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The Avenger Initiative (* unfinished project - a host of info & ideas*)

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I’ve been mulling on this for a few weeks in the heading to the release of Thor.  I’m absolutely fascinated by the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and how Marvel has tied its movies together in the lead up to the Avengers.

One thing that has struck me, however, is that the timeline for the movies isn’t as simple as Iron Man comes first, followed by The Incredible Hulk, etc.  The timelines in the movies seem to overlap, such as Nick Fury and Agent Couslon making reference to something happening in New Mexico in Iron Man 2.  This is obviously in reference to Thor, and it is happening at the same time as Iron Man 2.  The same can be said about the news report about Hulk seen at the end of Iron Man 2.

My thinking is if all of these event take place at the same time, especially with characters such as Coulson and Fury crossing over, why can’t it all be one, in this case multi-part, epic movie that carries all of the events leading to when the Avengers will finally assemble?

What I’m going to try and do is meld the scenes of the movies together in as best chronological order as possible, but still allowing the storylines to make sense.  The story would, essentially, bounce between characters similar to how LOTR was filmed.  Hopefully… 😃

I have found a link that tries to put events in order, and I think that it will be a good starting point.  <span style=“border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal;”>http://www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/2011/05/02/a-marvel-cinematic-universe-timeline/</span>

I’m open to suggestions, and look forward to any feedback.  Thanks guys.

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I didn't realize a post like that was out there.  I tried searching to see if any edits like this existed a few weeks again, and didn't see any.  Of course, this one was only created in April.

This could definitely be another good reference point.  From what I could tell, in reading it from my phone, I think there is only one person on there that is planning to do an actual edit, and that one is going to be SD.

I have a Blu Ray drive, so I will be able to use that as my source.  I'm also a sucker for extended and deleted scenes.  I've noticed with Marvel that a lot of scenes expanding character development get left on the cutting room floor, especially with The Incredible Hulk (TIH).  So, I plan to add as many deleted and extended scenes as I can that will still make sense and not completely blow out the pacing of the moment.

I originally planned to incorporate Ang Lee's 'Hulk', but upon another viewing of the movie and some discussion with my brother, I've decided to leave 'Hulk' out of the edit.  This will now be a "Marvel only" affair.

I'll post a draft of a timeline as soon as I get a chance.

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How about going all out and trying to make a cable TV-style series?

This thread made me think of the Marvel 24 fanedit that went around a couple of years ago that connected FF2, Spiderman3, X3, and hulk in the style of the tv show 24.

After Captain America comes out, we'll have at least 10hours of Marvel Comics movies. It could be possible to make a 13 episode TV series as a countdown to the Avengers.  It could even use a 24 style clock, but a COUNTDOWN CLOCK instead. 

The real challenge would be making sure there would be some climax in each episode. Like an A plot from one film and maybe some contrasting story from another film as a B plot. 

Some of the deleted scenes from TIH can probably be sprinkled throughout IM. Of course, things will get pretty thick when IM2, Thor, and TIH are all happening at the same time. 

I'm not sure how to introduce Asgard, because it would be nice to show Odin's story to young Thor and Loki BEFORE we get to the New Mexico reference in IM2.

POSSIBLE THOR SPOILER!!!

Depending on how CA turns out, it may be possible to flash back to CA from the super-soldier serum in TIH and the cosmic cube in thor.

END POSSIBLE SPOILER!

So what do you think?

Possible?  or just WAY too much trouble?

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Wow, for some reason, I became very excited while I was reading your post.  I love the idea.  If it was broken up into episodes, I think it would be easier to bring up key plot points with a simple 'Previously on the The Avengers...' or something like along those lines.

With that being said, enthusiasm and excitement only go so far.  I think I might need some serious help in trying to decide what goes where, and the timeline might have to be fudged a little.  I've never seen 24, so I can't comment on the style of how it is edited.  I don't think I would be too crazy about a countdown, though.  (Once Iron Man 3 and other sequels come along, what would you count to?)

