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#1104851
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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ChainsawAsh said:

Really? I love it, personally.

X2
This is one of the reasons why a revived PT is essential (whoever finally makes the thing). To be the visual backstory for the OT. All the beat up ships the rebels use were once state of the art republic ships. The beat up ships of the PT should be from even earlier ages. Seeing the Imperial ships as wrecks being salvaged in the ST carries the theme forward.

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#1104794
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Mac's Wishlist Of Ideas/Suggestions For Improving RETURN OF THE JEDI
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There is a chance of other editors gaining the momentum to make some additional changes. It is a shame these ideas aren’t on one of the other threads but it’s your thread. Getting your ideas out there is good for everyone interested in this sort of work, The StarKiller Ranch thread of old was full of fun ideas too.

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-legendary-Starkiller-Ranch-Thread/id/3886/page/1

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#1104758
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Random Thoughts
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I rather like Cabaret, Rocky Horror and Jesus Christ Superstar just for the music alone (the acting and design are fantastic too) Hedwig is an amazing experience. I saw a stage production but the film was much better.

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#1104755
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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doubleofive said:

As for those mourning the PTR, I firmly believe that Adywan was not your last hope. There are plenty of talented people on this forum and others who have been reworking the prequels for years.

There have been many, many PT edits some of which add a few new effects to get their reinterpretation of the stories across. There were a couple Ady style total reworkings started a while back but news of those has gone very cold (hopefully because the editors in question are too busy doing it to comment). It’s been a weird couple of weeks for me and perhaps I invested too much hope in the whole six part saga thing (for the second time in my life 😄 ). ROTJ:R and PT:R were the Ady projects that interested me the most. I’m grateful that at least one is still going to happen. But I will probably mourn the loss of the latter the most because of the possibilities it offered. Very few people will complain about major changes to the PT. The first two films were classics of any genre so people tend to get more tetchy about altering them. The gauntlet has been thrown hopefully someone will pick it up.

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#1104672
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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adywan said:

While it will be next year at least before i write up all the ideas i had for the PT, this is one thing that was worked on. It was to be included in the Complete Saga trailer i had planned, but when decided not to do the PT, it was scrapped and never properly finished, so is still in its very rough stages.

https://youtu.be/JhdKtsZNAHQ

I don’t mean to guilt trip you Ady but this just makes me even more depressed. The PT needs to be done by someone. You were my last hope, cue Yoda 😃

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#1104459
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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I suggested that Wookies be part of the rebel task force sent down to the planet so they do get some presence in the final battle. I don’t mind Ewoks if they are treated as a culture that makes sense instead of sometimes cute things to sell toys.
I did a mockup of Wookies at the rebel briefing on the wishlist thread but I can’t find the image anymore 😦

JEDIT (found it)

Bingowings said:

Replacing Ewoks with Wookiees is impossible, but adding more to the taskforce might be doable :

Wookiee Rebels

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#1104415
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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Editroid said:

Anakin was Obi-Wan’s padawan. It’s natural that he would be younger than him, and not necessarily his “contemporary.”

You could argue that decades of using the dark side and feeling the full force of the Emperor’s lighting accounted for Anakin looking old under the mask. The emperor looks over 100. Just use stock footage of Prowse at the right age as a ghost.

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#1104321
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Random Thoughts
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Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

Final, Final day at my current job today.
It feels weird.
I did two ten hour shifts this week to clear my desk. So now I’ve kind of run out of things to do but a co-worker who is also leaving today and myself are really not sure what is happening next. very strange 😄

I hope you are moving to a new and better job and not getting fired or something like that.

The funding for our service came to an end and the organisation I have been in secondment to dragged their feet putting in funding bids. So I haven’t been sacked, my employers were very pleased with my contribution but I haven’t got anything to move onto. I’ve made lots of applications but nothing successful yet. To cap it off my partner has decided to move in the spring. He owns the house but I own the contents so that’s a added layer of stress I could do without at the moment.

Sorry to hear of your troubles. I hope things get better for you.

