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#1448897
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Info: Discussion on <strong>80's cartoons</strong> on DVD....bad aliasing (jaggies)!
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Watched a couple more episodes, noticed some more things:

  • Seems to be a high-pitched whine in the audio, maybe due to YouTube compression?
  • “Dark Awakening” has a glitch in the video at about 10:00, also uses the “Return of Optimus Prime” narration at the end
  • Still plenty of film dirt and scratches visible, some grain in lighter colors as well
  • edge enhancement on lines seems a bit more pronounced due to the upscaling

Still though, probably the best way to watch these officially. I do hope a new film scan is done for Blu-ray someday, but we probably shouldn’t get our hopes up…

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#1448345
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Info: Discussion on <strong>80's cartoons</strong> on DVD....bad aliasing (jaggies)!
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Hasbro has started uploading official versions of The Transformers episodes to their “Hasbro Pulse” Youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/c/hasbropulse/playlists

Have only checked out a couple episodes, but this might be the best quality yet, with a few caveats:

  • Episodes are upscaled to 1080p24 (1080p23.976 to be precise), not new HD remasters from film
  • The video seems to match the Rhino masters rather than the Shout masters, which means that Season 1 in particular is better quality, but there are additional animation mistakes not present in the original broadcast masters (Skywarp/Thundercracker being colored like Starscream [or vice versa] more than usual, etc.)
  • The audio thankfully does not have the added sound effects from the Rhino DVDs
  • There are less jaggies than the DVDs, but they are still present in some frames due to the occasional ITVC error, so the masters are obviously 480i rather than directly from the film source that Rhino used for their DVDs
  • apparently the same versions used on other streaming services (Tubi? not sure), but I haven’t checked to see if they have a higher bitrate or anything
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#1377923
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Info: Which HD-DVD is better than Blu-Ray?
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Falcon said:

There is also World Trade Center, VC-1 + EAC3 1536 kbps on HD-DVD VS Mpeg2 AC3 640 on Blu-Ray.
Other paramount HD-DVD have the same difference with Blu-Ray

The Blu-ray has slightly better detail: http://hd.maltebauer.de/worldtradecenter_bd-vs-hd/01.html
But a new master on UHD would be preferable (not that I particularly want to watch this film again).

I’m looking for the HD-DVD version of Corpse Bride, and The Last Starfighter.

Corpse Bride is from WB, so it has the exact same video encode as the BD, and the audio is still lossy. Plus WB HD DVDs are severely prone to rot.
The Last Starfighter has a new Blu-ray coming out soon from a new 4K master, but no UHD yet.
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Last-Starfighter-Blu-ray/273893/

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#1368203
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Info: Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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a_purist said:

2.0 tracks probably have better compatibility, for example my old Panasonic player outputs 1.0 PCM as 5.1 with only the center channel active, which works but is kind of weird.

That’s probably the reason but are all 2.0 tracks always a duplicate?

If the source was a mono film, they should be, but there are quite a few films that were mono in theaters but remixed to stereo for home video: https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/the-ultimate-list-of-mono-to-stereo-remixed-soundtracks.339481/

2.0 for stuff like Dolby Stereo shouldn’t be duplicated, obviously.

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#1368028
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Info: Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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If I am not mistaken, in these cases it’s a duplicate. The left and right channels are identical (same track). I think that if it were 1.0 it should sound only from the center channel. Is there any advantage with 2 channels? Shouldn’t it always be 1.0?

2.0 tracks probably have better compatibility, for example my old Panasonic player outputs 1.0 PCM as 5.1 with only the center channel active, which works but is kind of weird.

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#1332839
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Info: Discussion on <strong>80's cartoons</strong> on DVD....bad aliasing (jaggies)!
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A Playstation 3 seems to handle the Shout Transformers DVDs pretty good, there is still some minor aliasing visible in pan shots but it doesn’t seem worse than most other animation DVDs.

