Windows 7

ferris209 said:

All that aside, I am pretty stoked about it, it looks like all the kinks are, or will be, worked out from their flawed Vista release (although it ain't that bad to me).

What kinks would those be?  Pretty much all the things that were wrong with Vista have been fixed with SP1.  I certainly hope you're running SP1.  SP2 will probably be out in the next month or so.

I've had no trouble running Vista in my test environment at work.  Not a single crash or hang.

Hmm, advanced GPU coding enhancements for games? It won't come out until 2010? Not worth waiting. I need a new computer now and I've been saving for over a year. I would like to see service pack 2 before I get Vista, though.

Wow, feels like Vista just came out, kind of crazy we are already talking the next version. Hopefully it works halfway decent, Vista left a bad taste in a of people's mouths.

They're leaving the basic architecture the same as Vista, but I think they're going to target the issues a lot of people had with it.

Darth Chaltab said:

They're leaving the basic architecture the same as Vista, but I think they're going to target the issues a lot of people had with it.

Which is why this release is bullshit. Instead of a new $300 OS this should of been SP2 or SP3...regardless it's a complete bend over and take it in the ass moment from Uncle Bill again.....no thanks.

well, you do think microsoft just sits around waiting for something

to happen with their OS'es, before working on another one?

you don't have to buy it, so stick with VISTA if it works for you..

do you think there's never going to be another version? VISTA has

been out for 2 years, and they want to change it, so let them...

you can always get an upgrade..

do you even think you'll have the same computer 2 years from now?

so you'll probably end up getting windows 7 with a new computer anyway..

it's a non-issue: these

are the versions i've bought

==================

windows 1.0-> 2.0

windows 2.0 -> 3.0

windows 3.0 -> 3.1

(yes, there was windows 286/386, but i didn't

get those when they came out)..

windows 3.1 -> 95

windows 95 -> ME ->98

windows 98 -> NT

windows NT -> 2000

2000 -> XP

XP -> Vista

vista -> windows 7

 (yes, there are different versions of XP/VISTA,

and the server versions , i have left them out)..;

so what else is new?

or have you not been paying attention?

later

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ferris209 said:

vbangle said:

Darth Chaltab said:

They're leaving the basic architecture the same as Vista, but I think they're going to target the issues a lot of people had with it.

 

Which is why this release is *******. Instead of a new $300 OS this should of been SP2 or SP3...regardless it's a complete bend over and take it in the **** moment from Uncle Bill again.....no thanks.

 

That's my main point, I didn't see anything wrong with making all these improvements to Vista as SP3, even if they wanted to get away from the whole tainted "Vista" name they could have easily had SP3 re-title Vista to Windows 7 and even make the whole SP3 a big marketing campaign, but it all comes down to the almighty dollar.

 so, you don't think apple charges for every single 0.1 upgrade to 0sx???

and you think that since service packs are free, that this major upgrade should be free???

how is that supposed to work??????

there's no way this could even remotely be considered a service pack..

don't you think in 2 years or so (when it really gets finished), that all the

work they do on it, will include major revisions, and fixes?????

how you think this can be a service pack is beyond me..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7

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Windows 7 includes a number of new features, such as advancements in touch, speech, and handwriting recognition, support for virtual hard disks, improved performance on multi-core processors, improved boot performance, and kernel improvements.

According to reports sent to TG Daily, the Milestone 1 build of Windows 7 adds support for systems using multiple heterogeneous graphics cards from different vendors and a new version of Windows Media Center. New features in Milestone 1 also reportedly include Gadgets being integrated into Windows Explorer, a Gadget for Windows Media Center, the ability to visually pin and unpin items from the Start Menu and Recycle Bin, improved media features, the XPS Essentials Pack being integrated, and a multiline Calculator featuring Programmer and Statistics modes along with unit conversion.

Reports indicate that a feedback tool included in Milestone 1 lists some coming features: the ability to store Internet Explorer settings on a Windows Live account, updated versions of Paint and WordPad, and a 10-minute install process.In addition, improved network connection tools might be included.

Many new items have been added to Control Panel including: Accelerators, ClearType Text Tuner, Display Color Calibration Wizard, Gadgets, Infrared, Recovery, Troubleshooting, Workspaces Center, Location and Other Sensors, Credential Manager, Biometric Devices, System Icons, Windows Solution Center, and Display. Windows Security Center has been renamed the Windows Solution Center (Windows Health Center in earlier builds) which encompass both security and maintenance of the computer.

and more: http://news.digitaltrends.com/talk-back/270/windows-7-kicking-mac-os-butt

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like i said, they'll charge you for an upgrade, and that's it..

if you want it, fine...

if you don't , stick with XP/VISTA

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-1, if I could use two words to describe you, it would be "yes-man". You seem to be of the "bend over and take it philosophy". Not that there is anything wrong with that, from what I understands it makes life a hell of a lot easier.

I agree with Ferris, this should be a SP 3. Not because MS doesn't have the right to release a new OS, of course they do, but Vista has only been out for two years now (really? that long?) And it is still a piece of shit. Yes, as you said Negative 1, just don't by it, nobody is forcing you too... er, sort of. Let's take a look back to the past when Vista first came out, support for XP was dropped, so no new updates, newer programs came out that were designed and intended for use only on Vista. In the case of Halo 2 for the PC, it was released as a Windows Vista only, and while XP would have been more that able to run it, they set it up so that it would not allow installation on any version prior to Vista, not sure how many other programs did that. So, while they weren't forcing you at gun point to upgrade to Vista, they were certianly trying to make things as complicated as possible for those who did not.