Thanks Warb. It’s greatly appreciated 🙂

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#1104206
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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G E Predator said:

Bingowings said:

G E Predator said:

I’m super glad that Ady is gonna remove “Jedi Rocks” and (hopefully) restore “Lapti Nek.” While I don’t hate “Jedi Rocks,” I feel it was disrespectful to remove “Lapti Nek” in the first place since it was composed by Joseph Williams, the son of John Williams. Imagine how pissed off Joseph must have been to have his only contribution removed from the movie.

Lapti Nek is pretty awful too.

The soundtrack version is pretty good 😃 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfyLDh_Ea3w

Each to their own but I find the original theatrical version to be more tolerable and less disco.

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#1104201
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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I quote this from the ‘saga’ thread.

Bingowings said:

I would start with the Executor dwarfing an already giant Star Destroyer and itself being engulfed in the shadow of the now large in screen second Death Star.

I would make the officers station look less stagey.

I would prefer a new actor to replace Michael Pennington (a fine actor only doing what he was told).

His Moff Jejerrod acts much too cowardly to hold such a high rank and his delivery is awful.

I would have him careful around Vader but not constantly camp and scared shitless. Vader acts demoted in most of this film and yet the opening scenes make his seem more feared than the Emperor.

I would also have him ask for more men to guard the moon (I’ll explain later), not build the station, (don’t they have droids for that?).

The next scene would be Dagobah.

Luke returned there after the events of the previous film and has been continuing his training.

He is constructing a new lightsaber using telekinesis. When he finishes he notices Yoda looking unwell (this can be done with a body double and a bit of digital jiggery pokery).

The Yoda death scene plays out largely as in the film but he doesn’t die. He tells Luke there is another Skywalker in a clear way and is still alive when Luke leaves.

Yoda dying mid-conversation is cornball and unconvincing.

Jabba’s palace, Booush arrives to a calm audience with the Hutt (no Threepio) it’s all done with subtitles.

Any efforts to tone down the cartoonish nature of some of the court would be most welcome.

Luke lands near Ben’s house.

The Falcon and a Y-Wing are also visible.

Luke calls out to Leia and Chewie, Threepio rushes up to meet him in a fuss, “I tried to stop her” etc.

Luke enters the house and Ben’s ghost tells him that Leia is his sister he resolves to rescue her.

Boba Fett leaves the palace and we see his ship take off near the palace.

Back at the palace Leia releases Han and gets captured.

Threepio and Artoo head to the palace, they are scanned by the robot eye thing, it seems to know something is up with Artoo but lets them in anyway.

The Palace is in party mood.

No song (no Lapti Nek or Jedi Rocks) but lots of exotic dance.

Leia is chained up.

Luke’s message is played.

Artoo and Threepio are lead away.

Threepio is put on translator duty.

Artoo attempts to interfere with 9D9 but she reassures him that it will not be necessary (someone is protecting them).

THERE IS NO COMEDY TORTURE SCENE.

Luke arrives,

HE DOESN’T CHOKE THE GUARDS.

He uses the Force to push the skull into position to activate the switch and kill the Rancor.

No crying Rancor Keeper.

Swoop bikes and mid sized barges added to the pit party.

The Sarlacc beak is removed but the mouth is bigger and the creature heaves itself from the sand (yes a bit like the sand worms in Dune but we all know where Lucas got the idea so let’s not kid ourselves).

It’s more active at grabbing people with it’s tendrils than in any other version.

Fett isn’t there so no air swim, Force Kick goes too.

Artoo uses his PT era jets to push Threepio to safety (no comedy magnets).

The barge snaps in half like that boat film with Leonardo DeCaprio.

We see Slave One approach the rebel fleet it lands and Fett gives something to a Rebel official.

He is paid and takes off.

He contacts Vader and informs him that the rebels have the information he supplied.

Vader tells him he will be paid.

Fett doesn’t die, gets paid twice and isn’t seen or heard of again (he is a bounty hunter a mercenary and doesn’t care who wins or loses as long as he is paid).

The Emperor arrives in a shuttle that looks more fancy than Vader’s.

The briefing happens. No medical droids need attend but it would be cool if Dodonna and Rieekan could be there.

I would also like more Wookiees.

Anything that can be done to make the room look less like a cheap set would be welcome.

No Bothan’s died to give us the information which is worth the price they paid.

Tydirium is an Imperial Transporter ship not a shuttle.

