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The Prequel Trilogy showdown

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I just watched OT despecialized and i think Harmy did great job on bringing back OT in better quality, but im in dilema about PT, and what version should i watch, theatrical version, dvd version, bluray version or fanedit (and why)
Hopefully you guys can help me out with this one, just please dont go offtrack
ty in advance and may the force be with you all

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I like Hal9000’s edits an awful lot. His cuts improve the tone and pacing dramatically while leaving enough intact that they don’t feel rushed, which is a problem I’ve had with other edits.

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For AOTC, by rushed, you mean well-paced?

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I think there are edits that make the prequels worth watching. Not masterpieces like the original two, but entertaining enough to be worth watching.

^ Needs to pull the stick out.

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If you want to have a laugh, watch TV’s Frink’s (wow, is there a correct way to do that < ?) Rediculous edits of Episode I and Episode II. Those are the only fan edits of the prequels that i have actually seen the whole way through.

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I have no idea why prequels are so hated, but soon i find out right after choosing which one to see, i know bluray are called canon ones, and in OT theatrical were best ones and i agree for OT part
What do fanedits give that make TP more watchable
I want to have best experience watching but still see what was wrong with it

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I think that TPM desserves to be watched in its theatrical version: all that was boring in theaters is even more boring on Blu-ray (the podrace, which was already very long in theaters, is now endless; the added taxi scene just gives you more of Jar Jar; CGI-Yoda adds more videogame-like CGI air to the movie…).
But the only current way to see the theatrical version of TPM is a Laserdisc preservation or Adywan’s reconstruction (which is not in HD, and contains some minor oversights).

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ZigZig said:

I think that TPM desserves to be watched in its theatrical version: all that was boring in theaters is even more boring on Blu-ray (the podrace, which was already very long in theaters, is now endless; the added taxi scene just gives you more of Jar Jar; CGI-Yoda adds more videogame-like CGI air to the movie…).
But the only current way to see the theatrical version of TPM is a Laserdisc preservation or Adywan’s reconstruction (which is not in HD, and contains some minor oversights).

Tbh i was thinking about TPM in theatrical, and i saw on forums adywans version, but what do you mean by some minor oversights

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dahmage said:

If you want to have a laugh, watch TV’s Frink’s (wow, is there a correct way to do that < ?) Rediculous edits of Episode I and Episode II. Those are the only fan edits of the prequels that i have actually seen the whole way through.

This post is ridiculous. :p

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Episode I: The Ridiculous Menace / Episode II: Attack Of The Ridiculousness / Episode III: Revenge of the Ridiculousness

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It really doesn’t matter. You aren’t missing anything either way, so I would probably just grab the blu rays and experience them the same way that everyone else did. The PT fan edits are the equivalent of spraying air freshener on a huge pile of horseshit.

 

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Cobra Kai said:

It really doesn’t matter. You aren’t missing anything either way, so I would probably just grab the blu rays and experience them the same way that everyone else did. The PT fan edits are the equivalent of spraying air freshener on a huge pile of horseshit.

I’d rather nice smelling crap that terrible smelling crap, if I have to choose.

If nothing else, fanedits are shorter.

And what do you mean by “experience them the same way that everyone else did?” That’s not the Blu-rays.

Episode I: The Ridiculous Menace / Episode II: Attack Of The Ridiculousness / Episode III: Revenge of the Ridiculousness

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Destinyg133 said:

ZigZig said:

I think that TPM desserves to be watched in its theatrical version: all that was boring in theaters is even more boring on Blu-ray (the podrace, which was already very long in theaters, is now endless; the added taxi scene just gives you more of Jar Jar; CGI-Yoda adds more videogame-like CGI air to the movie…).
But the only current way to see the theatrical version of TPM is a Laserdisc preservation or Adywan’s reconstruction (which is not in HD, and contains some minor oversights).

Tbh i was thinking about TPM in theatrical, and i saw on forums adywans version, but what do you mean by some minor oversights

Adywan forgot to remove one added CGI effect (there is a new bridge near Naboo Palace that was not in the theatrical version).

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I second the vote for HAL 9000’s prequel trilogy edits, especially Episode II.

I’ve also heard of people doing Seciors’ Episode I, HAL’s Episode II, and l8wrtr’s Episode III for various reasons (it’s slightly closer to canon anyway since l8wrtr doesn’t keep Padme alive and I believe he also kept the Yoda/Sidious duel which HAL cut).

I also quite liked NFBism’s Canon Cut of Episode III, but it’s not 100% finished yet and he hasn’t been around lately from what I can tell. For that you’d have to PM him for a link to the workprint. He’s got a thread for it in the SW Fan Edits section of the forum.

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TV’s Frink said:

Cobra Kai said:

It really doesn’t matter. You aren’t missing anything either way, so I would probably just grab the blu rays and experience them the same way that everyone else did. The PT fan edits are the equivalent of spraying air freshener on a huge pile of horseshit.