It sucks for everyone who dished out the cash to upgrade, only to need to do it again a few years later, while the upgrade they did pay for already has been nothing but a buggy pain in the ass from the getgo.

ferris209 said:

I wouldn't mind so much if they didn't try so hard to force Vista down our throats, not that I don't like it, but it is damn near impossible to buy a new computer with XP installed. Even if you find one that will install it, like Dell, then you're not 100% sure that the drivers will work, like in my new Dell E6400. If they had made the Vista a purely optional deal, then yeah I wouldn't mind so much.

 where are you buying your computers from?

how hard is it to get your own parts, and put together a computer, or go to

a smaller retailer that makes systems????

i've been putting together systems since the 8088 came out, and only recently

with all the changes in computers, am now getting back into it..

its not that hard to avoid VISTA..... did you even try to look around?

(and you could always get a computer with LINUX if you wanted)..

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C3PX said:

-1, if I could use two words to describe you, it would be "yes-man". You seem to be of the "bend over and take it philosophy". Not that there is anything wrong with that, from what I understands it makes life a hell of a lot easier.

easier ? no its the exact opposite....

didn't you see the list of all the versions i've bought since 1.0 ....

how do you think maintaining compatiblity through all those versions has gone through

the years...... you call that easy??????????????? 

in fact with VISTA, i had some issues at the beginning which caused me to downgrade

to XP temporarily..............................................

when you need software that works with a specific version of windows, you don't have

much of a choice do you>?????

besides, i even found a computer (a pentium 4) someone left, and fixed it up for free,

and i have put windows 95/98/XP on a multiboot, because i have programs (mostly games)

THAT ONLY work with specific versions of windows... and will probably never work with XP,

or VISTA...... i dont' call that easy...

So, while they weren't forcing you at gun point to upgrade to Vista, they were certianly trying to make things as complicated as possible for those who did not.

like i said, what do you want them to do? not make a new OS?

not compete with osx, or linux? sit back and keep trying to patch the outdated XP?

no, they have to make new versions, its part of their business model.....

and its always been complicated upgrading..... did you even notice all the problems with

windows 98? (notice all the service packs).. how about the problems with XP? (again, mulitple

service packs)....   VISTA has actually been EASIER to move to, then the upgrades to NT 3.0, NT3.1,

NT 4.0, windows 2000, and yes even XP..

XP had terrible issues when it came out, and i could barely get most of my programs to work

with it..

VISTA has mostly been a breeze, and now that there is service pack, more drivers, and support,

its the way to go forward...

i expect WINDOWS 7 will streamline it even further..

It sucks for everyone who dished out the cash to upgrade, only to need to do it again a few years later, while the upgrade they did pay for already has been nothing but a buggy pain in the **** from the getgo.

 no, that's just a part of their system, i take it you've never needed to upgrade,

so just skip out on it again..

EVERY VERSION OF WINDOWS RELEASED had bugs, this is nothing new...

for those people that constantly use software, and need the newest versions,

we'll be the ones trying it out, while you wait or get left behind...

later

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negative1 said:

C3PX said:

-1, if I could use two words to describe you, it would be "yes-man". You seem to be of the "bend over and take it philosophy". Not that there is anything wrong with that, from what I understands it makes life a hell of a lot easier.

easier ? no its the exact opposite....

It is easier my friend, because rather than struggling and resisting, you simply bend over, relax, and wait for them to insert their penis into your anal cavity. When you stuggle and resist, and tighten up your muscles, it hurts a lot more.

C3PX said:

negative1 said:

C3PX said:

-1, if I could use two words to describe you, it would be "yes-man". You seem to be of the "bend over and take it philosophy". Not that there is anything wrong with that, from what I understands it makes life a hell of a lot easier.

easier ? no its the exact opposite....

 

It is easier my friend, because rather than struggling and resisting, you simply bend over, relax, and wait for them to insert their penis into your anal cavity. When you stuggle and resist, and tighten up your muscles, it hurts a lot more.

Damn it C3PX, you made me upchuck my lunch by laughing so hard......

C3PX said:

negative1 said: It is easier my friend, because rather than struggling and resisting, you simply bend over, relax, and wait for them to insert their ****** into your &&&& cavity. When you stuggle and resist, and tighten up your muscles, it hurts a lot more.

 ???????????????????????????????????????????

what does this have to do with windows 7?

i don't get it????

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negative1 said:

???????????????????????????????????????????

 

what does this have to do with windows 7?

 

i don't get it????

LOL, I suppose you wouldn't.

Oh, I think he does get it....oh yeah, he gets it alright.

vbangle said:

Oh, I think he does get it....oh yeah, he gets it alright.

 well, if you're so smart..

explain it easy to understand words that people can comprehend,

instead of being so cryptic..

is it a joke?

later

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for those people that constantly use software, and need the newest versions,

 

we'll be the ones trying it out, while you wait or get left behind...

"Left behind"? Interesting description. I was running Win2000 up until about a little over a year ago. The only reason I upgraded to XP was because it was necessary for pulling HD video files off my new HD camcorder. Other than that, I was more than happy with 2000, and didn't feel "left behind" in the slightest.

But yeah, I will most likely leapfrog completely over Vista. It has nothing I need (assuming Win7 does). It's the only other Operating System other than Bob that I've never used (I started in the days of DOS 6.0).