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More Rachel, less Brendan please.
More actual pictures, less broken hotlinking please.
They were actual pictures at one point.
Yes there were, very nice ones too.
More Rachel, less Brendan please.
More actual pictures, less broken hotlinking please.
They were actual pictures at one point.
I guess he should have used Trump’s Time Machine before posting them.
For someone who professes to hate Trump so much, you sure do act like him almost all the time.
Petty and vindictive, grudges from thread to thread, all in 140 chars or less!
The SEs aren’t just a different version. They are inferior in many fundamental storytelling and filmmaking aspects, which have been discussed on this forum at length.
I wouldn’t be surprised, even if the OOT recieves the proper treatment someday, to see the non-final versions eventually fade into memory. Lucasfilm only wants there to be one official version of the saga, and historical curiosity has the potential to get in the way.
Not going to happen. The difference in quality between the two versions is stark. When the originals enter the public domain, the SEs will quickly be forgotten.
Accurate terminology is important–for example, calling everyone under the LGBTQIA umbrella “gay” would be pretty dismissive/marginalizing to those who aren’t gay.
I disagree. Language is fluid and words mean what society wants them to mean. If a society wants to change a word’s meaning, then it changes. There can be an “umbrella” word to encompass the whole umbrella without having to explicitly enumerate each individual sect within it. Other minority groups in society don’t have to do this. I mean, what if the Native American tribes wanted to be known under the umbrella of combining the first letter of every tribe? The term “Native American” does not inherently marginalize the Cherokee or the Osage tribes.
I’m sorry, but I really feel that to be offended or feel marginalized simply because a community’s acronym doesn’t explicitly include one’s flavor of eccentricity–that, to me really is indicative of one who is highly-oversensitive.
Do you still use dated words for people of color? Those 19th century terms might not be acceptable in today’s society.
But, there is a practical limit to all of this. If I came across someone who is black, and I referred to them as black, and they got offended because they are lighter skinned, and I referred to them as mixed, and they got offended, and I asked them politely how would they like to be called? And they said, please call me black, but not black all the way, because I’m mixed, with 10% white and 20% latino and 60% African American, and 10% is debatable…well I’m not going to accommodate them, sorry.
LBGT-Q is the farthest I will go. Love all you people though, but I have to draw the line somewhere.
God bless you guys. Kathleen’s kids. Has a nice ring to it, don’t you think?
Don’t tire yourself out carrying all that corporate water, now.
Guys, just give Kathleen Kennedy a break. First of all, she’s really rich. It’s a tough life. Second, it’s not like she’s stopping you from buying that official BluRay copy of the OOT you’ve always wanted, right? Well, um…er…anyway, how about that nostalgia! Am I right? She gets to go gravedigging and bring back all your favorite Star Wars characters back to life. And you know what really matters? She’s good at her job. She hires the wrong people, but she fires them too. She’s like the first team all fire the director. We’re lucky to live in her time.
More Rachel, less Brendan please.
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The question is why she hired them in the first place.A fair question. An article I read said it was Kasdan who chose Lord and Miller and then made a big push for them with Lucasfilm/Disney.
I’m not sure why he or KK thought they would be a good fit, especially since Kennedy stated last year that the movie would have more of a “western” feel. A comedy duo doesn’t seem like the most obvious choice, although I haven’t seen all of their work.
I will defer to your opinion on this matter CobraKai.
I have not seen many of their movies either, but I did not like what I saw. But hey, they are directors and I’ll stick up for their rights as directors, to a point of course.
Actually that one wasn’t that bad, I like to exaggerate a little.
How many Mummies have they made now?
The Brendan Frasier movie was dumb dumb dumb but my God, Rachel Weisz sure was lovely in it.
She should start acting like a producer IMO.
I’m sure the co-founder of Amblin Entertainment and producer on the Indiana Jones trilogy, Back to the Future, E.T., Jurassic Park, Schindler’s List, etc. really values your opinion.
Who gives a **** what she thinks. She’s had a hand in making as many good Star Wars movies as I have. Except I’m not telling everyone here to **** off and live with the Special Editions. And I’m not hiring screwball directors and then firing them when they make a screwball movie.
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I was just going off what other people said here and what was in that article.
I have no doubt that what Kennedy and Kasdan were seeing was terrible.
The question is why she hired them in the first place.
When I read the articles today the much more worrying thing about this movie were the things the co-directors (??) said. These guys sound like total bozos.
And wtf would anyone want to watch a Han-Solo learning-from-his-mentor (?!?!?!) movie?
I posted that months ago or last year, whenever it was they brought Woody on board.
The directors had a chance to talk about their movie and talk about Woody’s role, and instead they started talking about how good he was at ping pong. They are just screwballs, which is ok I guess that’s their thing and some people like that. But my point is you know what you are getting with them, so if you don’t want that, why hire them?
Why would Kathleen Kennedy have any say whatsoever on camera setups anyway.
She should start acting like a producer IMO.
You do realize she is also the president of LFL, correct?
I’m sorry, but when is it a good idea for the president of the company, to be deciding how many cameras should be used and where they should be placed?
Where can we sign up and direct Ms. Kennedy’s movies for her?
Why would Kathleen Kennedy have any say whatsoever on camera setups anyway.
She should start acting like a producer IMO.
Actually this sounds like one of the worst train wrecks ever put together.
