Looking forward to this.
EPISODES 7 & 8 Restructured
The Last Jedi has memorable moments and quality visuals but really lacks in character development when in regards to The Force Awakens. The Force Awakens has more clear character arcs. For this reason I want to reorganize, edit, and add in FX. I am however not too experienced with editing. I’ve been using VSDC Free Editor and have been liking it. I need to know how to incorporate surround sound, Rotoscoping FX, generally I just need more experience. The highlights of this edit I suppose is that Rey does not use force powers until she meets Luke, Han dies during Episode VIII instead of VII, and that Starkiller Base is also saved for Episode VIII. Its like the last act of my episode 7 is the last act of The Last Jedi, re-edited, and then the 1st act of my episode 8 is the last act of The Force Awakens.
• The film plays out normally until Finn and Rey escape from Jakku in the Millennium Falcon. Finn and Rey then introduce each other. Finn asks BB-8 to take them to the Resistance base. Kylo Ren is upset that the droid escaped with the help of Finn and Rey. The film will play out differently from here. • Finn and Rey arrive on Yavin IV and are immediately met with Han Solo and Chewbacca. No Ranthar chase, cut them hiding under the floor and just cut to han asking about who stole the Falcon. Han talks about Luke and the force. • Finn and BB-8 exit the Falcon and find Poe Dameron alive (Cut Finn asking Poe for Help). Finn and Poe enter the base and speak with Princess Leia. (Only include thank yous, finn and leia do not need help.) • BB-8 meets C3PO and 3PO explains how R2D2 has been in sleep mode since Lukes disappearance. • Cut to Rey going down into the basement and finding Anakin’s blue lightsaber. • R2D2 then wakes up to help show the way to Luke. • Rey leaves and goes to find Luke. (Not really sure if she should take the Falcon though. This is where Rotoscoping might be nice to incorporate a different ship for her on Acto because Han Solo is still alive.) • With Rey gone the First Order arrive using the footage from the Maz Kanata castle raid scene. Han, Chewie, and Finn fight them off on the ground as Poe Dameron takes to the skys. • Using the evacuation of Yavin Base from The Last Jedi, the Resistance leave Yavin IV. Poe destroys the dreadnaught. The ship takes off into hyperspace. (Cut out General Hux) • Rey arrives on Acto with a different ship and meets Luke Skywalker. • The Resistance run to the abandoned Crait Base and wait for the First Order to follow them there. Luke appears and helps the resistance escape with his force projection. (Han and Chewie are rotoscoped into the scene with Luke and Leia. I had scene a post where a user mentioned doing this along with Han flying the Falcon off Crait.) Rey is not here.
I am honestly not entirely sure on the order of the scenes for episode VIII yet. Need to watch The Last Jedi more first. The general idea is that Han Solo dies in Episode VIII, then Leia dies after the Tie Fighters blow up the Ship, and Luke dies after Rey does not turn to the dark side and join Ben.
• Kylo Ren is told by Snoke to kill his parents. • General Hux Starkiller Base Nazi speech. • Possibly actually have Maz Kanata’s Castle and using the shots of the Falcon on the outskirts of the castle make it seem like the whole Resistance is there. Even if we take out Maz Kanata herself we could at least probably show the bar scene and then show the Resistance on the outskirts, kinda like they are just camping out not really trying to stay in one place to long. • The Resistance talks about how they can take down Starkiller Base. (Trim scene to make Admiral Ackbar, Han, and Leia the only ones who really know how to take down Starkiller Base) • Leia tells Han to bring their son home. • Rey following Luke. Luke drinks some Blue Milk. • Han, Chewie, and Finn land on Starkiller Base. • Rey goes to Starkiller Base to try to turn Ben to the lightside against Lukes advice. She meets up with Han, Chewie, and Finn. Han Solo is killed by his son. (Have to assume she still has the Rotoscoped ship and not the Falcon.) • Starkiller Base destroys the Hosnian System/Corosaunt. • Finn gets sliced in the back by Kylo. Rey returns him to the resistance. She hugs Leia and leaves in the Falcon with Chewie and R2D2. as she goes back to Luke. • Rey comes back to Luke in the Falcon along with Chewie and he asks what happened to Han. This is why Luke not that nice to Rey throughout the movie because of the death of his friend. • Leia dies by Kylo Ren’s Tie fighters. The Luke and Yoda scene should follow shortly after and Luke almost burns the texts out of rage because he felt Leia’s death. • Rey leaves Luke again to go to Snokes ship after the dark side mirror cave. Finn wakes up and asks Poe where Rey is and that is how he ends up on Snokes ship. A chance to fight Phasma after she disables the shields in the same movie. • Luke dies after we see that Rey does not make the decision to join the dark side with Kylo, because like Yoda his mission was completed in training The Last Jedi. End Credits, no broom boy. All the original trilogy actors now all die together in this movie.
This is just a general concept idea I have been thinking about. Like I said I really have to watch The Last Jedi more.
I was thinking about some pretty radical changes. Luke dying on the end for not much pretty much bothered me. So, what if Luke destroyed starkiller base in the end of the and then died. He meditates and then dies because he blew up a whole planet. Obviously this would require many changes. The change would have to move the the starkiller sequence to tlj. The planets that starkiller base blow up need somethibg. Maybe the dreadnaught from tlj fires and blow up the planets. Moving that sequence to TFA.