I'm working on finishing up another project, and I should be finished in a couple of weeks.  Hopefully I can start trying to dice these movies up and get an idea of where to go with this thing.

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I was thinking of giving the show a title like Marvel Universe Countdown.

The counter (with days:hours:minutes:sec) would help to showcase the passing of time between episodes or even events within an episode. I was also hoping (figuring) that CA will have a post credit bit that says something about it being time for the Avengers to Assemble.  That would be when the counter hits zero.  We'll have to wait until July to see if THAT works tho.

If you get a chance, check out the first season of 24 just to see the editing style.  It would work because events are "happening in real time" so they overlap and you can see moments of differnt things on the screen at the same time.

The only thing that came to mind so far was starting with the cut TIH opening some kind of opening title card and then starting with the Tony award in Vegas from IM.

What do you think?

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Planning is key.  Start by sitting thru IM, IM2 and TIH and working out the timing issues - when things happen, how long they take and where events overlap and reference the other films.

Lay them out in a spreadsheet with each film on a different row in a different color, with the columns breaking up individual scenes and sequences.  That will allow you to shift things around and adjust how the elements need to align and interact.  The more of these problems you can solve "on paper", the easier the real edit will go later.

My outlook on life - we’re all on the Hindenburg anyway…no point fighting over the window seat.

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This one's gonna be rather long.  I found a copy of a timeline that I think has been exceptionally done.  The original can be found at

http://www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/2011/05/02/a-marvel-cinematic-universe-timeline/

It was recently updated with Thor, and I expect that it will be updated with Captain America when it is released.  I plan on using this as my base and following it as strictly as possible.  I'm still not sold on using a 24-style countdown, and will most likely give dates where necessary, such as 965 A.D in Thor and the year that CA takes place.  Present day event will get tags along the lines of "6 month ago" or "6 months later" in order to keep the movie more relevant to the passing of time in the real world.  I personally hate watching a movie that "takes place in the future" and then proceeds to tell me that it is 1997...

*****Warning - This contains spoilers to Thor.   From what I can tell, everything about Captain America has been gleaned from the trailers and general knowledge about the characters origins.*****

965 AD – The frost giants of Jotunheim attempt to conquer Midgard/Earth. Their invasion point in Norway becomes the site of an epic battle as Asgard’s ruler Odin leads an army to repeal the invasion and protect the planet. Odin and his force push the frost giants back to Jotunheim where the AllFather discovers an abandoned frost giant infant whom he adopts, names Loki and raises as his own alongside his own son Thor. A truce is negotiated between Odin and the frost giant king Laufey.

1939 – 1945 – World War Two

Young, budding industrialist Howard Stark launches Stark Industries producing planes for war effort following attack on Pearl Harbor. His innovations later earn him a spot working on the Manhattan Project. (IMN, IM2) Stark was also involved with Super Soldier Program. Was his working on Manhattan Project a cover story for his work on Super Soldier Program? (IM, IM2P, CAP)

Dr. Abraham Erskine, working under the code name of “Dr. Reinstein” develops Super Soldier Serum as part of the Weapons Plus program. (IH 0:44:33. Although the Super Soldier Serum seen inIncredible Hulk is credited to a Dr. Reinstein, Stanley Tucci has been cast as Erskine in Captain America. The codename retcon is a solution similar to one found in the comics to reconcile two different names that have been given to the Super Soldier Serum developer over the decades.)

Steve Rogers is recruited into the Weapons Plus program. Injected with the Super Soldier Serum, he becomes Captain America and helps fight the Nazis alongside members of the Howling Commandos.

At some point Howard Stark helps to found SHIELD. (IM2) Would this have stemmed from his work on Manhattan Project/ Super Soldier program? Is SHIELD an outgrowth of Super Soldier Program or a separate entity?

