The Terminator (1984) - Original Theatrical Mono Preservation (Released) — Page 4

I don't suppose this torrent exists any more does it?

I've just gotten into tracking down fixed versions of my favorite films, but it looks like I'm a few years too late.

TAP said:

I don't suppose this torrent exists any more does it?

I've just gotten into tracking down fixed versions of my favorite films, but it looks like I'm a few years too late.

Search for 'regraded terminator' on tehparadox and you should be able to get it there. I recommend the 16gb version.

kk650 said:

TAP said:

I don't suppose this torrent exists any more does it?

I've just gotten into tracking down fixed versions of my favorite films, but it looks like I'm a few years too late.

Search for 'regraded terminator' on tehparadox and you should be able to get it there. I recommend the 16gb version.

 Does it require an invite like Myspleen?

I recently joined there, but it seems unlikely anyone will be sending an invite my way.

I was able to get a hold of this and am curious if this still requires the +8950 delay for the 2013 US bluray or will it mux just fine as quoted above "It will work with any remastered version of the new Blu-ray released worldwide [2012-2013 releases]."

Thank you!!

TAP said:

kk650 said:

TAP said:

I don't suppose this torrent exists any more does it?

I've just gotten into tracking down fixed versions of my favorite films, but it looks like I'm a few years too late.

Search for 'regraded terminator' on tehparadox and you should be able to get it there. I recommend the 16gb version.

 Does it require an invite like Myspleen?

I recently joined there, but it seems unlikely anyone will be sending an invite my way.

No need for a myspleen invite. Just download jdownloader and download the .dlc file using the link under the 1fichier heading in the kk650 terminator 16gb release thread. Open the .dlc file with jdownloader and the parts should be added to the program, then highlights the parts, right click, then select 'download selected files'. It should ask you to agree to the 1fichier conditions. Agree and it should start downloading the parts. When they've finished downloading, extract the file with winrar.

kaosjm said:

I was able to get a hold of this and am curious if this still requires the +8950 delay for the 2013 US bluray or will it mux just fine as quoted above "It will work with any remastered version of the new Blu-ray released worldwide [2012-2013 releases]."

Thank you!!

 Are you talking about the mono preservation or the 16gb terminator release?

If you're talking about the mono track, I have no idea though i'd imagine that it'd sync to the blu-ray with no delay required.

If you're talking about the 16gb terminator release, all the audio tracks are already synced to the video so no delays need to be added.

Thank you for your help kk650. I was meaning to thank you as well for your DTS Matrix release. It sounds great!

I am in the process of providing a copy of The Matrix laserdisc to another user for review to compare to the DVD and other editions to see if it is worth referencing for a regrade. I'll be taking screenshot comparisons this weekend if I can manage to get my laserdisc player hooked up to my PC for capture. I'm using a Yamaha CDV-W901. I hope it is sufficient for at least providing appropriate quality screenshots... It's no MUSE player :|

People on the LDDB forum already compared "The Matrix" LD's color timing to the first DVD; it's the same. Sorry you missed the news.

drngr said:

People on the LDDB forum already compared "The Matrix" LD's color timing to the first DVD; it's the same. Sorry you missed the news.

 Thanks for the heads up I wasn't aware. I was having a tough time getting my equipment setup this weekend and this saved me some of the trouble.

thanks

I remember keeping track of this before it was released. I happened to think about it yesterday and got excited all over again. Guess I'm a couple years late!

Is there any possible way I could still grab a download? I'd like to just get the audio file since I already own the blu-ray.

I remember reading that the 5.1 mix of Terminator was not the first attempt by Cameron to “better” his 1984 low budget movie. Does anyone remember which other home video versions had alteration prior to the 5.1 DVD in 2001?

MrBrown said:

thxita said:

I remember reading that the 5.1 mix of Terminator was not the first attempt by Cameron to “better” his 1984 low budget movie. Does anyone remember which other home video versions had alteration prior to the 5.1 DVD in 2001?

There was a LD with the so called Chace Fake Stereo Mix.

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/30336/2535/Terminator-The

Some Discussion on that mix occured here: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Look-of-Terminator-2/id/17850

Edit😄iscussion regarding the fake Stereo Mix (it is indeed Mono, but altered) starts at page 6.

