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The Matrix 35mm

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Yes Yes and most definitely!

So what condition is the film in or do you know?

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The color timing is completely off on the Blu-Ray. This preservation would be preferable to having the Blu-Ray.

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Well, it would have to be purchased, so it would depend a *lot* on how much interest there is.

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If this is a poll, I vote yes.

The Blu-ray has: wrong color timing, juiced up contrast, edge enhancement, questionable resolution, and compression artifacts

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Ouch.

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I will say yes, but I also understand the huuuge work load it would make for you undertaking the preservation of the 35mm. 

It'd be nice to see a few captured frames to compare with the blu-ray and 1999 dvd!

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Considering I have the cinema DTS for it I would LOVE to see this happen if it can.

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The Blu-ray has compression artifacts and the color timing is revisionist. A preservation of a 35 millimeter print would be well worthwhile, in my opinion.

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Well, I'll be damned. I just did a quick side-by-side comparison and the greens in that 35mm footage look a lot closer to the deep greens of the BD than the more yellowish greens of the DVD.

Although neither is exactly right. The reds look much more pronounced in the 35mm; The Oracle's lipstick is bright and vibrant whereas it's much more desaturated in both the BD and DVD.

Would be great to have this as a colour reference if nothing else.

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One more; HDTV (basically: DVD colors) vs 35mm vs BR:

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Turisu said:

Well, I'll be damned. I just did a quick side-by-side comparison and the greens in that 35mm footage look a lot closer to the deep greens of the BD than the more yellowish greens of the DVD.

Although neither is exactly right. The reds look much more pronounced in the 35mm; The Oracle's lipstick is bright and vibrant whereas it's much more desaturated in both the BD and DVD.

Would be great to have this as a colour reference if nothing else.

Unfortunately the colours on that youtube clip don't really tell you anything.

Try this experiment. Run the BD or the DVD through a digital projector, then get a video camera and tape it from the screen. The colours will be nothing like the source image.

 

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poita said:

Unfortunately the colours on that youtube clip don't really tell you anything.

Try this experiment. Run the BD or the DVD through a digital projector, then get a video camera and tape it from the screen. The colours will be nothing like the source image.

 

That's a shame. This thread has now got me thinking; we all know that scenes set inside the matrix were deliberately given a green tint (to varying degrees) on all home media versions of the film, but the first time I ever heard this mentioned was on the original DVD release. Do we know with any certainty whether the green cast to the matrix scenes was present in the theatrical prints or was it just added for DVD?

The original trailer has no green at all in these scenes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPBuOAxOb2E

Check out the brief flash of Neo in Smith's office at 0:16; this scene is yellow on the DVD, green on the BD and entirely neutral here. Is there any chance it was originally that way in theatres? I saw The Matrix on it's original release but I couldn't tell you now whether those scenes were green or not.

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Are the scenes with the agent entering the helicopter pilot green on the DVD/BD?

I worked on that shot and might still have the files so could take a look and see if they match the home releases.

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I read somewhere that the full frame VHS had a different color grading than the DVD. Does someone still have a copy of that somewhere and could possibly check if it's true or not?

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ilovewaterslides said:

I read somewhere that the full frame VHS had a different color grading than the DVD. Does someone still have a copy of that somewhere and could possibly check if it's true or not?

I think I remember something about this too. A bunch of people thinking there was something wrong with their DVD setup due to the green and the VHS looking completely different. This would have been from AV magazines of the time. Would be interesting to have this confirmed.

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That would be odd since someone here said the VHS screener copy he obtained seems to match the original DVD.

I have the "Collector's Edition" full frame VHS; should be able to post some captures tonight.

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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

poita said:

Are the scenes with the agent entering the helicopter pilot green on the DVD/BD?

Here you are; top BD, bottom DVD:

Thanks, I'll dig through the old archives and see if I have the shot. That is the exact scene, thanks!

Can you tell me how many minutes in that scene appears?

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