1954 – Stark World Exposition

1963 – Anton Vanko defects to the US and begins work with Howard Stark in developing ARC Reactor technology.

1964 – Stark Expo held in conjunction with the World’s Fair at Flushing Meadows, Queens, NY

1967 – Stark has Anton Vanko deported as a spy. Vanko returns to Soviet Union but is sent to exile in Siberia for two decades. Presumably he is able to return to Moscow following Premier Gorbachev’s call for democratization in January 1987.

1969

December 18 – Bruce Banner born  (IH 0:02:02)

1971

May 10 – Tony Stark born (The Iron Mannovelization states that Tony Stark was born in 1973, but in order for young Tony to be the age we briefly see him in Iron Man 2 and to still not be old enough to assume of Stark Industries when Howard Stark dies in 1991, I have moved his birth year to here.)

1974 – Last Stark Expo until 2010. Howard Stark hides secret to perfecting ARC reactor in layout of the Expo for Tony to find.  (IM2)

1975 – Tony Stark Builds his first circuit board.

1977 – Tony Stark builds his first engine.

1988 – Tony Stark graduates MIT at age 17 at top of class (IM)

1988 – 1991 -Bruce Banner meets Betty Ross while undergrads at Harvard. They begin dating and at one point volunteer for an experiment involving hallucinogenics.

1991

December 16 – Howard and Maria Stark die in car accident on Long Island. (IM)

Speculation – Was Howard Stark’s death orchestrated/ordered by Obadiah Stane in order to gain control of Stark Industries?

1992 – Tony Stark inherits Stark Industries becoming, at age 21, the youngest CEO of a Fortune 500 company. (IM) In addition to the company’s numerous military contracts, Stark Industries also does pioneering work in medical technology and in combating world hunger with their Intelli-Crops program. In the process he becomes somewhat of a media celebrity.

2002 – 2006 – In the wake of 9/11 attacks (Speculation), General Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross convinces military to revive the BioForce Enhancement Project, aka the “Super Soldier” program, as a subprogram of the Infantry Weapons Development Program. (IH 0:32:15, 0:32:36)

Dr. Bruce Banner joins the group at Culver University in Willowdale, VA in southwestern Virginia working on way to strengthen cellular resistance to radiation, possibly at insistence of girlfriend Dr. Elizabeth “Betty” Ross, daughter of General Ross.

Ross lies to the scientists on the project, informing them that their work will help protect soldiers from depleted uranium. (IHD)

2006

Unspecified Thursday in January – Under the threat of funding cuts, Banner volunteers to test process on himself resulting in the accident that turns him into Hulk. (IH, 0:02:04, partially obscured Washington Times newspaper dateline reading “Friday  (Obstructed) 2006”; see also below February 7)

Gamma pulse combined with serum that Betty was developing triggers mutation. Later, gamma pulses somehow stored in Banner’s brain’s amigdala and released during high stress moments will trigger mutation.

Betty is injured and hospitalized. Ross admits to Banner that project is being developed as weapon, not just defense. Banner goes on the run. In the wake of the accident, the military closes the entire lab building for a year and shuts down the entire Bio Tech Force Enhancement project. General Ross secretly holds onto some material, Dr. Betty Ross also secretly holds onto project data, remaining at Culver University as a professor of cellular biology. Betty also ceases speaking with her father (IH 0:44:00), angry at his treatment of Banner.

February 7 – Banner tries to contact Betty one last time, but the email is intercepted by the military. She never receives it. (IH 0:02:41)

At some point during his run from the military, Banner travels through the Dakotas (IH 0:02:06), possibly on his way towards the arctic.

