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I keep getting confused and thinking silver screen edition when you abbreviate it like that.

I dunno, I find the color grading far too yellow and I think he should have just reverted the whole mos eisley intro back to theatrical because I thought the way he tried to edit the worst parts out but keep SE video to be somewhat choppy.

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Hello everyone, new user here. I just have to say that watching the Despecialized versions really is something special. I actually tried watching ANH from the recent offical blu ray set last night for a family movie, idk it just feels so off. Especially since the Despecialized have been my go to versions for the past 2 years almost. The Special Editions, to me, are an interesting bonus feature, but the original films are what makes Star Wars so special to me. In my opinion, it just seems like the things that George Lucas cared so much about changing were so unimportant, like all the extra CG scenes. I would have much preffered restoring the Luke/Biggs scenes on Tatooine over any of the CG stuff (that includes the Jabba scene, man does that scene just look terrible in 2017). That’s my 2 cents lol, looking forward to more conversations everyone.

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belgianwacko said:

is there really a reason i should watch harmy’s instead of SSE ?

Just depends how nuts you are about this stuff.
Most of us here have watched dozens of different versions of all the films and have our preferences, but I can’t say the general population of SW fans do the same.
Considering you’re already here though you may as well check them out, the worst that can happen is you won’t like them I guess?

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belgianwacko said:

but as far as i read it, the changes of the SSE version are beneficial and don’t actually change the movie as such besides keeping some of the better (visual) changes ?

I mostly agree. Like others have said, the color grading is a bit too yellow for my taste. And I prefer the completely theatrical mos eisley entrance. Other than that and a few things, I definitely consider many of the SE changes to be very nice. I just go with Adywans revisited since he deletes the worst changes, keeps the best ones, and then improves on those changes and makes countless improvements himself. It is a damn fine fanedit that is the best version of ANH hands down IMO.

Return of the Jedi: Remastered

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crissrudd4554 said:

Sometimes you have to wonder if Lucas predicted that within a few years that VHS would be obsolete and thus the unavailability of the OUT would become a reality, at least until he gave into studio pressure in 2006. You have to remember DVD didnt exist yet when the ‘Faces’ sets were released.

He did. He said as much in 1996.

My watching habits are almost exclusively Harmy’s Despecialized Edition (with the mono soundtrack for Star Wars). Every once in a while I watch either Silver Screen or Adywan’s.

– Bill

Never tell me the odds.

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Tallguy said:

(with the mono soundtrack for Star Wars).

Is there a reason for this? Genuinely interested, I actually still haven’t properly sat through Harmy’s edits in full or looked into them too much.

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Ryan-SWI said:

Tallguy said:

(with the mono soundtrack for Star Wars).

Is there a reason for this? Genuinely interested, I actually still haven’t properly sat through Harmy’s edits in full or looked into them too much.

Not my video but this video does show some examples between the mono and stereo mixes.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aeXpcYcZNDw

Ben Burtt said in an interview that at the time they purposely added and changed more things in the mono mix because at the time they thought it would become the default mix. Keep in mind many major studio films as well as most if not all television programming was still being mixed in mono at the time so this wasn’t necessarily a dumb decision on their part. But low and behold they reverted to the stereo mix for the video releases and it’s only in recent years through these fan edits and preservations that fans have been able to discover this very rare and different mono mix.

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crissrudd4554 said:

Ryan-SWI said:

Tallguy said:

(with the mono soundtrack for Star Wars).

Is there a reason for this? Genuinely interested, I actually still haven’t properly sat through Harmy’s edits in full or looked into them too much.

Not my video but this video does show some examples between the mono and stereo mixes.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aeXpcYcZNDw

Ben Burtt said in an interview that at the time they purposely added and changed more things in the mono mix because at the time they thought it would become the default mix. Keep in mind many major studio films as well as most if not all television programming was still being mixed in mono at the time so this wasn’t necessarily a dumb decision on their part. But low and behold they reverted to the stereo mix for the video releases and it’s only in recent years through these fan edits and preservations that fans have been able to discover this very rare and different mono mix.