Is it fake because it’s just a double mono or did Cameron attempt to make further changes to the original sounds? Were sound effects changed only for the early DVD “remastered” audio?
I’m trying to make a timeline of the main audio changes and I remember somebody saying (not sure if here or elsewhere) that Cameron’s tinkering started already in the 90s when he was clumsly trying to give Terminator a better audio than the original flat “mono”

Heres something I just noticed. I was watching my MGM DVD of T1 and was watching the scene where the Terminator breaks into Sarah and Kyles motel and opens fire. He then goes over to the bathroom and kicks the door in. In the mono version, you can hear the gun firing in the background when it cuts to Kyle and Sarah hijacking the pickup truck. Until now I assumed that sound was a drumroll in the music. Nope it was the gun. How I know and what point Im making with this post is I played the scene again with the 5.1 mix and theres NO sound after Terminator kicks the door in! Interesting huh?

zeropc said:

mgm/sony has released james cameron’s sci-fi classic with a brand new transfer, which looks fantastic. one could argue that the inclusion of a more modern day tint, subtle but still noticeable, is a bad thing. personally i have no real problem with it.
the real problem is the omission of the original theatrical mono mix. fans have asked mgm for the inclusion since the first blu-ray release and yet again mgm ignored the fans call. but what about the 5.1 remix supervised/mixed by academy award winner gary rydstrom? is it really that bad? the answer is no. it’s a good remix, with a modern touch and a tie in with sfx of terminator 2, e.g. phaser sounds of the hunter killers. but some changes are pretty big compared to the original mix (especially the gunshot sfx change in the sarah conner killing scene) and that’s what a lot fans got on the fence. i recommend to see the new 5.1 mix as an alternate mix. nothing more, nothing less.

back to topic…

luckily the original mono mix was previously released on laserdisc and on dvd. so the preservation was rather easy. with the help of a friend, shoutouts to jj666 for his awesome syncing job, anyone with the new 2012 blu-ray release can now enjoy the lossless original theatrical mono mix.

source: the terminator thx laserdisc - pcm captured via toslink by myself
synced by jj666 to the u.k. blu-ray
release format: flac, 16bit mono at 44.1khz
download: -

_the laserdisc had different studio logos then the new u.k. blu-ray. did you change this?
yes. i have added the mgm lion logo and orion picture sounds to the mono mix, so that the audio and video match.
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can this be synced to the u.s. blu-ray?
my audio track needs a delay of +8950ms to make it sync with the u.s. blu-ray. this delay value was confirmed by NeonBible.

why do you use flac instead of wav?
flac is a lossless codec and saves spaces. it’s practically identical to wave. you can easily transcode it to wav, if you need to. you wont loose any quality, hence lossless.

please note: if you share this on another place, then don’t forget to give credit to the people making this release possible.

Hello! This is my first post on here and want to understand this simply clear. Is this the only blu ray that plays the original mono music?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003BNY6YY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A27JSCD0I9BZF
How is this UK blu ray picture quality compared to the US version for I’ve seen UK films in VHS and they’ve all been of inferior picture quality compared to the US versions. Will this UK version work on my US blu ray player? Since this post is a couple of years old what about today? Any US versions of the blu ray that have the original mono music yet?

nevermind

Sadly no BluRay editions of Terminator feature the mono.

Recently I took my Japanese version of The Terminator on LaserDisc and ripped it myself - and was totally disappointed. If anyone required confirmation that a soundtrack being on LaserDisc doesn’t necessarily mean that it has been flawlessly sourced, then this is the ultimate proof unfortunately: low volume, low dynamic range and overly shitty quality. The movies indeed sounds another 10 years older that it is. 😦

I’d really love to know the story behind such stupidity - maybe it goes like that:

Two Japanese guys:

A: “hey, this movie is great. Let’s get the fresh US master, it’s way better than what we aired years ago on TV”
B: “how long does that take?”
A: “maybe two weeks to arrive and it will cost. But trust me, it has better dynamics since not adjusted for broadcasting”
B: “hell no, dump the shit we already have, most people neither care nor ever notice!”

http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=57ba3f-1451422490.jpg

Much to my horror I put my terminator DVD in the player just now and was horrified… I have not watched it in ages but I thought I upgraded to the 2 disc special edition digi-pack. Perhaps in terms of picture but I was gutted that I have this crap sound mix on my DVD.

I’m going to have to hunt down the old version again now!

It’s totally different gun sounds and different levels of different sounds and so on.

I think the UK version that had the original mix or Mono converted stero mix was the one where there was writing on his sunglasses If I recall not just the red dot.

I’d rather just get the coverted stereo version either US region 1 or the bare bones UK release at least it sounds familiar or get the the mono PCM mix if all else fails.

I’ve been dissecting a Cantonese Mix of Enter the Dragon and although it’s got plenty of extra sound contained within it you won’t hear on the Warner releases and even the theatrical mono mix of Enter the dragon it don’t sound quite right and I would assume this could also be the case on that release. But that’s a totally different film and issue as it was a dual Production from both Honk Kong and the US.

I may get the US bare bones version if all else fails