Rather than spending nearly two decades building a Death Star (that it would later take three or four years to rebuild bigger) here are the Sith over-seeing the construction of the new Imperial Star Destroyers :
Yeah, I really liked seeing the Death Star construction. Even in the theater, it got me excited but I guess it is kind of ridicules that it took about 20 years to make the first one and like 3 years to make the 2nd bigger one. So I guess this is a good idea. Perhaps also showing them build TIEs?
but I guess it is kind of ridicules that it took about 20 years to make the first one and like 3 years to make the 2nd bigger one
Mmm, maybe we could say that the first Death Star took three years to build also. It is just its "destroyer of world" ultimate weapon that is not fully operational yet at the begining of ANH. Maby the Death Star was a secret base for the Empire for a long time.
I am not a Lucas apologist here, I just try to (desperately) find a solution.
TMBTM said:but I guess it is kind of ridicules that it took about 20 years to make the first one and like 3 years to make the 2nd bigger one
Mmm, maybe we could say that the first Death Star took three years to build also. It is just its "destroyer of world" ultimate weapon that is not fully operational yet at the begining of ANH. Maby the Death Star was a secret base for the Empire for a long time.
I am not a Lucas apologist here, I just try to (desperately) find a solution.
"Until this battle station is fully operation, we are vulnerable" and that was days before it's first firing on Alderaan.
The only way of keeping the Death Star being built in ROTS is to have the second one also being built roughly about the same time, Death Star One, is Fatman to Death Star Two's Little Boy ( I mean in terms of when they are built not in size as DS2 is meant to bigger which would also slow it's building down).
Resources may have been focused on getting the first one finished at a later stage, halting progress on the second one and using the first Death Star to iron out the bugs in the systems.
Bingowings said:Rather than spending nearly two decades building a Death Star (that it would later take three or four years to rebuild bigger) here are the Sith over-seeing the construction of the new Imperial Star Destroyers :
Very nice...this is basically what Adywan said he's going to try in ROTS:R.
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I don't know why seeing Victory class Star Destroyers would really have as much of an impact on the audience as seeing the Death Star. The Venator class that we already see in ROTS isn't much smaller. I think impact on the audience is more important than sense. I wouldn't mind seeing both Death Stars being built though.
perhaps vader and palps could be watching a vast imperial star fleet on parade. doesnt necessarily need to be anything under construction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3roDTVzfgrA
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I'd really like to know where they got that shot of Obi and Padme. I'd love to use it in an altered Anakin dream sequence
On the lightsaber issue. I too think that all of the lightsabers in the PT should be blue. BUT, there could be a couple exceptions such as Yoda having a green one or Mace having a purple or green one too. Thus, only the most powerful of Jedi had green lightsabers. (3 in existance)
darthmunky said:On the lightsaber issue. I too think that all of the lightsabers in the PT should be blue. BUT, there could be a couple exceptions such as Yoda having a green one or Mace having a purple or green one too. Thus, only the most powerful of Jedi had green lightsabers. (3 in existance)
I thought it would be cool if Dooku had the only Green lightsaber other than Luke because he "stepped out" of the normal doctrine of the Jedi (but he would not use lghtning or anything and we would not know he was a Sith until later on) then when Luke builds one the audience becomes uneasy about his future.
well the colouring is dependant on the symbolism. i guess there is three options so far, :)
a) colour dependant on rank/power, thus yoda luke and mace
b) colour based on unorthodox practice, ie luke and dooku
c) colour based on old/new orders, PT sabers (I-V) blue, VI green
someone once suggested that only masters ever get green, so i would have been curious to have seen obi wan getting a green saber from II-IV.
has anyone noticed how inconsistent anakins and obiwans blue sabers are? they go from light blue originally to deep blue in CLONE WARS
Qui-Gon, Luke, and Dooku would be interesting as well because it would someone validate the connection between Dooku and Qui-Gon
Octorox said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3roDTVzfgrA
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I'd really like to know where they got that shot of Obi and Padme. I'd love to use it in an altered Anakin dream sequence
I suspected that this sort of thing would turn up in the prequels it was a bit of a surprise that it had not (not necessarily an actual romance between Padme and Obi-Wan but more Anakin becoming so paranoid about losing her that he would leap to that conclusion).
Bingowings said:Octorox said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3roDTVzfgrA
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I'd really like to know where they got that shot of Obi and Padme. I'd love to use it in an altered Anakin dream sequence
I suspected that this sort of thing would turn up in the prequels it was a bit of a surprise that it had not (not necessarily an actual romance between Padme and Obi-Wan but more Anakin becoming so paranoid about losing her that he would leap to that conclusion).
well perhaps we could put it in Anakin's dream and return the scene where Palp plants seeds of mistrust in Padme. Then Palp would be even more like an Iago character.
