procedures were followed (warrants, etc). There were lots of people in that tower, including a bunch of Russian mobsters running a money laundering operation. You can’t exclude a whole tower full of suspects from legal surveillance just because one of the residents might someday decide to run for President.

How you got from there to Trump Tower was not under surveillance is beyond me.

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#1058150
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OT Sound Mixes
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Using the “I heard it from hairy_hen therefore it’s gospel” standard, and hoping I don’t misrepresent what he said, here’s the scoop:

Star Wars was the only film that got a new mix in 1985. Any slight differences people have heard on 1985 Empire releases for example are consistent with the normal variations that can happen when creating a new release using the same audio master.

1993 was a whole new master, but Star Wars was the only film that got intentional content changes, and Empire got an accidental change. Jedi has no content differences. The Empire change was a missing snowspeeder crash sound effect.

Empire’s mono mix can be heard on Puggo Strikes Back or the most recent Despecialized Edition. They’re both from the same 16mm source, and there are a few content differences, as well as a number of clear mixing/levels differences. Basically, C-3PO gets a few more lines. It’s worth a listen, just for the historical curiosity alone.

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#1058087
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

Also, as Cheney taught us, there are other less-straightforward but equally effective avenues for declassifying info.

Threatening to shoot the other person in the face?

Simply leaking the classified info yourself and burning our intelligence contacts in the process. i.e. Plame’s contacts re: weapons proliferation.

I can’t tell if you missed the joke or just ignored it.

Clarified for other listeners. Shooting an old guy in the face and then having that guy apologize to you is still a pretty high water mark for impunity, even in this day and age.

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#1058070
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

Also, as Cheney taught us, there are other less-straightforward but equally effective avenues for declassifying info.

Threatening to shoot the other person in the face?

Simply leaking the classified info yourself and burning our intelligence contacts in the process. i.e. Plame’s contacts re: weapons proliferation.

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#1058068
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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TV’s Frink said:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower/story?id=46266198

There, indeed, was an FBI wiretap involving Russians at Trump Tower.

But it was not placed at the behest of Barack Obama, and the target was not the Trump campaign of 2016. For two years ending in 2013, the FBI had a court-approved warrant to eavesdrop on a sophisticated Russian organized crime money-laundering network that operated out of unit 63A in Trump Tower in New York.

The more interesting case to me is a different Russian mob money laundering case (the Prevezon case), which was being investigated by… wait for it… Preet Bharara.

Well, it was heading in interesting directions until the key witness (whoopsie!) fell off the top of a building in Moscow yesterday. Russian news sources say it was an accident, but witnesses seem to disagree. That’s okay, though, the case marches ahead under the new US Attorney. Bharara’s replacement is likely to be the son of a former lawyer for the defendant Prevezon, so I’m sure it’ll work out fine.

FWIW, Bharara’s refusal to resign was neither pointless grandstanding nor some scheme to get some critical work done before he got fired. In the event of impeachment, firing a US Attorney investigating matters related to the cause of impeachment is considered obstruction of justice, another charge to pile on the rest–and if it got to that point, it would be both serious and difficult to refute.

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#1058059
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Alderaan said:

CatBus said:

Of course not, they merely have the power to declassify any documents they wish.

How can they declassify something they don’t know exists?

In the particular matter we’re discussing, Trump either a) knows they exist, or b) is making unsubstantiated shit up again. Because either he knows a factual basis for the claim or he doesn’t. If it exists and he didn’t know about it, that means he still made it up–he just got lucky by the stopped-clock standard.

Also, as Cheney taught us, there are other less-straightforward but equally effective avenues for declassifying info.

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#1058011
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Jetrell Fo said:

CatBus said:

Alderaan said:

Because the President is not omnipotent nor a dictator.

Of course not, they merely have the power to declassify any documents they wish.

If names are masked, the President and the Oval office don’t gather the info, so they have to request the name unmasking from the agency that gathered the intel.

Yes, they have the authority to direct the agencies to do that too. I was including that in the declassification powers.

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#1057726
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Title Color
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doubleofive said:

I pull the color from an image of the logo Mike Verta shared on his forum a while ago.

What’s the hex code for that color?

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#1057703
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Title Color
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I’d imagine our ROTJ 35mm preservation (Harmy’s) would be pretty close, since that’s low-fade filmstock. Whether that would exactly match the other films is an open question, but I’d think it’d be pretty close.

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#1057696
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Luckily, the President has the power to declassify anything he likes, so I’m sure it’ll be cleared up in a jiffy.

Besides, there was a wiretap at Trump Tower. But it was targetting a Russian mob-operated money laundering operation.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower/story?id=46266198

TLDR summary, although the FBI operation was largely a success, the big Russian mafioso got away, and was last seen in the VIP section at one of the President’s events, right near the man himself.

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#1057425
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
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LordZerome1080 said:

I have never been able to see anything wrong with the GOUT. Could somebody tell me what the big deal is?