Thanks for the link. There are many things about the mono mix that I just like. For one thing, I’m 99% certain that this was the mix that I heard in 1977. (I saw it four times, but I was eight!) I vividly remember “Close the blast doors” and I remember the audience laughing at “Open the blast doors!” I don’t remember Beru sounding the way she does in mono at all, but it is a much more natural sounding dub then the terrible dub in stereo. There are a few beeps and boops that sound much more like what I remember from the cinema. (When they turn on the Falcon’s targeting computer in the TIE fighter attack is one.) The Death Star voice (“The death star will be in firing range…”) sounds bad-ass. Just a guy doing his job. I miss the radio filter on the rebel pilots, but ah well.

Oh, and Luke says “Blast it WEDGE where are you?” right after Wedge says he’s on his way. In stereo he’s asking after Biggs. What, Wedge isn’t good enough for you, farm boy?

Funny thing about the blast doors. When the SE came out and restored “Close the blast doors” I had very mixed feelings. I was glad the line was back but it sounded wrong. Like they had used a different take or something. Last year I found out that The Story of Star Wars record (which I played into the ground in 1978) used the mono. And it used exactly that take! So much for my amazing memory!

– Bill

Never tell me the odds.

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Tallguy said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Ryan-SWI said:

Tallguy said:

(with the mono soundtrack for Star Wars).

Is there a reason for this? Genuinely interested, I actually still haven’t properly sat through Harmy’s edits in full or looked into them too much.

Not my video but this video does show some examples between the mono and stereo mixes.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aeXpcYcZNDw

Ben Burtt said in an interview that at the time they purposely added and changed more things in the mono mix because at the time they thought it would become the default mix. Keep in mind many major studio films as well as most if not all television programming was still being mixed in mono at the time so this wasn’t necessarily a dumb decision on their part. But low and behold they reverted to the stereo mix for the video releases and it’s only in recent years through these fan edits and preservations that fans have been able to discover this very rare and different mono mix.

Oh, and Luke says “Blast it WEDGE where are you?” right after Wedge says he’s on his way. In stereo he’s asking after Biggs. What, Wedge isn’t good enough for you, farm boy?

Ooh, I never caught that! I actually thought that was a change Adywan made.
“Wedge” makes more sense, and so it’s the better line to use, but “Blast it Biggs” has such a good sound to it!

JEDIT: you could argue that Luke says “Biggs” because they’re friends and expected to watch out for one another. Would be better if the deleted Biggs scenes were in the film. Cough-seemysig-cough!

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Biggs in ANH edit idea
ROTJ opening edit idea

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Although I prefer the stereo mix just cause I like most here am just used it, one thing that I do like about the mono mix is what I assumed were SE audio changes were in fact carry overs from the mono mix. Now when I hear those bits I don’t hear with as much cringing as I had done before.

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crissrudd4554 said:

Although I prefer the stereo mix just cause I like most here am just used it, one thing that I do like about the mono mix is what I assumed were SE audio changes were in fact carry overs from the mono mix. Now when I hear those bits I don’t hear with as much cringing as I had done before.

I thought I was going to have to eat some crow over liking the mono but disliking the SE. Fortunately all of the boops and beeps in the Falcon cockpit (the change that sticks out most in my mind) seem to be from the SE, so I’m still (mostly) pure. I hope. 😃

I just realized that it’s been nearly 20 years since I saw the SEs! (Whenever they came out on VHS.)

– Bill

Never tell me the odds.

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i’ve recently been digging the Team Blu GOUT upscale for SW and Dreamaster’s denoised Grindhouse ESB. Still sticking with Harmy’s ROTJ because it’s the only high def version I know of apart from the Grindhouse, which is a little too raw for my tastes. I find myself more drawn to stuff that comes from a single source these days than the Frankenstein approach of the DE though, even if the quality does take a hit.