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i’m new here. after searching high and low, I finally got hold of a TR47 set of DVD’s (awesome job, BTW, TR47). Am incredibly pleased that there’s this community trying to do this. I work in high end video, have access to a lot of specialized gear, don’t know if there’s anything I can do to help, but am offering whatever I can. Would love nothing more than to support the creation of the ultimate, as-pritine-as-could-be, version of SW. Or at least I can cheer everyone on.

I puked when my roomate brought home the not-so-special-special DVD set.

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With that kind of attitude, I'm sure that you'll soon become a respected member of this community.

Welcome to the boards.
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What we really need is access to an S9 or similar laserdisc player to be able to get a decent transfer for the source footage. If anyone has access to a High end Pioneer player, please let us all know!
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seconded. if someone was able to capture either PAL or NTSC trilogy from the Faces set to huffyuv codec in RGB form and then we all sent them a big hard drive to copy it to, to give us a common good base capture to work from I'd be over the moon.

with high end gear they'd only have to capture once through and the cost of mailing a drive both ways isn't that much. I would say that is probably the biggest service someone could do me. :-D the more I look at my set, the more I see little glitches introduced by the IVTC process and it's annoying me that I could have missed them.

on a more practical level Charliex, pointers to any known good online tutorials for AE regarding Travelling matte's, compositing etc, or making yourself available to answer complex member questions about that sort of stuff would be brilliant. I for one am certainly in the process of hacking up the DVD and reverting it to a non-SE state, including color correction etc so I am bound to have questions regarding AE, premier etc. any help you could give on that front would be amazing.
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unfotunately the only laserdisc player we have is a Sony... an MD-455... and from what I understand, Sony had a history of poor electronics in their LaserDisc. It does have S-video and optical audio out.... honestly I've never fired it up, as there's never been a need. And without a Pioneer of any repute to compare it against, I'd have no idea what I was looking at in terms of video reproduction.
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I have a CLD 97 which is being used for my new set. It is the best player that was sold in the US next to the CLD 99, but the 97 is actually better for LD transfers as it has a lower signal to noise ratio. The only better players that exist are the Japanese high end models, but they are nearly impossible to find and extremely expensive even if you do.
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someone i work with freelances at fox sports in l.a. about 8 months ago he saw a dbeta of the SE floating around. if only, if only... of course that's getting to some serious legal considerations at that point. wouldn't want to incur the wrath of a lucasfilm lawsuit. or get someone fired.



TR47, what are you using to digitize? what codec?
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The difference is minimal at best, and as I paid almost $800 for the 97, I can't even imagine what one of those would set you back, even if you could find one.
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TR47, what are you using to digitize? what codec?


If you mean what encoder, the set is being created with CCE.
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tr47, what is you new set being dubbed? and can we expect an "official" thread?

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When I have the finished product, it will go into the thread above with my username on it. There's no real need to make a new thread as this is basically just an upgrade. I don't yet know what it will be known as...
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Ahh, I had a 97 once, nice unit. Bugger all difference between it and the Runcos, wish mine still worked!

What are you capturing it into? I can send you some digital betacam tapes
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tech question. I've been doing my research on LaserDisc, I really know very little about them... How would one relate the picture information in terms of compression? I'm really just a digital boy... I.E. How does laserdisc compare to an analog tape format like BetaSp, 3/4", 1", etc?
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It is an uncompressed analog signal.

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capturing laserdisc is just the same as capturing analogue video or TV. it's an interlaced analogue video signal so quality is variable dependng on the player outputting the signal, cables used, quality of capture device etc.
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It tends to be a bit below BETA SP in quality, mainly because of its composite nature. The video image was 'downmixed' to composite before recording onto the disc. This gives all the tradtional problems that composite video brings. If it was kept in YUV before recording, it would have been a cleaner format, but as it is, it is still the best of the analogue formats available to the home consumer. So if you fed a betacam SP deck a composite signal, the quality of it vs LD would be pretty close.
So its much better than betamax or VHS, but nowhere near as good as DVD.
Also, the SN ratio on a lot of players (especially Sony) was poor, so the player makes a HUGE difference to the quality of the image you get from a laserdisc.

Now of course you can find laserdiscs that look great and DVDs that look crappy, but the best laserdisc transfer doesn't look as good as the best DVD transfers by quite a margin. Also, the transfers were often of a lower quality than they are today due partly to consumers not being picky enough (i.e. When comparing to VHS, even an average LD transfer looked good), and partly due to the telecine technology advances in recent years. You could probably prooduce a much better laserdisc today than in the 90s.

Often Laserdiscs have a better 5.1 surround track than the DVD release of the same movie. This isn't anything to do with the laserdisc format itself, but more that many DVDs have a compromised 5.1 soundtrack - they remixed it so it would still sound good when played in mono or stereo. The LD 5.1 soundtracks were only intended for 5.1 so sometimes you get a much bettr S/T on the laserdisc version of the movie (HEAT is a good example, the sound is outrageously better on the LD) But when the 5.1 mix is the same on the LD and the DVD, they sound identical.
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thanks laserman, that's what I was after....