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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD — Page 2

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Originally posted by: Hurin
Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
Originally posted by: Hurin
Uh, "fixed" is a subjective term in this case. The "fixed" one looks pretty darn fake to me. I like DE's version.

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Really? What about it looks fake?


Well, it would help us to have a meaningful discussion if you didn't keep changing it!


No need to get all upset.
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No need to get all upset.


Who's upset? But there is something inherently dishonest about posting an image, and then quietly changing it when it is criticized and then asking the critic to explain what is wrong with an image that he in fact never criticized (since it's now different). Why not just say: "Oh, here's another one. Is this better?" and be honest about it?

I only posted because your first attempt looked pretty bad (sorry) and I considered it to be in pretty poor taste to post your "fixed" version here in DE's thread when DE's in fact looks better (and entails a lot more than Photoshopping one frame).

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It might also be worth noting that in general I tended to aim for the minimal fix - in this case, applying a hue layer, rather than repainting all the sabres. The sabre blade is not well aligned to the hilt in this scene, as Mark Hamill didn't have a prop blade - this is the sort of thing they really should have fixed for the Special Edition, let alone the DVD. But I guess it isn't as notable as Jawas falling off a Ronto

(and entails a lot more than Photoshopping one frame).


To be fair I did make myself some actions so each frame only took about two seconds

DE
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend

Fixed:
http://home.comcast.net/~glgrimm1/falconsaber2.JPG



I am assuming that this is the DVD Special features, Videogames & still galleries, lightsaber that Van Ling "created" on the menu???

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Originally posted by: Hurin

I only posted because your first attempt looked pretty bad (sorry) and I considered it to be in pretty poor taste to post your "fixed" version here in DE's thread when DE's in fact looks better (and entails a lot more than Photoshopping one frame).


Who says I didn't photoshop (rotoscope) the whole scene?

And no, it isn't from whatever that was you said it was. I took the core from hi-res photos from ROTS and then added the glow to it.

In no way was I attempting to say that DE's version was bad. He said that he didn't go to the trouble of working on it more than a quick fix and that it still didn't match another scene.

Give me a break with the dishonest stuff. The original image uploaded was the wrong image, and more than likely your browser hadn't refreshed the image since I fixed it.
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Who says I didn't photoshop (rotoscope) the whole scene?
Me. Considering it's the same frame as DE's. But why don't you just tell us. . . Did you rotoscope the whole scene?!?

And no, it isn't from whatever that was you said it was. I took the core from hi-res photos from ROTS and then added the glow to it.

That wasn't me.

Give me a break with the dishonest stuff. The original image uploaded was the wrong image, and more than likely your browser hadn't refreshed the image since I fixed it.
Possibly. But I doubt it. . .
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Originally posted by: Hurin
Who says I didn't photoshop (rotoscope) the whole scene?

Me. Considering it's the same frame as DE's. But why don't you just tell us. . . Did you rotoscope the whole scene?!?


Yes. But here is my problem. I've got the whole thing rotoscopped in Photoshoppe. Now I just need to figure out how to change the PSD to a FLM or filmstripe file (back to what it was) or how to convert it, ya dig?
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Yes. But here is my problem. I've got the whole thing rotoscopped in Photoshoppe. Now I just need to figure out how to change the PSD to a FLM or filmstripe file (back to what it was) or how to convert it, ya dig?


I can tell you how to make it into an AVI, which you can probably do more with than a PSD:

Save each frame out of Photoshop as a Targa in a numbered sequence, starting at 000.tga. Then use VirtualDub - drag the 000.tga image on to a VirtualDub window and it will load the whole sequence. You can then save that out as an AVI.

VirtualDub was an invaluable tool to me while I made my edit.

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Originally posted by: Darth Editous
Yes. But here is my problem. I've got the whole thing rotoscopped in Photoshoppe. Now I just need to figure out how to change the PSD to a FLM or filmstripe file (back to what it was) or how to convert it, ya dig?


I can tell you how to make it into an AVI, which you can probably do more with than a PSD:

Save each frame out of Photoshop as a Targa in a numbered sequence, starting at 000.tga. Then use VirtualDub - drag the 000.tga image on to a VirtualDub window and it will load the whole sequence. You can then save that out as an AVI.

VirtualDub was an invaluable tool to me while I made my edit.

DE


I may have to do that if I can't find a way to just convert the PSD file to a FLM stripe file. I use Adobe Premiere and it allows you to save the sequence as a filmstrip. I then, foolishly, took the filmstrip and converted it into a PSD file. I think this may be where my problem is.
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Originally posted by: dugpa
Awesome work! Can you post the shot of the fixed Green Saber?

I've posted this on DE's behalf in NTSC format. He created the shot in NTSC for my project as well.

DE, feel free to copy these links into the relevant parts of your original post if you like. It may make it easy for future readers of this thread.

  • M2V file of the entire saber shot, ready to splice in with any GOP editor
  • Fixed Title Card

    Edit: Screw what I said earlier. If you simply edit this between when Episode IV is completely on screen, but before any of A NEW HOPE appears on screen, then it's a great looking edit. Don't know how this option escaped me earlier but it did. I just tried it and it looks superior.