Luke’s Jedi training in tlj could happen in the first movie. Snoke’s throne room is on starkiller base.
The link between kylo and Rey happens immediately when they meet.
These are some pretty radical edits but would be pretty amazing.
Wacko idea combining both movies:
Why not let Rey go to training before the whole Starkiller thingy is even introduced. Make it a mellow entry to the story where the villain (Kylo) still stays mysterious. She arrives and starts her training after retrieving the lightsaber and having been confronted with Kylo once.
Fast forward 5 years. First order has built starkiller base. Rey is in full training mode. Now, somehow mix together the ship chase and the starkiller thing and the planet being destroyed and rey and kylo having their first lightsaber fight and things suddenly make much more sense. She now has had the training to justify holding up against Kylo a little.
Not sure about the details (would like to include Snoke etc. as well) but that can still be worked out. Lots of stuff would obviously fall away.
I do like the idea. I think having the link between kylo and Rey established in the first movie is great. This would be a way to do that. The climax of his alternate force awakens movie could be the evacuation of the resistance base and the destruction of the first order dreadnaught. Poe does his ludicrous attack on it and blows it up with the sacrifice of the heroes of the bomber squadron. Cut to end. Open with canto bight maybe because the fleet is being followed by snoke in the supremacy and they need a slicer… Then Hux and snoke go to star killer base. The throne room is in star killer base. This also avoids the catastrophicly ill thought out hyperspeed to take out the supremacy. Instead the slicer routine works and they escape. Only to find out the starkiller base will destroy planets.
Maybe… It would require some fancy editing and the source material may not be there to do it. I’d love to see it attempted though.
I’m not sure how it would work. In my mind, they’re the Knights of Ren.
My thought too, so why would they attack him.
I also did not like in the recollection of Luke wanting to kill his nephew in his sleep, the Knights of Ren never came up. What exactly was snoke doing to these guys to get them to turn to the dark side? We may never know.
Somebody had the idea of opening the movie with canto bight. Finn is simply awake. You cut maz Kanata explanation. Cut the drippy Finn scene. Cut scene with rose and him in the escape pod and she zaps him. The last scenes (minus the ring) could set the stage as part of the canto bight sequence either at the front or at the end of it. Truncate this sequence a lot overall. Cut the chase. Cut the beach landing. They find DJ in jail and get on the stolen ship back to the fleet. Then cut to TFA chewie and Rey landing on achto.
There was something that bothered me about the throne room sequence. The praetorian guards are just mooks that Rey and kylo deal with after snoke. Why would they just throw their lives away. I assume these are highly loyal bad ass soldiers but not dumb robots. They see snoke dead. They attack. They see he died by a light saber that was sitting at his throne. Kylo would be the next in line would they now be loyal to him? These guys are loyal to snoke or the first order?
While I really liked the cool fight scene, Rey and kylo’s enemy lacked purpose. What if it were rearranged. Kylo and Rey fight the praetorian guard before snoke dies. This would be a condensed fight. I do not know if it would work. But the mopping up of the mooks after the big show stopper of snoke dieing changes the pacing and tone. After they mop them up there is great dialog there too.
This is one of the best parts of the movie, and messing with it may not be worth while or possible. But…
Here is an assessment of things I think should be paired down and or removed.
Yoda ghost lightning stroke. He is a ghost and should not affect the real world. Luke lights the tree and saves the books as shown later.
Supremacy mega ship destroyed because of a hyperspace ship. If this was possible why didn’t they just destroy the deathstar this way? This is the first thing that I said when the movie ended. I have no idea why the ship is blowing up in the last part though.
The boy at the end. Sorry cut it, end with the prior scene of falcon, chat, tuck in rose and see jedi books then cut to lightspeed and iris closes, cue music. If the boy becomes important in IX, move that scene to IX.
Move Rey Luke scene from end of VII to beginning of VIII.
Cut Luke tossing saber over shoulder. cut milking. Cut porgs. cut caretakers. cut snarky luke.
Because Snoke was a red herring with no reason to exist, could he be cut from VII and VIII altogether? It would take some tricky editing and may not even be possible. Otherwise, elude he was the clone of palpatine. I mean come on. No background. Nothing.
Snoke did not initiate the mind link between kylo and rey. Because kylo and rey, have the mind link after snoke is dead.
Remove the recalling of Luke trying to kill his nephew in his sleep. Perhaps, just cut the recollection out entirely. Because, there is no mention of snoke, knights of ren, or anything that we thought might be there. Instead we only see the conflicted Luke who quits over it. Not good.
Like everyone else. Edit the Mary Poppins Leia scene to be more believable. Perhaps start the scene of here flying while she is already really close. She did not fly out so far and need to travel back so far.
The guy with the red flower in his lapel, cut him. Yeah they are looking a code breaker not a specific one. The Canto Bight sequence is failure for them. They find a code breaker in prison. Cool.
Cut Maz Kanata. How do they learn to go to Canto Bight though?
Cut poker chip spitting from BB8.
Cut BB8 in the AT-ST.
Luke actually went to crait. He just got blasted by the lasers and died. It does not make sense to me that he died because he projected himself. Am I wrong about that?
Likely other changes too. Need to see it again.