May 27-28 – Banner spotted via satellite recon photo in Canada (IH 0:02:10) and Hulk sighted by locals who mistake him for a “green Sasquatch.” (IH 0:02:27)

The military looses Banner, who eventually arrives in the Arctic Circle to commit suicide in a place where his body would not be found. The attempt fails and Banner/Hulk dislodges frozen body of Steve Rogers/Captain America in suspended animation (IHD)

October 21 – Last sighting of Banner for at least five months (IH 0:02:54, I’m placing Banner’s suicide attempt before this date, or even possibly at this date, as I’m sure that the Hulk’s rampage in the Arctic would have been detected by satellite.)

2007 – 2010

At some point, the Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistic Division (SHIELD) is brought in to help Ross and his task force recover Banner. Ross requisitions some high tech weaponry he knows will be required to bring Banner/Hulk down. (IH 0:02:35) Stark Industries sells them Jeep-mounted sonic cannons. (IH 0:02:36) (Is the sonic cannon an off-shoot of the same technology behind the sonic weapon used by Stane to paralyze his Ten Rings collaborators?)

Banner wanders the world avoiding population centers, eventually heading to South America.

2009

May – Following the successful demonstration of the new Jericho missile weapons system outside of Kabul, Afghanistan, the military convoy escorting Stark is attacked by the Ten Rings terrorist group under the leadership of Raza, who were working at least in part on the part of Obadiah Stane. Stark is wounded by Stark Industries-manufactured weapons and is captured.

During his three months of capture, Stark is forced to build version of Jericho for the Ten Rings terrorist group. He instead builds an armored, exo-skeleton battle suit (Iron Man armor, MK I) and uses it to escape. Following his being found by the US military, Stark is taken to Germany where he is checked out by Army doctors and then subjected to debriefings from the CIA, NSA and others.

Late August – Upon his return to the US, Stark buys cheeseburgers and then pulls Stark International out of the weapons business, terminating all contracts with the military. SI stock prices tumble nearly 60 percent. Hammer Industries maneuvers itself to pick up many new contracts.

September – Stark continues to develop a more refined version of the armor he used to escape from the Ten Rings. Stane uses Stark’s change of heart concerning what business he is in as leverage for a takeover attempt. Besides boardroom maneuvering, Stane develops his own high tech battle armor using the remains of the MK I armor recovered by his Ten Rings confederates.

October 21 – Stark tests his Mk III armor by driving Raza’s Ten Rings group out of the Afghan village of Gulmira.

October 23 – Under Stark’s direction, Pepper Potts uncovers proof of Stane’s collaboration with the Ten Rings. Stane and Stark eventually come to blows in their respective armors. Stane is killed. The conflict is seen by the public and the press name the mysterious hero “Iron Man.”

At a press conference the day following his showdown with Stane, Stark rejects SHIELD’s constructed alibi for the events of the previous evening and admits to the world that he is Iron Man. That evening, SHIELD director Nick Fury approaches Stark about a project called the “Avengers Initiative.” Stark declines, Fury calls in Black Widow (IM, IMC2).

Anton Vanko dies in poverty in Moscow. His son Ivan vows revenge on Stark. He begins building his own portable ARC reactor to power an energized whip/body harness.

October 24 – Unspecified Hulk incident. (See April 1, 2010) Soon after, Banner heads into the Rio De Janeiro favela known as Rocinha, to find a way to clandestinely contact Dr. Samuel Sterns, professor in Cellular Biology Department at NYC’s Grayburn College (IH 1:09:11) on the Upper East Side, for help in developing a cure. They communicate using codenames of “Mr. Blue” and “Mr. Green.” Sterns is noted for his work with trimethadiones, used in the treatment of epileptic conditions. (IHD)

Acting on a suggestion from Mr. Blue/Sterns, Banner starts to research AmazoniaTracheophytes (plants that have lignified tissues for conducting water, minerals, and photosynthetic products through the plant) for a lead on a cure. – (IH 0:02:16, IHD )

Banner also studies calming techniques at a nearby temple, gets a job at a soda bottling plant as a handyman and begins teaching himself Portuguese.