    To the point I'm redoing my disc before circulating it.
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    Originally posted by: agr1170
    If someone could get Rikter or Metallaxis a copy maybe they could post on MYSPLEEN.NET as a torrent for download.

    Of if I had a copy I would be more than glad to make copies for whoever wanted it.


    Well, I will for sure get a copy of this! I haven't made my order yet, cause I was caught off-guard with this, but after Darth Editous sends his first round I will order it too.
    Things at myspleen are a little tight right now (look at the comments I received for uploading Moth3r's project!), and I think posting the particular edit would push it too far.
    Maybe a trackerless torrent could resolve this, but the trackerless feature is very new and I haven't tested it yet.
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    Thanks in advance for the copy, Editous!

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    Originally posted by: ADigitalMan

    Edit: Screw what I said earlier. If you simply edit this between when Episode IV is completely on screen, but before any of A NEW HOPE appears on screen, then it's a great looking edit. Don't know how this option escaped me earlier but it did. I just tried it and it looks superior.

    To the point I'm redoing my disc before circulating it.


    Hey, would you be interested in the old school Lucasfilm and A Long Time Ago title cards as M2Vs?
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    Edit: Screw what I said earlier. If you simply edit this between when Episode IV is completely on screen, but before any of A NEW HOPE appears on screen, then it's a great looking edit. Don't know how this option escaped me earlier but it did. I just tried it and it looks superior.


    I can't see anything wrong on the disc you sent me, which I assume was your first edit.

    I just watched the new Jabba's palace bit - wow! Where did you get the audio from?

    DE
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    Originally posted by: Metallaxis
    Originally posted by: agr1170
    If someone could get Rikter or Metallaxis a copy maybe they could post on MYSPLEEN.NET as a torrent for download.

    Of if I had a copy I would be more than glad to make copies for whoever wanted it.


    Well, I will for sure get a copy of this! I haven't made my order yet, cause I was caught off-guard with this, but after Darth Editous sends his first round I will order it too.
    Things at myspleen are a little tight right now (look at the comments I received for uploading Moth3r's project!), and I think posting the particular edit would push it too far.
    Maybe a trackerless torrent could resolve this, but the trackerless feature is very new and I haven't tested it yet.


    I don't know why some people are saying anything about the Moth3r Transfer on MYSPLEEN.Net, there are several Laserdisc transfers on there and have been there for a while.

    Like I said in the comments, I would be more concerned with things on there that are still airing on TV than I would with something OUT OF PRINT.

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    Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend


    Hey, would you be interested in the old school Lucasfilm and A Long Time Ago title cards as M2Vs?


    Sounds worthy for sure. What's the source? They probably should be posted in the "de-SE" thread. I'm sure a lot of people could use them.
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    The title cards are made from scratch. It's simple to do using a photoshop image and a correctly timed fades in and out.
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    StarWarslegacy.com takes a good look at good restoration.
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    The title cards are made from scratch. It's simple to do using a photoshop image and a correctly timed fades in and out.


    How has the Long Time Ago bit changed? That is to say, what changed from the OT to the SE/DVD that needs it to be recreated?

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    Originally posted by: Darth Editous
    The title cards are made from scratch. It's simple to do using a photoshop image and a correctly timed fades in and out.


    How has the Long Time Ago bit changed? That is to say, what changed from the OT to the SE/DVD that needs it to be recreated?

    DE


    The letters are much thinner now, to match the PT. If you go to Mike's website, he shows what alot of us noticed, that the font isn't exactly the way it used to be.

    As for the title cards, I had the m2v made up on my other HDD, but it's a simple enough thing, I could do it up again.
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    The letters are much thinner now, to match the PT. If you go to Mike's website, he shows what alot of us noticed, that the font isn't exactly the way it used to be.


    Oh yeah...

    Having had another quick look at Mike's site, it seems odd to me that he was attentive enough to redo the A Long Time ago back to the original, but was quite happy to use a foreign language angle for the STAR WARS recede. I say that because the foreign language ones aren't the same as the original. The original has a pronounced curve to the top of the ST, and other differences, whereas the foreign language ones look more digital. That's why I re-interpolated a new sequence based on the too-quick DVD one.

    I'll post a screenshot later tonight to explain what I mean.

    DE
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    Originally posted by: Darth Editous
    Because I'm in the UK, it gets pretty expensive to send discs out. I've included PayPal details for anyone who wants to reimburse me (postage and materials only of course), but it would be a cheaper option for everyone if some of my first US recipients could share it with other members. Would any of you (who've already sent me your address) be willing and able to do that?

    I look forward to receiving your edit, DE, and as I now have DVD copying technology of my own (I was previously relying on a couple of friends), I would be happy to join the cause and help out with US distribution. I should be getting my copy in the next couple of days, so PM me if you're interested.

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    I know what you mean DE. I don't think he noticed it, that's all.

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    While you're all waiting for your copies of ANH, I've just watched ESB - the first time I've watched the 2004 DVD.

    I thought it was going to take a lot less fixing than ANH, but my list is almost 60 items long!

    One thing I noticed is a few specific out of sync sound effects. There's Yoda knocking shut R2's door with his cane, Leia trying to twist the lever back in the Falcon right before Han kisses her, and Han's carbonite block hitting the deck. Can anyone else notice them?

    Does anyone have any pet peeves with ESB they think I should consider?

    DE