Octorox said:Bingowings said:Octorox said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3roDTVzfgrA
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I'd really like to know where they got that shot of Obi and Padme. I'd love to use it in an altered Anakin dream sequence
I suspected that this sort of thing would turn up in the prequels it was a bit of a surprise that it had not (not necessarily an actual romance between Padme and Obi-Wan but more Anakin becoming so paranoid about losing her that he would leap to that conclusion).
well perhaps we could put it in Anakin's dream and return the scene where Palp plants seeds of mistrust in Padme. Then Palp would be even more like an Iago character.
It's such a shame that Luke and Leia weren't both blondes, then we could have put in a bit of cross-dressing and got the full Shakespearean set (then Boussh was supposed to be a male wasn't he/she?).
It would also be nice if we got to see the Battle of Coruscant rage on the surface as well as in space like here (not my work by the way) :
The idea of a secret love between Padme and Obi-wan has got to be one of the WORST ideas floated on these boards in a long time. The fact that they didnt do it, an obvious plot development is just another thing that the prequels did right.
That trailer was well edited but NO!
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AxiaEuxine said:The idea of a secret love between Padme and Obi-wan has got to be one of the WORST ideas floated on these boards in a long time. The fact that they didnt do it, an obvious plot development is just another thing that the prequels did right.
That trailer was well edited but NO!
Oh I agree that a real secret love would be naff beyond words but manipulating Anakin into believing that there was one when there wasn't has potential. The idea has been around the block a few times but so has almost every element in the Star Wars story.
It could push Anakin's already paranoid mind further off the edge.
AxiaEuxine said:The idea of a secret love between Padme and Obi-wan has got to be one of the WORST ideas floated on these boards in a long time. The fact that they didnt do it, an obvious plot development is just another thing that the prequels did right.
That trailer was well edited but NO!
I wasn't suggesting a real love. I was suggesting that Palps twists Anakin's mind to make him believe there is. It would explain "You're with him" "You will not take her from me" and other lines when Anakin was not partiularly mad at Padme or Obi throughout the whole rest of the movie.
Or rather than having Vader & Palpy watch over Imperial Star Destroyers, you could make the Death Star look more complete, giving the impression that by the time Episode IV happens it's been complete for a while.
1Shouta said:Or rather than having Vader & Palpy watch over Imperial Star Destroyers, you could make the Death Star look more complete, giving the impression that by the time Episode IV happens it's been complete for a while.
That just makes the problem worse as the Death Star is just about finished in ANH.
That would mean that they almost finished it and then Grand Moff-balled it for nearly a couple of decades.
If Ady goes for the 2 Death Stars in ROTJ idea we could see two being built at once (letting the audience in on the idea of a second Death Star being out there) only to find there were actually three of them, that might be cool.
Building three of them might take over twenty years.
That way you deliberately blow the secret of the theatrical ROTJ only to set the audience up for the new surprise.
Bingowings said:1Shouta said:Or rather than having Vader & Palpy watch over Imperial Star Destroyers, you could make the Death Star look more complete, giving the impression that by the time Episode IV happens it's been complete for a while.
That just makes the problem worse as the Death Star is just about finished in ANH.
That would mean that they almost finished it and then Grand Moff-balled it for nearly a couple of decades.
Then make further changes to Episode IV? I don't know. Yeah, I like the idea of Imperial Star Destroyers now.
"Until this battle station is fully operation, we are vulnerable" and that was days before it's first firing on Alderaan.
Yeah, you got me, I forgot the "we are vulnerable" line!
I guess if the Death Star was all operational exept for its secret beam weapon, it would at last not be "vulnerable", indeed.
TMBTM said:"Until this battle station is fully operation, we are vulnerable" and that was days before it's first firing on Alderaan.
Yeah, you got me, I forgot the "we are vulnerable" line!
I guess if the Death Star was all operational exept for its secret beam weapon, it would at last not be "vulnerable", indeed.
Going by the ROTJ line it's possible that the beam weapon was finished first but Tarkin didn't want to show the universe it's power until the Senate was disbanded and it couldn't open troublesome enquiries. It was odd that a design worked on before the Clone Wars and built and tested over two decades wasn't gone over with a fine toothcomb to nail down that small thermal exhaust port (imagine the conspiracy theories in the Star Wars universe).
A different beginning for C3PO?
Bingowings said:A different beginning for C3PO?
but how would he go from being In the hands of the Federation to Amidala and then the rebels? maybe he could somehow escape with Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan and then somehow replace Jarjar in the scenes that follow? (Wishful thinking I know)