The Executor set is returned to it’s ESB glory and the uniforms and insignia are fixed.

When the Rebels land they walk by neglected/damaged wooden sculptures and/or totems.

They find the decapitated head of a stormtrooper which triggers the trap (Wookiees can eat human meat and not be cannibals).

All the pebble eyes of the Ewoks are gone as and less sweet looking teeth would be welcome.

At the village there are signs of dead imperials troops turned into art everywhere (now you can see why Jerjerrod needs more men).

A totem showing a god that looks like Threepio would be welcome.

Artoo uses his holoprojector to plaster scary faces (Maul etc) onto Threepio.

A floating chair alone would not be enough to spook them after all they have seen since the Empire landed (they have a new moon for crying out loud).

The Ewoks have already been planning an attack on the base (those traps don’t appear from nowhere).

When Luke asks about his mother Leia gives him the neckless Anakin made for Padme.

When he tells her she is his sister she knows somehow but she never "ALWAYS KNEW (that snogging was an accident).

The generator base now draws power from a large waterfall.

It is visable and the sound is audible when Vader confronts his son (this will evoke memories of Naboo and add to Vader’s inner turmoil).

He says, “Your Mother once thought as you do”.

The 'backdoor" to the base is now a funicular service elevator to the projector dish.

It takes the Rebels up, not down and leads to a structure under the dish which they plan to sever (there are too many reactor explosions in the saga as it is, we don’t need three in one film).

When Lando calls for the ships to pull back to avoid the shield, some miss and collide with it.

More featured pilots, more A-wing/B-Wing action maybe a really hot-rodded battered old Naboo fighter or two.

There really is an entire legion of troops on top of those you would expect to be guarding an important base.

The Rebels have brought guns with them and there are more of them thanks to the bigger ship (including Wookiees).

The AT-AT enters the ground battle and Tie Bombers set fires.

Troopers get killed with a bit of tasteful gore.

Ewoks are killed.

Leia getting shot is moved up to when Luke is trying not to think about her.

When Palpatine is trying to kill Luke the neckless rolls out of his tunic and Vader sees it.

This is the straw that snaps him back to the light side.

We see Palpatine fall face up and with a better matte.

The Executor gets a better send off.

The dish snaps and slides into the valley (it doesn’t blow up half the forest).

The, “Cop-Pee-Gold-Lee-Dar” guy is gone.

Leia and Han watch the station explode sitting in the remains of the giant dish.

Luke burns the body of Vader.

We see the ghosts of Ben and the Yoda (we now know he has died).

We then see the ghosts of Padme and Anakin (Anakin’s subconscious good has restored him and preserved the people he loves not a too busy to show up Liam Neeson),

Our heroes celebrate.

Weesa Free!” is not the last line of the first six films.

The Corsucant ‘celebrations’ are a riotous uprising. X-wings swoop from the sky and shoot down TIEs.

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#1104141
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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G E Predator said:

I’m super glad that Ady is gonna remove “Jedi Rocks” and (hopefully) restore “Lapti Nek.” While I don’t hate “Jedi Rocks,” I feel it was disrespectful to remove “Lapti Nek” in the first place since it was composed by Joseph Williams, the son of John Williams. Imagine how pissed off Joseph must have been to have his only contribution removed from the movie.

Lapti Nek is pretty awful too.

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#1104035
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Random Thoughts
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Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

Final, Final day at my current job today.
It feels weird.
I did two ten hour shifts this week to clear my desk. So now I’ve kind of run out of things to do but a co-worker who is also leaving today and myself are really not sure what is happening next. very strange 😄

I hope you are moving to a new and better job and not getting fired or something like that.

The funding for our service came to an end and the organisation I have been in secondment to dragged their feet putting in funding bids. So I haven’t been sacked, my employers were very pleased with my contribution but I haven’t got anything to move onto. I’ve made lots of applications but nothing successful yet. To cap it off my partner has decided to move in the spring. He owns the house but I own the contents so that’s a added layer of stress I could do without at the moment.

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#1104025
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The Jabba Movie
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I wish I had the time and patience to replace Brando and DeNero with the CGI Jabba circa 1997. Now that would be a trilogy worth watching.

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