December 16– Iron Man named Time magazine’s Person Of The Year, narrowly beating out Ben Bernanke, chairman of the Federal Reserve. (IM2, In real life, Bernanke was named PotY in Time’s December 16th issue.)

2010

As Tony Stark continues to operate as Iron Man, he manages to bring about a period of relative peace and is credited by some press as having stabilized East-West relations. Stark realizes that the Paladium core of Stark’s ARC reactor is slowly poisoning him. He begins searching for a cure but keeps his condition a secret.  (IM2)

April 1 – 158 Days since last “incident” – Banner has accident that leaves drop of blood in soda.  (IH 0:32:12) Also, he  sends sample of blood to Sterns who will conduct further experiments with it outside of the analysis that Banner needs.

April 25 – Stark Expo 2010 opens with plans to run for one year. (IM2, “Six Months Later”)

April 26 – Stark appears before the Senate Armed Services Committee’s Weaponized Suit Defense Program Hearings chaired by Pennsylvania Senator Stern. Stern pushes Stark to turn the Iron Man suit and technology over to the military but Stark refuses. Stern calls Justin Hammer, CEO of Hammer Industries and Lt. Rhodes to testify against Stark. Stark testifies that although other countries, including North Korea and Iran are working to replicate the technology, they are years away from being able to do so. He also reveals that Hammer Industries have also had their share of lack-of-success, leading to the cancellation of Hammer Industries’ contacts with the Department of Defense. (IM2)

April 27 – Stark appoints Potts Chairman and CEO of Stark Industries. (IM2 0:20:44, Stark Expo website displaying “362 Days Left” to attend Expo) An agent of the Ten Rings supplies Vanko assistance in infiltrating the Monaco Grand Prix.

April 29 – Stark signs paperwork to transfer power to Potts, meets “Natalie Rushman” unaware that she is SHIELD agent Natasha Romanoff. Stark hires her as his new personal assistant.

May 2 – Stark arrives at the Historic Grand Prix of Monaco and in a moment of spontaneity quips “What’s the point of having a car if you don’t drive it,” and replaces Team Stark’s regular driver DiFilipo in Race G. Ivan Vanko attacks Stark along the section of the Circuit de Monaco between turns 16 and 17 along the harbor. Switching into a portable, lightweight Iron Man armor (Mark V), Stark defeats Vanko.

Later that evening, Stark visits Vanko in prison before flying back to US with Potts.

Meanwhile, General Ross’s task force raids Rochina favela is search of Banner under the field command of Emil Blonski. Banner transforms into Hulk, defeats the raiding party and escapes. (IH 0:29:02 Days with out incidence counter moves from 190 days backwards.)

May 3 – Senator Stern appears on several news channels to spin support for the military seizing the Iron Man armor technology.

May 4 –Banner wakes up in Guatemala. Over the next 17 days, he will make his way through Chiapas, Mexico to Willowdale, VA and Culver University to see if any data still remains from his original experiment.

May 5 – Hammer orchestrates Vanko’s escape from prison to have him work on Hammer Industries own weapons suit program.

May 6 – Media speculation continues about Stark’s fitness to continue as Iron Man. Rhodes tries to convince Stark to hand over the Iron Man technology to the US military, but Stark continues to refuse.

May 7 – Hammer and Vanko arrive at the Hammer Industries facility in Queens, NY. Vanko begins revamping Hammer’s own battle suit prototypes into unmanned, remote-controlled drones.

May 10 – Tony Stark’s Birthday. Depressed over his inability to solve his palladium poisoning dilemma, he gets drunk which leads to a confrontation with Rhodes, who dons the Mark II Iron Man armor. The ensuing fight wrecks a portion of Stark’s Malibu home. Rhodes leaves with the Mk II suit. (IM2N pg 136 places the night of Stark’s party three days after Vanko’s arrival at Hammer’s Queens facility.)

