Spectre8750 said:
I'm in, Thanks
Glad you enjoyed them. And I received your PM about you releasing a (further) cleaned up version of these. Would prefer if you didn't please. No worries if you want to do your own transfer from scratch though.
Cheers,
7FN.
From my first post:
"Thanks to the kindness of one of the posters on here, this should magically appear on a 'Spleen near you at some point in the very near future. PMs asking for the files will be ignored. Polite request: Please don't share these elsewhere... Thank you."
;)
Look forward to seeing this new site - loved the original one! Star Wars'd out these days, but this is the one project I still have great interest in, and am looking forward to.
Glad you liked them, and I appreciate you both taking time to comment :)
Still onnthe lookout for a decent copy of the Jedi here in the U.K. Will post if/when anything happens on that front.
Happy listening!
7
bilditup1 said:
7FN said:
bilditup1 said:
7FN said:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soundtrack-Return-of-The-Jedi-vinyl-LP-1983-RSO-Records-SEALED-/380464231784?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item58956f7568#ht_1029wt_689
If anybody is feeling flush enough to buy this and send it over, I'd transfer it to high-res like the others, and give the owner a couple DVDs (and send the LP back, of course!) containing all the existing transfers by way of thanks.
7FN.
Dude I'm not done listening to even the first disc of your release yet, but I am on board. If I could have the seller send it directly to wherever you are I'll do it, too. I'd wanna have it back at the end of the process though
-e
Thanks for the offer mate - very much appreciated. However thinking about it even a sealed new LP is no guarantee of a good pressing, and for that price it would be a gamble. You couldn't really send it back again if there was a fault, especially after sending it out to me first. Even more of a gamble would be sending it over to the UK, and from the UK back again to yourself, without it getting bent/damaged en route. If you'd be willing to risk all that, then cool. If not, I'm still keeping an eye out for a mint pressing here in the UK. They turn up fairly often so it shouldn't take too long.
Hmm, well how are you supposed to know whether it is a good pressing before you buy it regardless? At least if it's new you know that nobody has futzed with it before, right? So lemme know if you change your mind. The obstacle here might be getting them to send it to you, if the guy requires PayPal confirmed. As you say, two transatlantic trips before you even receive it is worse than none, and more expensive to boot. It wouldn't take so long as I'm on the Atlantic seaboard but would still of course add to the time and cost. But sellers all have diff policies, so I'll see if I could talk them into it - they tend to listen to you more when you have perfect feedback - in the event you decide to go through with it.
Re feedback (the other kind) and common courtesy - I feel your pain, and do hope you change your mind on that front, too. Unfortunately this kinda thing is often thankless :(
That's just it - you wouldn't know until it had been played. So it could be awsome, or it might have a few clicks/pops/warps. I doubt after it had been sent to me, then back that you'd be able to get a refund from the seller if it did turn out to be bad. I'd hate for you to be $40 down if that was the case, but really appreciate your offer.
As I said over at MySpleen, pretty much Star Wars'd out for now. If I see a mint copy of Jedi here in the UK, I'll definitely buy it, and transfer it. It's in my Ebay alert list. But no promises. If it happens I'll be sure to PM those that have been good enough to comment here, and will privately send out copies to you. I won't have this one put up on any torrent sites this time. I'm not happy with the whole legal angle, even though these are truly meant to be historical preservations of the long out of print LPs for those that already own them, not to mention my own homage to Mr Williams and his incredible music.
Really appreciate those who have taken the time to comment here, and I'm very happy they are being enjoyed. And thanks again to Antcufaalb for taking the time and trouble to share these captures.
As I said, if I get around to Jedi, will PM those who have posted...
Out of here for a while - there's a whole world out there ;)
7FN
bilditup1 said:
7FN said:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soundtrack-Return-of-The-Jedi-vinyl-LP-1983-RSO-Records-SEALED-/380464231784?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item58956f7568#ht_1029wt_689
If anybody is feeling flush enough to buy this and send it over, I'd transfer it to high-res like the others, and give the owner a couple DVDs (and send the LP back, of course!) containing all the existing transfers by way of thanks.
7FN.