Have been using a PS3 to watch DVDs and Laserdisc captures more often than my OPPO recently, and I like how the PS3 handles cadence drops, since it blurs the image slightly instead of making it too jagged. Combing also seems less frequent.

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#1328369
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Info: Discussion on <strong>80's cartoons</strong> on DVD....bad aliasing (jaggies)!
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I recently started watching the Japanese Blu-ray box of The Transformers, unfortunately it’s just the old broadcast masters from the 1999 Japanese DVDs slapped onto SD on BD, MPEG2 encoding and all. Minor composite artifacts, but not too bad.

At least they’re better than the Rhino/Shout DVDs in that they have much more consistent PQ (haven’t compared the broadcast footage on the Shout DVDs, but it might be better), almost perfect film cadence with next to no aliasing, and of course there’s no need to worry about unfixed animation (I think there’s still a couple instances in the Shout DVDs, but not sure).

But a big minus would be the fact that all the episodes (except a handful) only have the Japanese dub audio (which I kinda like since I watch a lot of old anime but it’s no substitute for the original cast), and I think some episodes have minor cuts.

The JP Laserdiscs might be a better option if one has the Domesday86 device, runs a modern Y/C filter and IVTC on the captures, and then adds the English audio + missing cuts. The decoding software for Domesday86 probably still needs some more time to mature, though.

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#1294209
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Info: Discussion on <strong>80's cartoons</strong> on DVD....bad aliasing (jaggies)!
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Watched a couple The Transformers (season 2) episodes on the Shout Factory DVDs for the first time in a long while, and while I definitely noticed the aliasing, to me it was only noticeable in maybe 3-5% of each ep, mostly during certain pan shots.

Maybe all that’s needed is to do some minor filtering on the frames where the aliasing is noticeable? I have very little experience with AVIsynth or encoding video, so I couldn’t do this myself.

I didn’t check the Shout Factory DVDs on my PC, but I seem to remember the Rhino DVDs being progressively encoded (for the most part) when I watched them on my PC back in the day, so perhaps they were improperly deinterlaced before encoding, and the Shout Factory DVDs carried over the deinterlacing artifacts? I’ve personally seen a lot of anime DVDs like this in Japan from Toei (mostly 70’s super robot anime), where the episodes were progressive but had bad jaggies during pan shots.

The fact that the episodes were remastered from film makes them more than watchable compared to most US cartoon DVDs IMO, but a proper Blu-ray release would certainly be welcome. Although I seem to remember reading that the producer -(forget his name even though I regularly read the Shout Factory forums back in the day) in charge of animation at Shout Factory hates Blu-ray for whatever reason, not sure if he’s still working there or not.

But I assume if Rhino could remaster all the episodes from film elements for their DVD release, then the film should at least still be available for a new scan, although there still might be a need to have some sequences inserted from the broadcast masters, like the Shout Factory DVDs, since the film that Rhino used was apparently from before certain animation mistakes were fixed for broadcast.

But sheesh, can’t believe it’s been 10 years since the Shout Factory DVDs, and like 20 since the Rhino DVDs… Freaking time, man.

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#1268215
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<strong>4K77</strong> - Released
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Thanks for the response, it’s 4K77 UHD v1.0. I also have the 1080p Grindhouse version, but was kinda hoping to make use of the 4K monitor I bought the other day.
Looking at the bitrates, it seems 4K77 is considerably higher than 4K83, so I wonder if the Panasonic player can’t handle bitrates that high over USB (although the USB stick is USB 3).
I also have an XBone S, I’ll try playing it on that later this week, although some posts on Reddit seem to indicate that the audio has to be Dolby Digital.

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#1268057
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<strong>4K77</strong> - Released
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ChainsawAsh said:

Just put it on a flash drive and plug it into your player. I’d be stunned if it couldn’t play the MKV (though you might have to remux with only one audio track and/or a non-DTS-HD MA track). Plus you won’t waste discs on something that might not work and you won’t have to deal with switching discs in the middle.

