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Why, oh, why do they cancel shows this good???
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Hyde: Fezzy, man, it's Star Wars.
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Indeed, Firefly is one of the great tragedy's of our time. Attack of the Clones was passing the $300 million mark in the US box office and this thing was being canned. Not right.
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Glad you have joined our ranks ferris. Though sometimes I wish I never had. Everytime I watch that show I get this huge feeling of disappointment and everytime I turn on the TV and see what stupid shows come on I get this deep feeling of injustice. I can imagine how excited early fans of the show were when they first heard that they would finally be getting to see a conclusion to the show and on the big screen now less.
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This is my screenused Jubal Early stunt pistol.One of the key props from the episode which (three were made-a hero and two stunts),along with Jaynestown,is my favourite episode of the series.
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I need to pick up the Firefly DVD set some time.
Serenity is definitely worth it, Ferris.
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Originally posted by: bigbaddaddyvader
Firefly was awesome.Serenity was very good but was souped-up a bit.Here's one for you Firefly fans from Objects in Space:
This is my screenused Jubal Early stunt pistol.One of the key props from the episode which (three were made-a hero and two stunts),along with Jaynestown,is my favourite episode of the series.
Firefly was awesome.Serenity was very good but was souped-up a bit.Here's one for you Firefly fans from Objects in Space:
This is my screenused Jubal Early stunt pistol.One of the key props from the episode which (three were made-a hero and two stunts),along with Jaynestown,is my favourite episode of the series.
That is awesome! Objects in Space is definitely the best episode in the whole show. Was such a shame--each episode got better and better and that one was just so unique and well-written. To think of how many of episodes of this caliber that might have been made...
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Zoe: (to others) This is something the captain has to do for himself.
Mal: (getting choked) No! Not it's not!
Zoe: Oh, right. (all three crew members shoot the henchman)
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Originally posted by: bigbaddaddyvader
It was fantastically well written that episode.Jubal Early was a great character-very odd and you really start to get a sense of River's importance in that episode also.I was SO psyched to get that pistol!Terrible shame it was cut short.I have some screenused Reaver costume parts from the final battle with the reavers at the end of Serenity coming soon too and also some screenused bank heist money from Serenity.I also love the episodes "Ariel" and "War Stories" but it was a superb show all round.To my understanding a lot of the problem with Firefly was the wider audience reaction that they just didn't know what to make of it with the clash of western and sci-fi.I always thought that was what made it so superb.That clash of the past and the future to make a completely unique entity.Good stuff.
It was fantastically well written that episode.Jubal Early was a great character-very odd and you really start to get a sense of River's importance in that episode also.I was SO psyched to get that pistol!Terrible shame it was cut short.I have some screenused Reaver costume parts from the final battle with the reavers at the end of Serenity coming soon too and also some screenused bank heist money from Serenity.I also love the episodes "Ariel" and "War Stories" but it was a superb show all round.To my understanding a lot of the problem with Firefly was the wider audience reaction that they just didn't know what to make of it with the clash of western and sci-fi.I always thought that was what made it so superb.That clash of the past and the future to make a completely unique entity.Good stuff.
Well, also the fact that the episodes were aired totally out of order didn't help, and also the fact that there was pretty much zero promotion for it. I think a lot of people are turned off by the premise--most audiences hating sci-fi ("eww, Star Trek") and most audiences hating westerns ("eww, Rawhide")--and thats why they never even bothered, but once anyone actually sits down and watches a few minutes of the show they are immediately hooked. Thats why the fan-base was small but intensely loyal. My theory is that had the show been promoted more, been treated respectfully by FOX and allowed Whedon to write the episodes as intended, and given a bit more patience then the show would have slowly buit an audience and by the second season might have been a hit. Networks are so impatient nowadays because if something isn't immediately a runaway hit its canned, even though a lot of the best shows have had gradual buildup (ie Seinfeld, X-Files, Buffy, Family Guy, etc.).
Regarding Objects in Space, I actually was convinced that River had become the ship--I thought that was such a cool, weird sort of daring metaphysical thing to do, it was very mysterious and compelling yet somehow strangely appropriate considering where things were heading with her; I was a little dissapointed to find out that such was not the case (though I understand the reasoning of keeping things real).
That episode has my favourite exchange in the series:
Early [serious]: Where's your sister?
Simon: Are you Alliance?
Early: Am I a lion?
Simon: What?
Early: I don't think of myself as a lion... [liking it] though I do have a mighty roar!
Simon: No, no I said Alliance.
Early: Oh...but I though you--
Simon: No I--
Early: I see. [serious again] Where's your sister?
A great character.
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There is no lingerie in space…
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I always think of Firefly when I play halo 3 now, In particularly there was an Adam Baldwin line in there [as a marine] that echoed Serenity ["It sure would be nice if we had some grenades, Doncha think?"] that had me grinning from ear to ear.
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Originally posted by: Johnny Ringo
It really is a shame because you get a sense watching that last episode that things are really starting to go somewhere new, Especially with River. But then if it had gone on we probably wouldn't have 'Serenity' Which I also love.
It really is a shame because you get a sense watching that last episode that things are really starting to go somewhere new, Especially with River. But then if it had gone on we probably wouldn't have 'Serenity' Which I also love.
