Waterworld [spoRv] (Released)

,^…^, presents Waterworld [spoRv] - special project of Remuxed version

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Mission: to fix Waterworld best video and couple it with best audio tracks.

Video source: Italian HD-DVD.

Audio sources: Cinema DTS and laserdisc for english tracks, Italian HD-DVD for foreign audio tracks.

Subtitles sources: Italian HD-DVD for all the tracks.

Project info:

Waterworld is available on Blu-ray; despite the fact it has an higher bitrate of the HD-DVD, the latter is considered by many of higher quality, without DNR; but its color grading is a bit too magenta, so it’s color corrected to display better blue gradients.

I also thought to add the Cinema DTS track, plus the analog english track from the laserdisc; foreign languages are from the HD-DVD Dolby Digital Plus track; they lack the .1 subwoofer track, so it’s taken from the Cinema DTS, and is re-encoded to DD 640kbps.

Source Material

Video:

• Waterworld - Italian HD-DVD

Audio:

• Waterworld - Cinema DTS audio track
• Waterworld - laserdisc
• Waterworld - Italian HD-DVD

Subtitles:

• English, French, German, Italian, Spanish.

Final format: BD-25

Video:

• vc-1 1920x1080 1.85:1, 23.976fps, 16.3mbps, UNTOUCHED from HD-DVD

Audio:

• English DTS 1509kbps 5.1 16bit 48kHz - from Cinema DTS
• English PCM 1536kbps 2.0 16bit 48kHz - from laserdisc analog track
• French AC3 640kbps 5.1 16bit 48kHz - from HD-DVD Dolby Digital Plus
• German AC3 640kbps 5.1 16bit 48kHz - from HD-DVD Dolby Digital Plus
• Italian AC3 640kbps 5.1 16bit 48kHz - from HD-DVD Dolby Digital Plus
• Spanish AC3 640kbps 5.1 16bit 48kHz - from HD-DVD Dolby Digital Plus

Subtitles:

• English
• French
• German
• Italian
• Spanish

Notes:

• Main animated menu, static soundtrack and subtitle settings menu, static chapters menu
• Blu-ray custom made outside and inside covers, plus disc label; chapters.

"Partner in crime":

• DoomBot and Jetrell Fo for the DTS Cinema track.

Project Status: NEARLY COMPLETED

As there will be some empty space in the BD-25, I want to fill it with ONE secondary english soundtrack from laserdisc.

Which do you prefer between these:

1. DTS
2. PCM
3. Analog

I'd like to NOT include the DTS, as there will be the Cinema DTS one, so probably the laserdisc will be really similar; still don't know if to use the PCM, or the analog, just to make something different; these ones should reflect the 4.0 theatrical mix, so I'm almost surely choose one of them, to have a different mix.

I don't think there is a commentary track somewhere, but if it exist, please let me know; also, maybe I could find a place to add also an HD trailer...

@PDB: as it seems that the theatrical mix was 5.1 - as you can find in this thread - so probably the DTS from laserdisc will be the same; as both DD+ from HD-DVD and DTS-HD MA from BD are commercialy available, I thought to not add these tracks for now - but I will do a BD-50 with them only if I will find out the laserdisc tracks for german, spanish and french, plus italian from my own LD.

So, I should only choose one track between PCM (easy) and analog...

@applesandrice: this project is born almost for joke... I mean, somewhere I read the HD-DVD was considered better than the BD; I had the HD-DVD... as I must learn how to rip an HD-DVD, I made 1+1=2, so...

It's almost done, I just have to capture the laserdisc soundtrack; I think there will be no compatibility issue this time, as video will be left "as is"... of course, I will test it with more players than my two PS3 consoles, now that I know the latter could read almost everything, while "normal" stand alone BD players are more "picky" (^^,)

Of course, beta testers with a BD burner AND a standalone BD player - NOT a PS3 - are more than welcome!

Even if the Television Cut DVD release is not great, what about adding the TV Cut as an bonus feature to the Disc? Even without subtitles would it be a nice addition.

