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#1181375
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Who Was Kira? - The Lucas Sequels
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I am fascinated by the brief descriptions of the setting of GL’s conception of a sequel trilogy. Some of it lines up with what the real-life sequel trilogy has delivered.

We got the hero trio in their old age ("…wouldn’t it be fun to get all the actors to come back when they’re 60 or 70 years old and make three more about them as old people?" - GL).

We got some exploration of what really separates good from evil, Light from Darkness (“Eventually you have to face the fact that good and evil aren’t that clear-cut and the real issue is trying to understand the difference.” - GL).

Even the concept of an older Luke exiling himself to a remote Jedi Temple is carried over from the Lucas notes.

Now what I am more interested in is how the Lucas story has already differed from what has transpired in TFA/LJ. It seems at some point Lucas wanted the big bad of the ST to be a Dark Side Ghost of Palpatine.

From the Making of ESB book:
‘In the end the Emperor does exactly what Ben did; he can also transform himself. As Ben becomes the personification of the good side of the force, the Emperor is the bad’.

The larger galactic political situation is also substantially different in the Disney ST from what Lucas was kicking around in his head…“The last three episodes involve the rebuilding of the Republic.”, another Lucas quote. That’s not at all what has happened thus far, and I am looking at Starkiller Base!

Lastly there is a scant mention of a young female Jedi disciple known as “Kira”. It makes sense to me personally that this woman eventually became Rey of Jakku, but my imagination abounds with the possibilities of what got lost in the shuffle between Lucas’ vision and Disney’s.

So what do you think? What do you believe could have been?

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#1161024
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Should I Write Episode Two First?
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Here’s an idea: Many of the difficulties fan writers encounter when crafting alternate prequels can be overcome by writing Episode II first, followed by the other two in chronological order.

As I ponder how to write a set of prequels which more accurately fit the tone and themes of the OT, I am struck by the realization that Episode II is the hardest one to do right. There are numerous difficulties that are unique to the task of writing the middle act of a story. It is a large part of why AOTC bombed so hard, because it’s an unenviable task.

If you can make your absolute damndest sure that Episode II is a compelling installment from a story perspective and not merely a series of events which bridge the gap between the start and end of the prequels, yours will be a much more compelling work overall.

I believe a prudent course of action would be to start with writing Episode II, work my way backwards to I, and then jump forwards to III.

Thoughts?

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#1155936
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How to refer to Star Wars?
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The “pile of dramatic heads” look was old before it was born. I would have been perfectly satisfied if the poster of each SW film consisted of…

A deep space background behind a blazing star. The jet black silhouette of a major character in an action pose is cut out of the star, with the lowest point of the character’s silhouette (their toe or something) just barely touching the bottom edge of the foreground star’s circumference.

And below that reads the title, STAR WARS EPISODE (number): (title).

Does anyone else see the picture I am trying to draw with words? I am not much good with photoshop and I am on a phone.

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#1152516
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Episode IX Discussion <strong><em>Spoiler Thread</em></strong>
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So, are they just going to completely gloss over the other students at Luke’s academy? Apparently like most of them died and a handful became Knights of Ren, which seems like something too big to simply ignore. I mean these are apparently the only other trained Force users anywhere. Where the hell are they???

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#1150730
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How much in universe time do RotS and TESB cover?
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TESB taking place over months makes some sense if you assume the Falcon has reserve foodstuffs to sustain the crew for long journeys. That way Luke has ample time to do his elementary Jedi Knight training with Yoda on Dagobah.

When ROTJ gets involved is the point the timeline starts to confuse me. Luke’s maturity and advanced skills would indicate a significant duration of time has elapsed since Cloud City, perhaps three to five years. Yet they rescue Han on Tatooine which was mentioned as their immediate point of rendezvous at the end of TESB. The Wiki indicates that a year separates TESB and ROTJ. That seems like an attempt to split the difference.

As for how long the events of ROTJ last, I would say it starts with two days for all the Jabba stuff. Then add another day for Luke to return to Dagobah and for Han and Leia to rendezvous with the fleet. Then another day to land on Endor and gain the trust of the Ewoks, the night of which Luke reveals his relation to Leia and surrenders himself to the Imperials. Then the next day is Final Battle Day, when the bunker attack, fleet battle, and throne room fight all happen at once. That is a total of five subjective Earth days elapsed.

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#1148635
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Episode IX Discussion <strong><em>Spoiler Thread</em></strong>
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Is Disney really just going to hope against hope that the billions of movie-watchers who heard Snoke himself utter the phrase “Knights of Ren” in the previous film will never wonder what become of the KoR?

Edit: I ask this rhetorically because they were never touched upon in TLJ and that seems like a glaring omission from the narrative.

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#1147928
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Alternative Prequel Ideas
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A few of my ideas for a prequel trilogy rewrite.

Anakin was born and raised on the same planet where he fights Obi-Wan and gets burned by lava.

The Sith ruled the galaxy before the Republic. The Republic was founded by Force-sensitive slaves who overthrew their Sith masters.

Palpatine engineered the Clone Wars by secretly transferring cloning tech from a Republic agricultural planet to a warlike species in the Unknown Regions.

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#1147782
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The Sequel Trilogy we wanted...
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As for an ST “we” would have wanted (“we” being a very nebulous term), it would revolve around Luke’s training of a new generation of Jedi being interrupted by an extra-galactic threat, maybe the Vong or maybe something else. Then at some point in the trilogy, Luke becomes enraged and destroys an entire planet infested with these extragalactic invaders, like he uses the Dark Side to physically annihilate an entire world. This prompts his self-exile, perhaps to be re-discovered and brought back into the fight for Episode IX where he finally dies.

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#1147780
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The Sequel Trilogy we wanted...
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theprequelsrule said:
Have you never run through alternatives to the Alien 3 film we got and said, “Man, that would have been so much better!”?

Yes. I daydream in this manner frequently regarding movies that did not quite do it for me. In my version of Alien 3, Ripley would have birthed the xenomorph about a third of the way through the film and the Alien would turn out to be a benevolent protector of Newt and Hicks. It might be too “out there” for a lot of people, but at least it would be something new: a heroic Alien.

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#1135876
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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I do not doubt for a second that the Civil War centered around slavery.

But countries come and go. A more decentralized, non-capitalistic model of socio-political/econonic organization is whats needed for the people here. I do not advocate for reaching towards any sort of utopia, as down that road lies a heap of atrocities regardless of the specific vision to which the utopianists in question aspire. I simply think that the US 50 state model has outlived its usefulness and that it is about time for world history to proceed under the aegis of the Eastern powers, China and India.

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#1135859
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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It bugs my bones that Americans associate separatism with white supremacist ideals and slavery. I wholeheartedly believe that sooner rather than later this country will split into an increasing number of successor republics. I am certain that some of those, particularly the states that emerge in the Southeast, will be pretty much like apartheid states, even more so than the US is currently. However I would expect better of the states that arise in the North and the West.

Tl;dr, some Americans want to secede for non-shitty reasons.