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The Golden Voyage of Sinbad laserdisc preservation

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After some research, it seems that there are 2 laserdisc releases for The Golden Voyage of Sinbad -- one by Pioneer and another by RCA/Columbia.  It seems that the Pioneer one is the best.

The Pioneer Special Edition laserdisc has an isolated music track and possibly a stereo mix (whereas the DVD only has mono).

( Catalog Number PSE91-20 ) (1.33:1) (3 Sides) (CLV+CAV) (CC) (NTSC)

It would be nice to have this preserved as the later Columbia DVD releases also have some digital editing.

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Does anyone have the limited edition Twilight Time Blu-ray release of The Golden Voyage of Sinbad?  Is the new 5.1 channel audio strong compared to the original mono?  If anyone has any information regarding the laserdisc audio or opinions on the quality of the official release, please include your thoughts regarding this Ray Harryhausen classic.  Thanks in advance.

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I have the TT Blu Ray, and the sound mix was pretty good for vintage material. (I don't have the LD to compare though.) Whoever is doing the remixes is respecting the material, and the isolated score track is icing on the cake.

Where were you in '77?

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Thanks, SilverWook.  I'm kicking myself for missing that BD upon its initial release.  I wish TT would produce a larger run for these hard to find titles.  The price goes through the roof once they're gone.  This is my favorite Sinbad movie and Caroline Munro in her prime was maybe the hottest woman ever.  Awesome monsters in this flick, too.

http://i61.tinypic.com/29fv6ad.jpg

gotta love her... check out Starcrash also!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nr4J8osMdM

big thanks to those guys for putting the YT vid together... some of Caroline's best moments on film.  What a goddess.

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Actually that scene is not censored, it is an alternate different take.

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barhar said:

Actually that scene is not censored, it is an alternate different take.

Are you sure about this?  I have never came across this bit before.  I have detailed books on Harryhausen and conversations with an expert, which none  revealed the alternative shot.  It'll be great if you can provide more info about this.

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The first pic is from the full screen dvd, the second from a german satelite TV recording. Note the different positions of the boat.

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Wow. Wish I had one of the LD releases to check for this.

Where were you in '77?

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Turner Classic Movies just broadcast the film not long ago as a double feature with Eye of the Tiger.  I wonder if they have an older master, which is usually the case with TCM.  That scene is probably intact in its original form.  I didn't dvr it though so I can't check to compare theirs against the other releases.  Generally speaking, the image on TCM HD did look damn good.

http://i61.tinypic.com/ekffqu.jpg

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barhar said:

The first pic is from the full screen dvd, the second from a german satelite TV recording. Note the different positions of the boat.

Thanks a lot for providing the screenshots!  This is quite interesting.  I'll see if I can find out more about this.

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I sent the following privately to barhar, but never heard back.  Now I am opening it up to a wider audience.

I communicated with Ernest Farino, the publisher of Ray Harryhausen: Master of Majicks books (http://archive-editions.com/), who had a 16mm of the film at one point.  He said that the DVD is the original take, not the German satellite TV.  He also believed that the "reveal" occurs in the original take.  I am not so sure even from looking at the recent BD release.

Ernest Farino wrote, "The comment on the IMDb is incorrect-- the hair falling down is her real hair. At the time that Sinbad is carrying her, her hair has been swept up around her neck by the wind. When he sets her down and she stands and straightens up, that strand of hair simply falls down over her chest in a normal fashion. There's no digital enhancement. The hair happens to fall right over her breast, so it's easy to assume that it's a digital "add on" for coverup purposes. But it's not. The hair falling down is exactly how it was in the 16mm print I owned back in the late 1970s."

Anyway, he is busy trying to publish the 2nd edition of the Majicks set and is unable to research this further.  Is there anyway to obtain a copy of the German satellite TV version?  I am curious if there are other differences.  I will follow up Ernest afterwards.

Thanks.

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I own the japanese laserdisc from RCA/Columbia, which is identical to the DVD version.

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Is anyone able to provide the german TV version. I’m really interested in doing a comparison to see if there are other differences.

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Been meaning to pick up the new 2CD release. Thanks for reminding me with the link.

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It seems like Sky Cinema Nostalgie of Germany will be broadcasting Sindbads gefährliche Abenteuer (the German version of The Golden Voyage of Sinbad) Monday, September 11th at 14:20 - 16:05:
https://www.tvdigital.de/tv-sendung/sindbads-gefaehrliche-abenteuer/

Are there any German members out there that might be able to record this?

I’m hoping it’ll have the alternative angle pointed out by barhar earlier.

barhar said:

The first pic is from the full screen dvd, the second from a german satelite TV recording. Note the different positions of the boat.

Golden dvdGolden tv

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