Dude I'm not done listening to even the first disc of your release yet, but I am on board. If I could have the seller send it directly to wherever you are I'll do it, too. I'd wanna have it back at the end of the process though
-e
Thanks for the offer mate - very much appreciated. However thinking about it even a sealed new LP is no guarantee of a good pressing, and for that price it would be a gamble. You couldn't really send it back again if there was a fault, especially after sending it out to me first. Even more of a gamble would be sending it over to the UK, and from the UK back again to yourself, without it getting bent/damaged en route. If you'd be willing to risk all that, then cool. If not, I'm still keeping an eye out for a mint pressing here in the UK. They turn up fairly often so it shouldn't take too long.
Thanks guys - really good to know you're pleased with the transfers, makes it all worthwhile :)
And yes thanks again to AntcuFaalb for uploading - much appreciated!
Now, if only I could afford this (or some kind soul on here could!) I could get the soundtrack LP Trilogy finished in style:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soundtrack-Return-of-The-Jedi-vinyl-LP-1983-RSO-Records-SEALED-/380464231784?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item58956f7568#ht_1029wt_689
If anybody is feeling flush enough to buy this and send it over, I'd transfer it to high-res like the others, and give the owner a couple DVDs (and send the LP back, of course!) containing all the existing transfers by way of thanks.
7FN.
bilditup1 said:
7FN said:
P.S. have occasionally seen my old 2008 versions floating around in netsville - how people can still call a transfer 'high res' when it's been turned into an MP3 and is the 16-bit version is beyond me.
So I have uploaded these as part of ABC's old Soundtracks Salvage set to the spleen, but they are FLACs, and don't sound bad at all, even if they aren't 24-bit, of which there are many skeptics, including this guy.
Those files were from my 2008 version 1 transfers. Different turntable setup, LPs, not professionally cleaned etc etc. Leaving the issue of high-res vs. standard-res audio to one side, the version 2s are wayyyy better in every respect. I'd delete the version 1s...
And as I said - and without wishing to appear like some audio-snob - you need a decent Hi-Fi seperates system to appreciate high-res files. I'm a very firm believer in the less digital processing you do to a file, the better. Converting from 24/96 to 16/44.1 is yet more processing/changing of the original signal... If you want the 'purist' version of my LP transfers, 24/96 is it. Though the Izotope SRC did do a very good job of converting these to 16 bit files, I must say.
Interesting article, but many points I don't agree on. There are far more convincing articles for high-res out there too.
Still it's a moot point; both 24 and 16 bit versions are in this new set. Choose your poison, and enjoy ;)
P.S. have occasionally seen my old 2008 versions floating around in netsville - how people can still call a transfer 'high res' when it's been turned into an MP3 and is the 16-bit version is beyond me.
ONLY the 24/96 files are high-res audio folks - 16/44.1 is bog-standard CD audio too, and MP3 below that, of course.
If listening to high-res I recommend reading up about it first to ensure your PC or Mac is setup properly (it can get complicated!). For Mac I recommend either Audirvana Free, or the 'bitperfect' iTunes add-on from iTunes store. For PC Foobar2000 setup properly for high-res (tons of guides out there).
You can also Google for guides on how to burn high-res audio files onto a DVD so you can play the 24/96 files on a standard dvd player! i.e.:
http://www.audio-dvd-creator.com/
You will NOT hear the benefits of high-res on simple computer speakers, or average quality built-in soundcards. You need proper, decent Hi-Fi seperates. Failing that just download the 16-bit versions.
;)
Edit: duplicate post
msycamore said:
Don't understand how I could've missed this thread. This is awesome! loved your previous effort, thanks for sharing 7FN! :)
Really hope you like how they sound, but bare in mind they are from LPs so you will still get the occasional anomaly here and there. I'm very pleased with how they turned out though, and look forward to hearing what people think, once the discussions on semantics is finished ;)
Really wish they'd release the definitive Star Wars soundtrack collection in normal and high-res versions (like The Lord of the Rings Complete Editions) mixed by the exceptional team that did The Anthology. That would be a dream come true :)
timdiggerm said:
I don't really understand what your definition of "legit" is, but okay?
