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Payback (1999)

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I'd love to get a copy of this director's cut, if someone has it. Here's what the IMDB says:

Director Brian Helgeland's cut was significantly changed by producer/star Mel Gibson before release and was 15 minutes shorter than the final version. Here are some of the differences to Gibson's highly publicized reshoot version of the film that was released into the theaters.

* The opening shot of Porter in the doctor's office is not in Helgeland's cut. The film begins with Porter on the bridge returning to the city. Brian's cut doesn't suggest the double-cross until we see the flashback.
* A more harsh exchange when Porter visits Rosie (Maria Bello) for the first time.
* Odds and ends with Val Resnick (Gregg Henry) throughout the film. Includes a curbside threat to the David Paymer character and a funny scene calling Pearl (Lucy Liu) on the phone.
* In Helgeland's version, Porter does not merely appear in Resnick's hotel room in the mob hotel. He sets fire to a garbage truck to distract the hoods out of the hotel lobby, then has a nasty encounter with another hood in the hotel elevator, eventually leaving the hood unconscious with the elevator doors banging open and closed on his head. Gibson describes this scene in an interview in Premiere Magazine: "I get on an elevator with some guy," Gibson says with relish, "the guy notices I'm not supposed to be on the elevator and the next time the doors open you see that I've ripped the guy's eye out. Then I see him later as he's going into some office, and I say, 'Oh, it's you again, Cyclops' and I poke the guy's other eye out."
* A small exchange between Porter and the Asian gang.
* When Val breaks in and beats up Rosie, Porter the dog gets shots in the head and remains dead. In Mel's cut, the dog lives.
* The two versions of the film begin to change greatly when Porter confronts Fairfax (James Coburn). The dialog is different and the outcome of the scene is changed.
* The Kris Kristofferson character of Mel's cut replaced a female "Outfit" boss voiced by Angie Dickinson. She's never seen in the film. When Porter begins to kill her associates, the boss almost immediately gives in to Porter's demands. In Mel's cut, the boss was a bigger character and provided a bigger climax. All the boss's son and torture scenes are not in Brian's cut of the movie.
* The climax of the film takes place on a mass transit platform. Porter arranges to pick up his cut of the money, but the boss dispatches hitmen to stop him. He gets the money, but is shot in the chest. Stumbling out of the station, he drops the bag and a homeless man picks it up. Porter refuses to put up a fight and begins to die. Rosie finds him and slaps him back to life. Porter suggests a doctor he knows can patch him up. The final shot is of the two driving out of town.
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I love this movie...i would love to see a copy of this workprint anyone have a copy?

Some of the differences i think id like, but others not to sure about...probably cause it changes the story as im used to it and first saw it. What would be real interesting is a combined version of the two films, basically using the workprint footage to make an extended cut of the released version. I wonder if any of these scenes are available on the dvd as cut scenes...ill need to check that out when i get home. It seems like parts may be able to be restored from the dvd (mainly the cuts) but im sure that most, if not all, of the extended/different scenes wouldnt be accessible without the workprint.

-Darth Simon
Why Anakin really turned to the dark side:
"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

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i have this on a bootleg tape - it's awesome (minus the tape degradation)

i'll have to dig up what else i have on tape.

i don't have the ability to transfer this to dvd - so someone wanting to take that responsibility would be great.
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Originally posted by: joebshmoe
i have this on a bootleg tape - it's awesome (minus the tape degradation)

i'll have to dig up what else i have on tape.

i don't have the ability to transfer this to dvd - so someone wanting to take that responsibility would be great.


That would be awsome...at minimum id love a copy of the tape. if someone can transfer it to dvd that would be even better (I dont have a stand alone vcr to hook up to my capture card)

-Darth Simon
Why Anakin really turned to the dark side:
"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

0100111001101001011011100110101001100001

*touchy people disclaimer*
some or all of the above comments are partially exaggerated to convey a point, none of the comments are meant as personal attacks on anyone mentioned or reference in the above post
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Hello,

I have the workprint version of Payback on DVD. Drop me a line and I will hook you up.
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darthmaul180, can you either turn on you're pm's or send me an email (in my profile). Consider this my dropping you a line for the hook up (wow, that is so full of bad puns, sorry about that one)

-Darth Simon
Why Anakin really turned to the dark side:
"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

0100111001101001011011100110101001100001

*touchy people disclaimer*
some or all of the above comments are partially exaggerated to convey a point, none of the comments are meant as personal attacks on anyone mentioned or reference in the above post
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If anyone could get me a copy then I'll gladly send it on to some UK folks that want it.
http://timeonmyside.blogspot.com/
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Does anyone have the workprint version of Payback (Mel Gibson) on VHS or DVD ? I will trade 3 blank DVD-R's for it ! This must be the version that differs from the release version that gibson changed drastically.

Thanks for your time


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Originally posted by: DrVenkman
If anyone could get me a copy then I'll gladly send it on to some UK folks that want it.



oohh me ! me!


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[quote=Cassius76]oohh me ! me![/quote]

Hold your horses there son, I've still not got a copy of it yet. But here's another request for it.

If anyone has this on DVD then drop it my way and I can get it to some folks in the UK.
http://timeonmyside.blogspot.com/
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Here's a chart that shows more of the differences and copares PARKER/PAYBACK to POINT BLACK and THE HUNTER

http://www.impossiblefunky.com/archives/issue_11/parkerchart.pdf


And an article about the films.
http://www.impossiblefunky.com/archives/issue_11/11_parker.asp?IshNum=11

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i think rikter has the Payback Workprint on DVD...

i have the VHS bootleg and have been meaning to hound him about getting it

perhaps a torrent would suffice?
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I have the workprint as well, but the dvd coming out in april should be almost the same thing but in full quality. The review Harry Knowles did on AICN of Payback: Straight Up explained it to be almost exactly like the workprint.
I'm always looking to trade my edits, if you don't want to get them from a torrent. PM or e-mail!
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If I can get a copy of the work print, then I am hoping to do a fan edit combining all 3 versions and then changing around the music into a 70's feel and make the picture grainy so it has a an old grindhouse feel to it.
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hey, i can transfer a vhs to dvd. if anyone still wants a copy, then someone send me the tape or something and i could do it for us all easily :)

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