Ady, are you not going to do a news group release for this like you did the ANH:R DVD?
I would like Ady release ESB:R in April during the starwars celebration, or in may when starwars turns 40.
It’s good to see you back on the forums Ady. Anyway, the new clip was top notch. The new Cg falcon and Tie shots were great. Is the Animator going to contribute to the next edit?
Can’t say much about the wampa sculpt as it’s still in it’s beginning stages. Is this eventually going to be a complete suit or is is just going to be the head only for the inserts?
Been A while since i posted here, and I see why, unfortunately. I’m not surprised in the least that ady decided to do this. The lack of updates and any interaction on this thread was good indication that ady was loosing interest here.
Hope you get your personal issues sorted out ady.
Yeah it’s crazy that it didn’t have AC-3 on laserdisc. I scratch my head at some of the titles they did release in AC-3 on laser disc that didn’t deserve it. Perhaps MGM didn’t bother to supply shout factory with the 5.1 master. All shout factory had to do was up-mix the stereo PCM to 5.1. It’s been done on tons of other movies that were only made in dolby stereo.
Looking forward to the finished product.
Neither LD has Dolby Digital it seems. You can see the back of the U.S laserdisc here.
The movie poster only shows DTS, (and DTS stereo) so it might be one of those releases that had no Dolby Digital theatrical mix at all. Non DTS theaters would have played it in DTS Stereo, which was Dolby surround compatible.
I guess LDDB is wrong about the US laserdisc. In any case, you’re right - there was no Dolby Digital theatrical mix, only DTS.
Progress update: I have successfully converted the DTS files to seperate mono WAVs for each channel. Slow and steady…!
I’m really surprised that hackers was not one of the early titles released on Laser Disk with AC-3 ( aka. Dolby Digital ). The decoding hardware arrived in stores fall of 1995 while the software arrived early in that same year with Clear and Present Danger, True Lies, Forrest Gump, StarTrek: Generations, and Stargate. All of those being 1994 releases. Hackers was released in theaters fall of 1995, so in my opinion it was in a perfect position to get the AC-3 treatment for Laser Disc. Studios were really picky in those days.
Also, movies are not mixed in Dolby Digital, DTS, or SDDS. The studios contract the digital sound companies to make recordings of the studio masters. In the early days, studios only contracted one and some times two digital sound companies to make recordings, wich was why Hackers, was just a DTS only Movie. In the later years most all 35mm movie prints featured all three digital sound formats- Dolby Digital, DTS, and SDDS.
The DTS cinema format is pretty simple and straightforward. It is a 4:1 waveform compression codec very similar to what radio stations use in their
music servers. The audio is encoded in 16-bit 44.1kHz form with 5.0
channels encoded at a data rate of 820kb/s. The LFE signal is actually
recorded in the surrounds and filtered to the “.1” output via a crossover
filter. Since commercial cinema surround arrays are usually very limited in
low frequency response, this method works okay and makes the audio
compression of the format more efficient.
Didn’t know about this project until a few days ago, so I downloaded the .MKV file and muxed it for playback on bluray and I was very impressed. The grain I read about wasn’t nearly as bad I thought it would be, and only some shots had it the most. Image detail and color were really great. I really missed the original colors. Sound was great. Maybe on future releases you could encode the stereo surround in DTS Master audio.
Anyway, fantastic job TN1!
It’s probably because his style reminds a lot of people of the PT films and the SE, and for those with certain purist tendencies he wasn’t part of the “original poster artists.”
Well, he sort of was, but there’s obviously artists like Tom Jung, Kastel and the Hildebrants that made the most famous OT posters.
Of course Struzan have been making SW posters since 1978, and he made the Revenge of the Jedi poster as well, but his work on the SE and PT posters have become some of the most famous (at least withing the SW franchise).
I guess those who’s old enough to have seen the OT when it was new never really saw his posters at the cinemas, and therefore they just don’t associate his work with the films. His SE and PT poster however was the official artwork and you could’t go anywhere without seeing it.
Struzan didn’t officially pin his signature style until 1984, and although the “D” style poster, or better known as the circus style poster which was done for the 1978 re-release of Star wars is Lucas’s favorite, it was not done by Drew alone. It was a collaborative effort between Drew a two other people. Had drew pinned his signature style earlier, Lucas would have probably had him do the official one sheet for all of the original star wars films. Drew also did a one sheet for Raiders of the Lost Ark, but it was only used in the foreign markets. Lucas hired Richard Amsel to do the U.S. one sheet.
The only poster I ever saw for star wars in 1977 was the one done by Tom Jung, and I remember theaters back then had it displayed a couple of months before it opened in 1977. All of the other versions B-C were commissioned for the foreign and UK markets. It was the same thing for Empire and Jedi except drew did the U.S. teaser for Revenge of the Jedi, but it never made it to theaters and Lucas had all but 6800 destroyed after he changed the name from Revenge to Return of the Jedi, and those 6800 were sold to statwars fan club members in just a couple of days time.
I know this forum has a lot of “militant purists” where nothing outside the original unaltered films (With ROTJ not quite accepted either) will probably ever be accepted unless you guys are given approval over everything from the screenplay, filming techniques, etc. Some are so dogmatic they think their opinion is absolute science to what a “good” SW movie is…They could let you in on the creative process and approval and give you everything you want, truth told, no MATTER what they do…
Are you addressing someone in particular or just criticizing this community as a whole?