May 11 – Rhodes delivers the Mk II suit to the military at Andrews Air Force Base. Stark goes for donuts and has a conversation with SHIELD director Nick Fury. Fury mentions a situation in the southwest but confines Stark to house arrest.

At Hammer Industries, Vanko continues revamping the battle suits in to unmanned, remote-controlled drones.

May 13 – The Mk II suit is turned over to Justin Hammer for weapons upgrading on the order of General Meade, though not before Rhodes secretly removes the suit’s ARC reactor.

May 14 – Evening. Physicist Jane Foster, working in the small town of Punete Antiguo, New Mexico, detects a possible Einstein-Rosen Bridge (wormhole) in the nearby desert. Racing to the site with her mentor Dr. Selvig and her assistant Darcy, they discover Thor, having been stripped of his powers and cast out of Asgard by his father Odin for nearly provoking a war with the frost giants of Jotunheim. Thor is tasered by Darcy and taken to a local hospital.

May 15 – Tony visits Potts at Stark Industries, makes intuitive breakthrough on how to fix his palladium/ARC reactor problem through the creation of a new element theorized by his father and hidden in the layout of Stark Expo. Stark builds a small cyclotron to create the element.

A Punete Antiguo, New Mexico local discovers Thor’s hammer, Mjolnir, in a crater about 50 miles east of town. Unable to lift it, he calls several other people to give it a try.

The arrival of the Mjolnir is also noticed by SHIELD. Nick Fury reassigns Agent Coulson from his detail with Tony Stark to investigate. Coulson leaves that afternoon from California for New Mexico.

May 16 – Hammer’s Stark Expo presentation is hijacked by Vanko, who uses drones to attack crowd and Stark. After receiving a call from Vanko, Stark skips over tests on new ARC reactor element in order to race across country and stop Vanko. Stark/Iron Man defeat Vanko’s drones with help from Rhodes in modified Mk II armor, SHIELD Agent Romanoff and Stark’s driver Happy Hogan. Vanko apparently killed in explosion that destroys the Oracle Pavilion. Hammer is arrested for his part in engineering Vanko’s escape.

Coulson arrives in New Mexico and discovers the site of Thor’s fallen hammer, Mjolnir. SHIELD quickly quarantines the area and erects a portable laboratory over the site to study the hammer. Agent Clint Barton is one of the agents assigned to the operation.

May 17 – Jane helps Thor escape from the hospital where he is being held. That evening they head towards the site of the SHIELD installation erected around Mjolnir. Thor is captured trying to sneak in.

May 18 – Loki appears before Thor being held at the SHIELD installation and lies to him that Odin is dead. In the evening, Dr. Selvig goes to the installation and manages to get Coulson to release Thor into his custody. Later in the evening, Thor explains the concept of the Nine Worlds to Jane.

May 19 –The Warriors Three and Sif head to Midgard to find Thor. Loki sends the Destroyer after them. Thor and his fellow Asgardians fight the Destroyer. During the battle, Thor proves himself worthy of his godly heritage and his powers are restored, allowing him to turn back the Destroyer. Thor, Sif and the Warriors Three head back to Asgard where Thor reveals Loki’s plan to seize the throne of Asgard. Unfortunately, in the ensuing battle between the two, Thor is forced to destroy the Bifrost to prevent Loki from destroying Jotunheim and committing genocide against the frost giants. This action strands him in Asgard, unable to return to Midgard/Earth.

Banner arrives at Culver University and spies Betty. He goes to old friend and pizzeria owner Stanley to hide out. He offers him the Pizza Shop’s upstairs spare bedroom. (IH 0:34:25)

May 20 –Banner poses as a pizza delivery man to get access to Culver University’s computer labs and research database. He decides to leave that evening but as he prepares to leave Stanley’s he is accidentally seen by Betty. She has him stay the night at the home she shares with new lover Dr. Leonard Sampson. Sampson informs the military of Banner’s whereabouts. Meanwhile, Blonski receives an unauthorized “low dose” injection of Super Soldier Serum from General Ross.