TV CUT = Extended Cut... as there is an R1 DVD around, I don't think it's so useful to add it here; plus the BD-25 is almost full, and I don't want to force users to burn a BD-50 for "only" 30GB of data... (^^,)

Plus, don't forget there is always the Ulysses Cut DVD - made by a member of this forum!

The only known extra seems The Making of Waterworld... here is the "proof" of its existence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEaORa5zKm0

Maybe it's easier to find the Holy Grail than this!

Updates:

the Cinema DTS track is slightly out of sync compared to the HD-DVD tracks; plus, its phase is inverted (also in comparison to BD); so, I managed to fix these things.

Plus, the french, german, italian and spanish tracks from the HD-DVD have an empty .1 channel; I extracted it from the DTS track, and replaced the empty one for each language with this.

I'm going to capture the PCM laserdisc track now, unless someone thinks that the analog track is better and/or different from the PCM one...

AUDIO:

I can't find my non-DTS laserdisc, so I decided to use the analog track from the DTS one; indeed, the quality is very good!

LASERDISC GLITCH:

As I captured video to use it as reference for audio sync, I discovered this glitch:

note the white trail of the jet ski on the left; it's over the black side... and it continues to stay there for the whole shot!

If you want to say it in motion, here you are a small clip: http://www.sendspace.com/file/lwkp1g - 4.3MB

COLOR CORRECTION:

As the HD-DVD (and BD too, I think) has a slightly "wrong" color grading (IMHO and other's, too), I thought to use the laserdisc as color reference; its colors are better, but still not "right"... I decided to NOT use a color matching script this time, but to make a simple color correction, to get rid of all those grey-ish, pink-ish etc. skies and seas, using the laserdisc colors as example in many scenes.

Left, color corrected; right, untouched (bottom, link to larger version):

http://s17.postimg.org/4b3wbujfx/ww_cc_002208.jpg

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http://s17.postimg.org/6r5ppp1il/ww_cc_008410.jpg

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http://s17.postimg.org/n4pp8uhnx/ww_cc_012201.jpg

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http://s17.postimg.org/ptkhyvn59/ww_cc_058869.jpg

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http://s17.postimg.org/wy2b7wuel/ww_cc_074322.jpg

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http://s17.postimg.org/jmdpcggrx/ww_cc_078621.jpg

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http://s17.postimg.org/tkynyxq7h/ww_cc_106595.jpg

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http://s17.postimg.org/54bwqq031/ww_cc_138342.jpg

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Not perfect, but a good balance; I think I reached the goal to make Waterworld a film with blue sea and sky as it should be; skin colors remain the same, as green of the vegetation at the end; the only drawback seems to be that sometimes jet ski, trimaran and boat trails are blueish instead whiteish, but it's a small price I'm happy to pay, and you?

Here you are the screenshot comparison link:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/66386/

as for the test clip, as I began to encode the final video, I'm not sure if I'm going to produce a test clip, the encode will do its job perfectly, so I prefer to finish to encode before. At least, with the screenshot comparison you have 8 different frames to compare; even if the color corrected one isn't perfect, as I wrote also in my previous post, it's better IMHO of the HD-DVD color grading...

It's difficult to make a simple color grading and keep the white "pure"... I agree it could be seen in the reflections, but for example in the 7th picture the HD-DVD one is pinkish, so not "right" too...

But even if it seems cold - and indeed it's colder than the HD-DVD - as many think the HD-DVD is a bit too warm, final result should be more or less balanced, maybe a bit colder than what it should be, but "truer" to the spirit of the movie, almost all upon the sea and below the sky...

I don't mind if the final result of the corrected version is not natural; this is a post-apocalyptic movie, after all; as Mad Max DVD has "wrong" natural colors, it has "right" post-apocalyptic colors, you know what I mean...

Guess what? I forgot to disable automatic updates, and my PC thought to restart itself to let a new update work... so, Waterworld processing stopped at around 30%... oh, well, it was "just" one day of processing... (**n)

Well, here you are a test clip - the one from first screenshot; reflections are not so blue as it seems in the image, though:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/iiimzy - 73MB, no sound

Waiting for your feedbacks!

After some further tweaks, I think I reached a better color balance now, with better whites. I'm going to process this right now.