Best thing that could happen for SW would be for this movie to bomb spectacularly.
21 Jump Street was a terrible, terrible movie. One of the worst I’ve ever seen.
What do you like?
Good movies.
21 Jump Street was a terrible, terrible movie. One of the worst I’ve ever seen.
Going from that to Ron Howard is quite a reversal. But Ron is a fantastic director. I haven’t seen all of his films, but that ones I have I have loved. The film is in good hands.
But what’s he done recently?
He did Inferno with Tom Hanks last year. (Another adaptation of a book by that Da Vinci Code guy.) It didn’t light the box office on fire though.
I see what you did there.
LOL! I didn’t even realize I’d done that.
But your brain did.
Ron Howard is a lock to reshoot at least 51% of the movie.
There is no way Disney is going to release HAN SOLO: THE STORY YOU ALREADY KNOW directed by Alan Smithee.
Deadline claims that Ron Howard is the new director:
http://deadline.com/2017/06/ron-howard-star-wars-han-solo-director-1202118193/
It’s been confirmed by starwars.com.
“Lucasfilm is pleased to announce that Academy Award-winning filmmaker Ron Howard has been named director of the untitled Han Solo film.”
i am surprised they haven’t named this thing yet. maybe that is the REAL reason for the firings :p
It doesn’t sound like they have any particular idea what they are doing. Kennedy probably just ordered people to make a Han Solo movie and make it Han-Solo-y. I guess it wasn’t Han-Solo-y enough so now Ron Howard can give it a try.
Kathleen Kennedy has been involved with two very well reviewed and financially successful Star Wars movies, and she was a big part of why they were successful. She recognizes what it takes to make a great movie because she has been involved with many great directors on many great movies.
She hasn’t been involved with any good Star Wars movies. She has been involved with financially successful Star Wars movies, sure. But that’s not relevant to anyone unless you are a Disney shareholder or somehow made money off the movie yourself. If we’re just talking about the quality of the movies and what they will mean to people in a few years time, they are junk.
It’s a business. Movies need to make money.
That’s true, and I agree with you. They do need to make money. But being qualitatively good and being financially successful are not mutually exclusive things in the movie business.
This wasn’t just their movie. Lawrence Kasdan wrote it and he and Kathleen Kennedy had a specific idea of what they wanted. Rian Johnson wrote and directed VIII. That is his movie.
As I said, I agree with Kathleen Kennedy and Lawrence Kasdan. These directors were not a good fit for this movie. But that could have and should have been figured out a long time ago. The studio should fire a director who is arrested and charged by police or comes out as a racist or does something else crazy that would bring tremendously negative PR to the studio and tarnish its image. The studio has an obligation to step in and fire a director if that person starts showing up to work drunk all the time, or is believed to have sexually harassed the cast or crew, or is using drugs on the set. If the studio is getting the dailies and determines the quality of the work is unprofessional, or not in line with what was previously agreed to in pre-production, then sure, the director may need to be replaced.
But I think it’s extraordinarily out of line to hijack the movie from the boardroom and then part ways in the middle of production over “creative differences”. The film is the directors’ film. The studio invests in the vision financially. They decide who to hire. But once the hiring is done, the movie is the director’s vision. That’s what they are hired to do. Certain parameters may be agreed to ahead of time, and certainly there are directors who go into a project knowing they have very little creative control, but that doesn’t seem to be the case here or these guys never would have quit, I’m guessing.
So even though I do agree with Kathleen Kennedy’s take on this, that these two were not right for this project, why didn’t she figure that out a long time ago? Why hire them in the first place? I find it disturbing the way it all went down.
The point is Kathleen Kennedy has worked on more movie productions as well as having greater success. Perhaps she knows something about movies after all of her experience.
Ah but that wasn’t the point I paraphrased in my post. The article was saying Kathleen Kennedy believes she knows how to “bake the Star Wars cake”. She has never been a part of a good Star Wars movie, and there have been several production screw-ups in the last couple years.
If your point is “she’s successful because her films make the most money” then would you say Michael Bay is also good at what he does? And further, what does it matter to you or I how much money the film makes? In a few years, the film isn’t going to be any more enjoyable or less enjoyable to watch at home because it made $100 million or $500 million at the box office. So what was your point? If you are a Disney shareholder or personally invested money in those films, congrats I guess.
For the record, I agree with Kathleen Kennedy’s decision to part ways with these guys. They were seemingly a very poor fit for a Star Wars movie.
But I also take the side of the directors, that once they were hired, there shouldn’t have been undue micromanagement of THEIR film. It’s a collaborative process, other people, the studio, cast, crew, they are all going to have input and the director(s) need to be able to work with all of these people in a collaborative way, but at some point their vision may become compromised and it’s no longer their film anymore. It sounds like that’s what happened. If Kasdan and Kennedy want to direct the film from the studio, why not just direct it themselves?
All of this could have and should have been solved a long time ago, well before principal photography, in my opinion.
Do you honestly think Kathleen Kennedy knows less about making movies than the guys who made 21 Jumpstreet and Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs?
There is this pretty famous quote about the blind leading the blind and all…
The funniest thing I’ve read on this is where Kathleen Kennedy claims she knows how to bake the Star Wars cake, she just knows how these things are done.
No, no you don’t lady. You haven’t been around for a single good Star Wars movie. Ever.