If you hadn't gotten Serenity on account of the show going on to a second season and beyond, then you can bet what you would have gotton would have been a lot better and there would have been a lot more of it than just a couple of hours.
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Though, I should say that every reason I loved the TV show is why I simultaneously don't like the "Serenity" movie (it was okay but it certainly didn't do the show any justice).
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Though, I should say that every reason I loved the TV show is why I simultaneously don't like the "Serenity" movie (it was okay but it certainly didn't do the show any justice).
Though, I should say that every reason I loved the TV show is why I simultaneously don't like the "Serenity" movie (it was okay but it certainly didn't do the show any justice).
I also felt that Serenity didn't do the series justice. I watched all the episodes and the movie in order, back to back over the course of a few days, and my expectation for the movie had been build up pretty high between the course of watching the pilot to Objects in Space. But I can see why the people who watched the series because they watched and liked the movie would have a deep fondness for the film.
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I also felt that Serenity didn't do the series justice. I watched all the episodes and the movie in order, back to back over the course of a few days, and my expectation for the movie had been build up pretty high between the course of watching the pilot to Objects in Space. But I can see why the people who watched the series because they watched and liked the movie would have a deep fondness for the film.
I also felt that Serenity didn't do the series justice. I watched all the episodes and the movie in order, back to back over the course of a few days, and my expectation for the movie had been build up pretty high between the course of watching the pilot to Objects in Space. But I can see why the people who watched the series because they watched and liked the movie would have a deep fondness for the film.
In that sense I did like the movie. In terms of being someone who was attached to the show and its characters, the movie sort of worked. It was nice to see them all in action again, and I can't say there was anything outright bad in the film.
Nothing felt the same however. It was like everything I enjoyed on the show was present, but reassembled into a flat, hyped up form. I'm still wishing Joss Whedon had not made the film with the idea to recreate and finish the long-term story he had in mind for the show. That's not what Firefly was about. The whole point of the show, neat people living their lives and trying to make a living in a tough world, was inside out. He should have been a bit more bold and simply focused on a smaller, non-epic story.
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
He should have been a bit more bold and simply focused on a smaller, non-epic story.
He should have been a bit more bold and simply focused on a smaller, non-epic story.
No offense, but... I think that wouldn't have flown. It would have been boring to anyone not going in already interested in Firefly, and the studio probably would have rejected the deal outright.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
No offense, but... I think that wouldn't have flown. It would have been boring to anyone not going in already interested in Firefly, and the studio probably would have rejected the deal outright.
No offense, but... I think that wouldn't have flown. It would have been boring to anyone not going in already interested in Firefly, and the studio probably would have rejected the deal outright.
Probably, but I think Joss Whedon is talented enough where it wouldn't have been anymore boring than the beginning episodes of Firefly were. The studios were mostly just amazed by how well Firefly was selling on DVD. Then by throwing in Serenity's level of action and neat special effects, it might garnered larger profits while still remaining true to what Firefly is about. He would have attached new people to his cool characters (which he did not do in Serenity so well) and perhaps had the option to finish his bigger story ideas in a later movie (or over the span of a few movies). Oh well, that's what I would have had him at least try to do anyways.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
The way television shows are treated some times his shameful. Sometimes I think there is a maximum IQ test for being a TV executive. If you're not dumb enough, they kick you out.
I need to pick up the Firefly DVD set some time.
Serenity is definitely worth it, Ferris.
The way television shows are treated some times his shameful. Sometimes I think there is a maximum IQ test for being a TV executive. If you're not dumb enough, they kick you out.
I need to pick up the Firefly DVD set some time.
Serenity is definitely worth it, Ferris.
Ditto.
Maybe Joss should have sold FIREFLY to the Sci-Fi channel instead of Fox? Maybe then it would still be running. Any show with someone as cute as Jewel Staite deserves at least 5 seasons.
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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Any show with someone as cute as Jewel Staite deserves at least 5 seasons.
Any show with someone as cute as Jewel Staite deserves at least 5 seasons.
Agreed! And she played her character so perfectly. A person like Kaylee would be awesome marriage material. ::wistful sigh::
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Originally posted by: bigbaddaddyvader
Morena Baccarin is as close to the perfect woman as I can imagine and certainly the way Inara is portrayed with the costume,hair,etc and Morena's natural beauty.............damn fine woman.
Morena Baccarin is as close to the perfect woman as I can imagine and certainly the way Inara is portrayed with the costume,hair,etc and Morena's natural beauty.............damn fine woman.
I was shocked the other night by my wife. We were watching an episode of Firefly when during a scene where Inara was brushing Kaylee's hair, my wife blurted out, "You know, if I was going to be with another woman, it'd be a woman like Inara!" I almost fell off of the couch, I'd never heard my wife make any such comment and as totally rejected any idea like this our whole 6+ years together. I simply replied, "Well, I know what I must do now and what I have to look for!" A great moment in history for me I guess.
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Agreed! And she played her character so perfectly. A person like Kaylee would be awesome marriage material. ::wistful sigh::
Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Any show with someone as cute as Jewel Staite deserves at least 5 seasons.
Any show with someone as cute as Jewel Staite deserves at least 5 seasons.
Agreed! And she played her character so perfectly. A person like Kaylee would be awesome marriage material. ::wistful sigh::
You could tell she was really enjoying herself with that role, and that adds to her already natural cuteness.
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