I’d rather nice smelling crap that terrible smelling crap, if I have to choose.

If nothing else, fanedits are shorter.

And what do you mean by “experience them the same way that everyone else did?” That’s not the Blu-rays.

Yeah sorry, should have specified. The blu rays versions are a little different, sure, but nothing that would change the viewing experience, other than the fact that you dont get to see the horrible yoda puppet. As far as I know all other changes are very minor, so you are essentially watching the exact same movies, but in a better picture quality compared to the theatrical dvd’s. But again, either way, it doesn’t matter… Blu ray, dvd, vhs… Pick your poison.

 

"In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be "replaced" by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten." - George Lucas

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Cobra Kai said:

TV’s Frink said:

Cobra Kai said:

It really doesn’t matter. You aren’t missing anything either way, so I would probably just grab the blu rays and experience them the same way that everyone else did. The PT fan edits are the equivalent of spraying air freshener on a huge pile of horseshit.

I’d rather nice smelling crap that terrible smelling crap, if I have to choose.

If nothing else, fanedits are shorter.

And what do you mean by “experience them the same way that everyone else did?” That’s not the Blu-rays.

Yeah sorry, should have specified. The blu rays versions are a little different, sure, but nothing that would change the viewing experience, other than the fact that you dont get to see the horrible yoda puppet. As far as I know all other changes are very minor, so you are essentially watching the exact same movies, but in a better picture quality compared to the theatrical dvd’s. But again, either way, it doesn’t matter… Blu ray, dvd, vhs… Pick your poison.

In TPM, the podrace is very different.

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The post-VHS editing changes to TPM (extended podraxe, air taxi sequence) kill the already-shaky pacing of TPM for me. I have been seriously considering doing an “updated theatrical cut” which takes the Blu-Ray video (with CGI Yoda and such) and conforms it to the theatrical edit, so that if I ever have the desire to watch a non-fanedited TPM, I don’t have to sit through that puppet or the dumb extra scenes ever again…

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ZigZig said:

Cobra Kai said:

TV’s Frink said:

Cobra Kai said:

It really doesn’t matter. You aren’t missing anything either way, so I would probably just grab the blu rays and experience them the same way that everyone else did. The PT fan edits are the equivalent of spraying air freshener on a huge pile of horseshit.

I’d rather nice smelling crap that terrible smelling crap, if I have to choose.

If nothing else, fanedits are shorter.

And what do you mean by “experience them the same way that everyone else did?” That’s not the Blu-rays.

Yeah sorry, should have specified. The blu rays versions are a little different, sure, but nothing that would change the viewing experience, other than the fact that you dont get to see the horrible yoda puppet. As far as I know all other changes are very minor, so you are essentially watching the exact same movies, but in a better picture quality compared to the theatrical dvd’s. But again, either way, it doesn’t matter… Blu ray, dvd, vhs… Pick your poison.

In TPM, the podrace is very different.

Fair enough. I wasn’t aware of any other major changes besides yoda. But I also probably wouldn’t notice anyway, as I have tried to completely excise them from my memory.

 

"In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be "replaced" by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten." - George Lucas

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So as far as PT goes, it kinda doesnt matter which version im going for? Only OT was altered to the point of serious changing?

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Destinyg133 said:

So as far as PT goes, it kinda doesnt matter which version im going for? Only OT was altered to the point of serious changing?

IMHO, TPM was also altered to the point of serious changing (maybe even more than ANH) : new scenes, deleted scenes, scenes recut in another order, new colors, new framings, Yoda totally remade with CGI… AOTC and ROTS are quite similar between theaters and Blu-ray.

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TV’s Frink said:

ZigZig said:

Destinyg133 said:

So as far as PT goes, it kinda doesnt matter which version im going for? Only OT was altered to the point of serious changing?

IMHO, TPM was also altered to the point of serious changing (maybe even more than ANH)

Greedo disagrees.

I forgot Greedo. Well ANH was definitely more butchered than TPM.

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Q2’s Fall of the Jedi Trilogy fanedits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HesmWVhuTg4

  • “Chosen One” nonsense is removed;
  • Droid anachronisms are removed (in fact, the droids themselves are almost entirely cut);
  • Anakin’s fate at the end of Episode III is edited, leaving ESB revelation intact;
  • Padme’s fate at the end of Episode III is altered, leaving Luke’s ROTJ revelation intact and allowing his conversation with Leia on Endor to make more sense;
  • Anakin is far less whiny;
  • Obi-Wan is far less argumentative;
  • Anakin and Padme don’t fight their feelings;
  • VERY little dialogue and antics from Jar Jar;

…and that’s off the top of my head.

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Harmy said:
It’s like it’s quite possible that Picasso would have loved to use Photoshop for some of his paintings if it was available back then, but if you take a picture from Picasso and recreate it in Photoshop, it’s not going to be the same picture and it can hardly be used to demonstrate Picasso’s brush techniques.

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