Well, 4K77 does indeed play off of a USB stick, but for some reason it’s really choppy like it’s playing at 6 fps. I made sure to re-mux with just one audio track. Did the same with 4K83, and that seemed to play fine. Only having problems with 4K77…

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#1245061
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Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)
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That’s certainly your prerogative, but if it were me I’d at least put think the original theatrical subtitles (or what’s assumed to be them) in an alternative subtitles folder or something for those that want them, and then just not manage this folder as thoroughly as the main subtitles. Seems a waste to just delete them from the project completely.

Edit: oh, and furigana can be done in AegiSub by making a new line, changing the font size, then dragging the line into place in the video preview pane.

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#1244815
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Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)
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Yeah, if you use the subtitle set that matches the more accurate ones on that website then you should be fine if accuracy is your main concern. But not sure why you’d want to purposely give people less options, as subtitles don’t take up that much data, right? Even if some translations are less accurate, some people might have a lot of nostalgia for them. But it’s your project.

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#1244007
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Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)
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Yeah, the old subtitles are probably much less accurate, the dubs too. I remembered how off some of them were when watching that anime style trailer recently. As bad as English subtitles can be for anime, I dunno what translators were thinking for some Japanese subtitles. It’s like sometimes they get bored and decide to just rewrite lines for the heck of it, assuming they understood the original dialogue in the first place.

For posterity, I think that the theatrical subtitles should be preserved and always kept as an option, but if you want to also make the newer ones available, those would probably be appreciated as well.

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#1213852
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Preserving DTS LaserDisc tracks, specifically Jurassic Park
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Thanks for the response, but unfortunately DTS Parser stopped parsing the wav file about 10 minutes in. Is it possible to correct the wav file before parsing?

edit: If not, I’ll have to try that “cockos reaper” that zeropc mentioned in the thread you linked. Never had any problems with AC3 but DTS is another story…

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#1143598
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Preserving DTS LaserDisc tracks, specifically Jurassic Park
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Been trying to capture the DTS from the Japanese LD for “Hard Target”.

First recorded a minute of test audio from coaxial on a Pioneer X9 at 44.1 kHz, 16 bit wav using Sound Forge. BeSplit v0.9b6 had no trouble converting it with the following command:
BeSplit -core( -input c:\test16bit.wav -output H:\test16bit.dts -type dtswav -fix )

I then split the test16bit.dts file into 5 wav files using eac3to, and they all played fine without any distortion or anything. So far so good…

I went and captured the whole movie (settings unchanged), but when I tried to convert it to DTS, BeSplit stopped converting at about 45 minutes in (a few minutes before the side change). When trying to convert to 5 wav files, eac3to gave me this error:
This track is not clean.
libDcaDec reported the error “Invalid bitstream format”.
Aborted at file position 45350912.

I also tried converting the .wav to .dts using DTS Parser, but it stopped only about 10 minutes in (eac3to was able to convert this .dts file to 5 wavs, however).

Tried recording some tests at 24 bit and 32 bit float, and also tried recording using Audacity, but BeSplit wouldn’t convert any of these.

Anyone have any clues at to what could be wrong?

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#1095309
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Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)
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CatBus said:

Yeah, player support for overlapping/adjacent subtitles is pretty spotty. On my end, the way I work around it is to not have them. I’m sorry to say that may need to be your solution as well, if MPC-HC playback is not an option.

Well, I also have a Popcorn Hour (I think it handles overlapping subtitles OK but haven’t checked recently), but for some reason it has a slight delay in displaying subtitles from BDMV folder structures. Building a media center PC (with perfect 23.976 playback) might be an option, but I don’t really want to go to the trouble right now. I’d like to get a new media player that handle all kinds of subtitles like a PC, not sure if such a media player exists but as to not clutter up your thread further, I made a request for suggestions here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Media-player-recommendations/id/56098