Hint: It’s a trick question
He’s criticizing this community as a whole.
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People complained about Struzan’s work in here, some will never be satisfied.
Yeah, I don’t understand that either. I have been a fan of struzans work for decades. I have never seen him put out a bad piece. The D23 poster is fantastic, even though it’s only a promo poster.
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It would be a nice surprise if this turned out to be yet another promotional poster and Struzan did the final one sheet.
That would be nice, but I think what we have is the official one sheet. I bet struzan is not surprised in the least that this happened. Disney had done this to him many times in the past. I bet they used his comps as a reference to make the official photoshop one sheet.
After seeing the trailer I also wondered about who was responsible for the new trailer’s music. The piano notes that played during the first few shots did not feel at all like William’s or Star Wars to me. At first I thought it was tracked music from some other recent score. Good to know that may not even be heard in the film. I’m not resistant to new themes, styles or composers in the stand alone films, as long as it’s not jarring or bland. I just listed to the soundtrack of “Superman Returns” the other day, and that was a great blend of John Williams’s established themes interwoven with a new original score by a different composer. I feel that Superman II-IV all did a good job in that respect. Again, I’m not worried as long as it’s a good composer / arranger working on theses stand alone films.
The trailer music was done by a group of people, and it’s been revealed that Frederick Lloyd and John Samuel Hanson are 2 people from this group.Frederick Lloyd says he has contributed music to the latter half of the trailer, namely the “Force Theme,” while John Samuel Hanson of Confidential Music worked on the first half of the trailer music. It’s still unknown who the others are.
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As an article I was reading today pointed out, Disney is really going after the younger audience with the marketing.
To them, that’s what a Star Wars poster looks like.
Struzan has already confirmed that he has done more stuff, and not just the D23 poster, and he was in line to do the official one sheet. So I’m hoping we get to see some of the other concepts he finished. I guess time will tell.
The new trailer was great. Cant say as much for the new poster though :\
Nice Clip Ady. Not too often you release a clip that 100% complete for the visual FX. The evening cloud vistas looked awesome. Alot better than the original. Watched this on a huge screen. Detail was superb for 720p. I actually prefer stand alone clips rather than the side by side comparisons where the resolution is alot less. Are you still going to modify the ending shot of the rebel fleet?
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The new clip does look great, and now after watching it on a much bigger screen, I haft to agree that the spider is little bit distracting. The focus of the shot is clearly on the X-wing because it's the brightest thing on screen. And having something as big at the spider pulling the attention away is not a good idea. And I don't agree with making the spider darker and covering it up with fog. Whats the point in doing that? IMO, All this shot needs is to be cut into 2 parts. One for the spider and environment alone, and one for the x-wing. This shouldn't be to hard of a fix. I know suggestions are closed so I hope you can understand ady.
From what his Facebook page says, there is not much left to do. So I'd say late summer or sometime this fall. I also suspect that work has already began on ROTJ:R. Maybe we will see a teaser for ROTJ:R on the ESB:R dvd. He had a Teaser for ESB:R on the ANH:R dvd.
Here is a really interesting clip from a recent Papua New Guinea eruption that shows a visible distortion wave. Really cool to see.
No one is wishing for some obscure release for this edit. Ady is most likely going to release this some time next year. However, Ady still has HIC to finish, the wampa suit to complete, the extension set piece for the HOTH hanger, not to mention the Dagobah set piece, and who knows what else he has that he hasn't told us about. Then he has to film and composite. If he can get it all done by next summer then fantastic, but if he cant, then I'm hoping fr a release thats closer to Starwars 7, and if Ady is still working on Empire:Revisited and Disney does release the OUT sometime next year, then there could be a Gem or 2 that Ady could use on the edit.
There might have already been a deal worked out between Disney and Fox. Filmdivider.com found an Italian ad ( no longer working ) where Disney Plans to reissue all six Starwars films through a Disney digital release soon. Now this doesn't necessarily mean a release of the OUT, it just means Disney plans to release the movies via Disney Digital services. The Italian add used clips from A New Hope.
And then there is the question of Reliance Media and the rumor of the new 4k transfer of the Original Trilogy, of which their Demo real showed clips of a pre special edition A New Hope in HD.
I kinda hope he delays it until late next year because if the unaltered Original Trilogy is indeed released next year, on Blu-ray as rumors suggest, then Ady could use elements from that release. But if he decides to release May of next year, then I still have no objections.
I'm extremely happy for Ady that his passion project had lead to a paid job.
This means that what new skills and tricks he learns from this paying Job, can be applied to Revisited to make it even better.
I wish Gary Kurtz himself would comment directly on Ady's facebook page. After all he was the producer of Empire Strikes Back. Seeing that instead of Peter Briggs quote Kurts would have been even better to see IMO.
Anyway, just knowing Kurtz has seen clips of ESB:R is still pretty awesome.
Trailers for ESB:R have been available for quite some time now.
I had no problem downloading from firefox. Took me about 3 min.
Anyway, the new canyon shot looked great Ady. I also liked the dirt that the tie fighters lazers blasted up. I didn't care to much for camera shake when the star destroyers scraped against each other. It just didn't feel natural in my opinion.
Everything else looked great. Amazing job Ady!