It means I'd rather not see these files seeded all over the net, and only at the locations I have already mentioned. Seems pretty clear to me...
AntcuFaalb said:
OK, they're on Usenet (a.b.starwars) and MySpleen. Enjoy!
Streuth that was quick! You must have a lean, mean fighting machine of an internet connection!
Thanks again for uploading - much appreciated!
Folks: I'd appreciate it if these files were kept at a.b.starwars and MySpleen and not shared elsewhere. If you see them elsewhere you know they're not legit. Ta ;)
Great stuff!
Hope they're enjoyed, and many thanks for uploading :)
Damn sorry to hear that - it's been two weeks now. Sent them via Airmail too :/
Off on holiday for a week tomorrow. If you haven't received them in another week I'll get a new set of discs off to you then.
Having yet another bad health/energy day today, but just wanted to say that clip bought a smile to my face - great stuff!
:)
captainsolo said:
I'd guess you would start with the mono elements found in the 97 SE 5.1 mix. That way you could get clean versions of "Close the blast doors!", Leia's .44, the tractor beam line etc.
Don't forget the Story of Star Wars LP - some clean elements on that as well, inc. the blast doors line.
Outstanding! They look great - nice to see those shots looking like film again, and not the initially impressive, but tiring on the eyes after a while, artificially sharpened mess that is the official release.
Just watched this on an 1080p Epson projector on a 110" screen. What can I say?!?? Absolutely stunning! It's remarkable the difference to a film that colour timing can make. Finally this looks like a film made in 1977, the film I fell in love with in a cinema in 1980! Had so many goosebump moments it'd be futile to list them here! Really couldn't see the joins/seems where old footage was reinserted - was way too busy being swept up in a galaxy far, far away to care! That in itself should indicate what a superlative job Harmy has done here! I can now completely enjoy & be immersed in this film once again, without mentally tensing for the next change, whether to the soundtrack, the additions, the colouring etc etc etc. The film felt organic again, and of its era. LOVED the colour-timing. The film grain. Spot on. Still the occasional black crush but that's the bluray source for you. It still looks utterly fantastic. I just want to fire up the projector and watch it right through again frankly. Even my folks who rarely notice such things commented on how 'film-like' & 'punchy' it looked! I've made them sit through this way too many times over the decades, but this time around they were saying they could see things never seen before, and it felt like watching the film again for the very first time. I utterly agree!
THANKS Harmy - you've done a wonderful thing by bringing this film back the way it was, back in 1977. I'm sure this release will go down (officially or unofficially) in Star Wars history - along with the year 2012 - as being of great importance, along with -1s impending 35mm release too.
What a year to be an OT Star Wars fan! Life is good ;)
7FN.
schorman13 said:
7FN,
No, 16bit 44.1kHz files are not blu ray compliant. They have to be upsampled to 48kHz, just like DVD. However, 44.1kHz should work fine when muxed to an mkv file.
That's great - thanks for clearing that up for me. Prefer to keep things bit-perfect and unchanged where possible. I'll keep this as it is and mux into an mkv as/when available then.
Ta ;)
Huzzah-cubed! Looking forward to this so much!
Harmy said:
@7FN: If they are the original files, you need to set a delay of 1017ms.
Hmmm I added that delay and it was way out of sink. Remuxed without it and all went fine :)
Screening tomorrow evening on a 110" screen and Belbecus' full-res mono which I just muxed in woohooo! It'll be like 1977 all over again... Now if only I could de-age 35 years too ;)
Thanks again Harmy!
7FN
schorman13 said:
Yes, but again I cannot do it before mid August.
Really looking forward to this file so I can mux it into Harmy's V2 of Star Wars - I'll be in 1977 heaven then ;)
Just as an aside, can one mux the 16 bit 44.1kHz files into a bluray audio stream, or does one need to upsample it to 16 bit 48kHz first like DVD?
Cheers.
Harmy said:
@7FN: If they are the original files, you need to set a delay of 1017ms.
They're directly from the lossless links he posted back when they were first released, so yes assume they're original. I'll try with the delay you mention and keep 'em crossed ;)
Thanks for your help!