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I’m posting on here in the hope that someone out there will be able to help me with this.
I too love this film and feel your pain. I have tried for years to find this and tried myself to make it. The biggest problem is not necessarily the audio. The French/German/Spanish Blu-ray you want to add the audio to are 104mins. The audio from your VHS will be 99m57sec. So not only do you need to sync the audio as others have advised, but there will be some scenes which need minor alterations and cuts which is the hard bit. You should check out a company called Hong Kong Rescue. They have released several Jackie Chan films and they are some of the best out there. I am UK based and have ordered from them and have every one of their releases. They even made me a bespoke version of Above the Law with original Eng Dub.
Back to Twin Dragons, I have been so frustrated with the lack of love for this film, that I have actually contacted HKR and commissioned them to make Twin Dragons with the original Eng Dub. It’s costing a small fortune, but is worth it to have it in full HD with the original Eng Dub.
Hopefully it should be ready in a month or so. Keep an eye out on the website as they will sell on the custom/commissioned projects after I have approved it.
@MasterWithOkFingers
Thank you for your amazing response to this topic! I will certainly keep an eye out on the website for it.
Its shocking how this particular film has been neglected despite being one of Jackie’s best in my opinion. It literally has everything that you would want in a good film!
I agree, it’s one of my favourites and the original dub is one of the reasons. Unfortunately there has been a delay in getting this project finished due to funds. They are currently working on several projects at the moment so this would not be one of their standard releases and would need to be done on a bespoke/side project. These cost quite a bit more so once I have some spare funds available I will ask HKR to proceed and get this project completed. Sorry for prematurely getting your hopes up for this. This is one I’ve wanted for a long time so I won’t be giving up on it.
@MasterWithOkFingers - did you ever manage to get this? I have a rather large collection of classic HK martial art movies with original dubs - and more than happy to share if anything takes your fancy - but I’ve never managed to track this one down.
This looks incredible. Could I also get a link, please? Cheers!
I think maybe “such information” rather than “that information” in the last sentence too, just cause we don’t know exactly what Gunray knows at this point and “that” implies that he definitely has the information, where as “such” just maybe indicates that any possibility of information like that getting out is something that Dooku is going to take very seriously and put a stop to.
Hi Eddie and Vranir
Really great suggestions there! Just a few final thoughts…
Agreed that this works best as the sentence currently stands. However, I was thinking that Obi-Wans initial mission wasn’t to protect the duchess, but to investigate a possible link to separatists on Mandalore. He then encounters the terrorist bombing, finds death watches base of operations and finally stops them from an attempt to blow up mandalores equivalent of Air Force One and kidnap the duchess (paradoxically, since they were more than happy to shoot at her when she was on the moon). The point being, uncovering the identity of Death Watch and stopping both their attempts to harm the Duchess and to gain political footholds seems to be the real success of that mission for obi-wan. So I think a stronger alternative sentence would be…
Agreed that since Ryloth hasn’t been introduced yet it has to be identified as a planet, otherwise you could be watching this for the first time and think Ryloth was a person.
Also upon further reflection, not sure about the “jail” end of that sentence as it sort of supposes that republic law is universal. I think a better alternative would be:
I also just noticed the near rhyme of “plans” and “hands” between the two last sentences and now I can’t unsee it 😂. I think adding a “so easily” at the end would fix that.
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So now just for the sake of clarification the whole crawl would read:
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Hi Eddie, love the thinking behind the crawl. Ties together many things very neatly. Some suggestions though…
(Changed the order of the next two sentences so the events of the last episode are mentioned first.)
(“Successfully safeguarded” works better than “safely protected”, as safely protected implies that you could somehow be “unsafely” protected. I think the word “hunt” is a little too militaristic for the Jedi who are supposedly enlightened and keepers of the peace. So I changed it to “pursuit”. Added “General” Grievous as both Satine and Dooku got their respective titles added when they’re first mentioned in the crawl and it seemed odd to leave it out for him alone.)
(Just some minor tweaks to possibly improve the clarity of the text)
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(Jail not prison cause surely the republic would grant him a trial and not just convict a man without a court order. “Covetous”, I think is a slightly better word here than “greedy”)
(The original text “…learn the location of Grievous, and Dooku’s plans” reads like they want to learn the location of plans made by Grievous and Dooku, so I changed it to make it more clear
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Hi Eddie,
I’ve now watched every episode you’ve done so far and I’m honestly just astounded by the level of work you have put into this. Whilst I was watching I had a fair few little ideas here and there for possible changes but I was too swept up in the excitement to jot anything down. I’m now going to rewatch all of the episodes again and make some notes, since you seem to welcome all feedback and ideas.
I just rewatched the 2.2 cut of Dark Force Rising and it’s truly amazing work. I have one suggestion for a cut though, and that’s… do we really need the anakin/padme reunion scene? It’s just the same horribly clenched “I love you so much but it’s forbidden” dialogue that made us all sick up when we saw ATOC for the first time and doesn’t add anything new to the characters or advance the plot. All it does do is serve to remind us of their love and connection but I think the shot towards the end where Anakin puts his hand through the hologram of Padme is a much more subtle - and less cringey - way of achieving the same thing. So we could cut directly from Yoda saying “A knight, he shall be” to the cool shot of the light streaming in from the open door to the darkened council chamber (or whatever that room is).
Just a thought : )
Great project! I’ve thought about doing this myself. Couple of questions…
Have you reinstated the score across the whole film?
Did you find a cue sheet online somewhere to get the timing as Alex would have planned it or did you just make educated guesses about where and when each cue would start?
Sounds awesome! I’d love a link if possible. Cheers!
Looks intriguing. Could I grab a link? Cheers
Are you still interested în this project ?
OMG Yes!! Never been more interested in a fan edit in my life!! And please re-upload your sample clips! I used to watch them religiously not now they’re all gone! 😦
Please Please give us a release, even a rough cut! Been thinking about this project for so many years!!
Keen to see this!
Sounds interesting!
Oh Wow just found out about this! Huge Trekker and fan edit fan here. Could someone please please direct me to where I might be able to see this? I don’t have a spleen 😦
Sorry, what happened?
did you miss a part?
I have tried to leave the parts up to stream for some time so you can see them…
you should use the subscribe feature on the thread.
I meant that it is split up into parts which is hardly an enjoyable way to experience any film. Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate all your hard work and it looks great, but if it were a full film it may well have replaced my blu-ray as my go to version of the film, where as now that it is broken up into parts its becomes something of a curiosity that will be viewed but likely not with any longevity.
Very disappointed that I won’t be able to see this edit in full, I’ve been following it for months and Enter The Dragon is one of my all-time favourites.
Is this edit still happening? Very interested in this!
I personally am very much in favour of cutting the climbing scene. Even if it does somewhat set up the Kirk facing death dynamic, him talking simply saying “I’ve always known I’ll die alone” (as the preceding dialogue about the fall will have to be cut) at the camp fire is a sufficient - and far less annoying - introduction to the idea.
The opening with Sybok however I think should stay. I’ve always loved that scene, just the way it’s shot, its atmosphere, and particularly how it ends with the reveal of a laughing vulcan - which for any seasoned trekker is a enough to raise an inquisitive eye brow or two and capture or attention.
This looks mighty interesting!
Could someone PM me a link to this if it is still available? Very Interested in seeing it. Thanks!
This sounds awesome, and the pics look great. Very interested to see how this comes along!