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The Jedi Council not existing, or being total d*cks?

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I’m a little torn on my rewrite of the prequels. I think Yoda wouldn’t be about that bureaucracy stuff, so he wouldn’t be in the council, and neither would Mace in my rewrite. I want to portray the Jedi Council as a real adversary in TPM but learn their lesson, accept more people in AOTC, but go back to their old way when asking Anakin to spy on Palpatine.

However, I don’t want to make the Jedi out to be corrupt- I want to make the Jedi great and the Council a disgrace to what the Jedi should be, but would that be as close to how they were portrayed in the OT? The OT made it seem like the Jedi weren’t very organized, and it was a person-to-person thing.

What say y’all? I could really go either way. My rewrites tend to try to improve the stories themselves and not make them into totally different movies

No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.

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Perhaps we don’t see the Council much, or at all. We can hear about it and the dictates it hands down and see how various Jedi react.

In some religions there are cloistered orders (like nuns who live in convents and monks who live in monasteries) and there are those who choose to live non-cloistered lives (a nun can live on her own like any other person, except she’s a nun). Yoda could be the head of his [monastery]. And we could see various other Jedi without specifying how they live. The Jedi [pope]/Council could be constitute an adversary, many Jedi feeling compelled to follow what the Council says even if they disagree and we can see the disagreements and see what Jedis rebel.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Mrebo said:

Perhaps we don’t see the Council much, or at all. We can hear about it and the dictates it hands down and see how various Jedi react.

I don’t fee like that would work well in a series

In some religions there are cloistered orders (like nuns who live in convents and monks who live in monasteries) and there are those who choose to live non-cloistered lives (a nun can live on her own like any other person, except she’s a nun). Yoda could be the head of his [monastery]. And we could see various other Jedi without specifying how they live. The Jedi [pope]/Council could be constitute an adversary, many Jedi feeling compelled to follow what the Council says even if they disagree and we can see the disagreements and see what Jedis rebel.

Obi-Wan was trained by Yoda in the OT, and while it technically makes sense, I don’t think that’s what GL meant in the OT

No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.

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For my prequels, I just ended up concluding that the Jedi had long since become far more loosely organized and spread across the galaxy rather than a more tightly knit council around the core systems. They had already descended into myth like status for many as a great deal weren’t really visible warrior monks anymore. There were still Knights of course, but loads of Jedi engineers, farmers, teachers and so forth for their own regions and worlds became far more common. Not only does it allow for sympathetic conflict/disagreement about how deeply non-Jedi knights are to be involved when the war starts, it also demonstrates the greater tragedy of the their destruction by Palpatine; righteous warriors and the backbone of numerous communities wiped out.

Obviously that’s wholly different from the Lucas prequel Jedi concepts, but I think there’s value in moving away from the orthodox council idea

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Whatever role Yoda has in the hierarchy, if any, he can personally train Obi Wan. Obi Wan could have been such a promising student that Yoda took it upon himself to train him.

As for showing the Council, you can make it a centerpiece like in the PT, or something you see once in awhile and maybe see the Jedi council leader more often, who can embody the disgrace of the Council.

If the Jedi are less organized, what is the relation of the Council to the Jedi? Who decided there should be a council and how does it exert influence?

The blue elephant in the room.