Although DVD features had made the transition to anamorphic years prior, the GOUT was still non-anamorphic, which was galling. Those who watched it on an SD-CRT might not have noticed the difference, but others would either get the “tiny window in the middle of the screen” effect, or they’d zoom in to see it nice and big… and blurry. Basically if the reason you bought the GOUT in the first place was specifically for the GOUT, and it got treated like some unfinished deleted scene (which was the only time non-anamorphic video was on DVD at that time anymore), you’d be pretty pissed. And considering it was presented side-by-side with another release clearly demonstrating that better source material existed (and wasn’t used), that was another kick in the teeth. Then, if you decided to get beyond the size and blurriness of the film, you’d start seeings things like the colors and DVNR, neither of which were out of place or particularly bad… for an early-nineties Laserdisc release. But for a contemporary DVD, they kinda sucked. And compared to HD, well, ick.

And then there’s the audio. This was the release that was being billed to be “just like it was in theatres”. Well, actually no, it wasn’t. The audio is the 93 mix, which was never in the theatres, and had lots of issues people complained about (nineties effects mixed into seventies audio, effects simply being left out). And lossy, so it actually managed to fare worse than Laserdisc in this respect.

Basically if you just want to re-create the feeling of watching Star Wars on television in the 80’s, the GOUT does a competent job of that. Minor issues, yeah, but it’s not too far off the mark. But if you want to re-create the feeling of watching it in the theatre? No, not one bit.

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#1056816
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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TV’s Frink said:

Ok. I still don’t see how what I’ve posted makes me a condescending liberal elitist but whatever.

Really wasn’t targetting you so much as the media coverage of all these “Trump voters are so screwed by Trump’s policies” articles in the media these days, which include graphics like the one you used. It’s rare for one of these articles to successfully get to the issues that actually motivate these voters to continue to rally behind Trump. Taking a look at this story, the Charla McComic story is your typical “there are huge gaps in her motivation/logic here that could easily be filled in by a pushy reporter but instead we’ll leave the gaps in place and she’ll sound like a moron”. The Nancy Ware story is better – the motivations are fully revealed, but not analyzed in the least.

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#1056796
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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TV’s Frink said:

Did people in the Appalachians vote for Trump knowing he’d eliminate programs that are designed to help them?

I can’t be absolutely certain or other people’s motivations, of course, but Trump is hardly the first person who promised to eliminate programs that help Appalachia, got their overwhelming support, and then once elected proceeded to eliminate those programs as promised. And then will get their overwhelming support in the next election. There’s a lot about Trump that’s unprecedented, but this particular refrain has been playing on repeat for decades.

They aren’t getting what they need economically (they never have), but Trump is absolutely giving them more than they thought they’d ever get ideologically. The problem with this pattern is the ideology, not the economics.

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#1056792
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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I want to break out my soapbox for a little bit.

The whole discussion of “Republicans voting against their self-interest” is the sort of elitist, condescending, liberal-bubble nonsense that does more to reinforce bad stereotypes of liberals than to actual further any political analysis.

Everyone votes against their own self-interest. Everyone.

Liberals vote to increase their own taxes. Those taxes may fund schools their kids don’t go to. Republicans look at this and roll their eyes, talk about those crazy liberal cities that love taxes. But you know what they tend not to do? Talk about those liberals as if they were a bunch of slow-witted slack-jawed yokels who will someday come to their senses.

There is an understanding that there’s a thinking brain behind these decisions. That the liberals weighed the very tangible and measurable economic self-harm against some ideological greater good they believe they’re working toward.

Where is that understanding on the left, when people on the right vote to cut the social programs they rely on? People on the right also have a concept of the greater good, it’s simply a very different-looking greater good than the one envisioned on the left. When they decide to take a personal hit to do what they believe advances their society, they may consider it a brave and noble act. Then every single liberal they see implies they’re just morons. Way to build bridges, people.

Now, full disclosure. My people don’t come from too far from that pink stripe on Frink’s map. I go camping for a weekend and could easily be mistaken for an extra from Deliverance. I don’t think a whole lot of these voters are going to be lining up to support Kamala Harris in 2020. But some can be convinced, and it’s a start. And it’s not going to be by saying “What’d you go and do that for? I hope you’re happy without your health care, har!” It would be by showing them the better world envisioned by liberal ideals. Yes, yes, I (painfully) realize that most wouldn’t see what’s so much better about a world with so many brown people in it, but some could. And that’s the way forward.

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#1056596
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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TV’s Frink said:

Also Bernie would have been less popular after he underwent months of general election attacks and scrutiny.

I’ve been a big fan of Bernie since 1990 (that’s, uh, well, let’s not count the years, shall we?) and supported him in the primary, didn’t particularly like Clinton (voted for her anyway), and have to agree. The bar for congressional investigation is very low. Sanders was a Senator when Benghazi happened. What did he know? Why didn’t he do more to stop it? Did he give a secret order to stand down that there’s no record of? Yeah, that sounds ridiculous, but no more so than when those same questions were asked about Clinton. And Sanders used e-mail, therefore crooked Bernie. He’d have gotten the same treatment, and the press would have still gone easy on Trump, grading his whole candidacy on a curve. Maybe he would’ve stayed popular, maybe not. However, if popularity was any sort of measure of electoral success, Bernie may have been going through Senate approval for some executive branch agency right now.

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