May 21 – At Culver University, Betty walks Banner to bus station in the early morning. As they are crossing the campus, they are attacked by the military and Betty becomes aware of the true extent of Banner’s condition. Blonski seems to adapt well to Super Soldier upgrade, but still gets beaten by transformed Banner, getting nearly every bone in his body pulverized. Banner/Hulk escapes the military with an unconscious Betty to a cave deep in the Smokey Mountains.

News of the battle can not be contained and quickly spreads across cable news channels and the internet. Culver U. journalism student and campus newspaper reporter Jack McGee, who witnessed and captured the fight on cell phone video, names the transformed Banner “the Hulk” in an interview with WHIH news. His remarks will be played repeatedly over the next several days. (IH 1:04:42, IM2 1:53:10)

Meanwhile, Stark has a debrief with SHIELD Director Fury. Stark is offered an advisory position with the Avengers Initiative.

SHIELD continues to monitor the Hulk incident, the situation that Agent Coulson is investigating in New Mexico as well as several other hot spots in Europe, Africa (Wakanda?) and the Atlantic Ocean.

May 22 – Banner and Betty hide out in a small town motel, as news of the previous day’s battle continues to spread. Within 36 to 40 hours of his injuries, Blonski has recovered. (IH 1:07:30)

May 23-25 – Ross has meeting with taskforce staff. (IH 1:08:51, Ross states that Banner has been on the run “for five years” but I’m assuming that Ross is rounding up.)

SHIELD helps with search by adding the recently discovered “Mr. Blue” and “Mr. Green” code names to their email searches and quickly detect communication between Banner and Sterns.

Banner continues to rest and recoup. He and Betty plan their trip to New York and Sterns. Betty pawns her mother’s necklace to finance purchase of beat-up pickup truck. They drive to NYC.

May 26 – A Wednesday. Banner and Betty arrive in NYC, bypassing roadblocks at the Holland Tunnel by bribing a boat owner to take them across the Hudson River, leaving them in lower Manhattan. They head uptown to meet with Sterns.

Sterns and Banner try an experimental process to cure him, though it only succeeds in reversing the transformation, not ridding Banner of it completely.  Supposition – Does this give Banner more of a control over Hulk? (This is based on the fact that this is the first time that Hulk speaks and the more disciplined way he fights. Also, Banner’s seeming control of transformation on July 8.)

The military captures Banner, but Blonsky forces Sterns to inject him with blood products Sterns had developed from Banner’s blood sample. Blonsky is driven insane and mutates into the Abomination. Sterns is infected with Banner’s blood through an open wound, possibly gaining his own mutation.

Banner convinces Ross to let him try and stop Blonsky. The two fight in Harlem, with the Hulk finally defeating Blonski before being allowed by Ross to flee.

Following the NYC Hulk incident, Tony Stark arrives in NYC with a quickly designed containment system to hold Blonski (IHN) and approaches Ross about “putting a team together.”

May 28 – Impressed with his work on Einstein-Rosen bridges and other cutting edge theoretical physics, Nick Fury approaches Dr. Selvig to join SHIELD in an advisory capacity to study a powerful cube-like object in their possession. Fury is unaware that Selvig is under the control of Loki. (This is a rather arbitrary date. I’m allowing a few days for Fury to hear about Selvig’s work with Jane Foster and for him to be verted for a security clearance.)

July 8 – Banner has settled in a cabin deep in the woods of Bella Coola, British Columbia. He apparently is gaining control over the Hulk.

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Key:

CP – CAPTAIN AMERICA Promotional

IM – IRON MAN movie
IMD – IRON MAN deleted scene
IMN – IRON MAN novelization by Peter David
IMC1 – IRON MAN comic adaptation issue 1
IMC2 – IRON MAN comic adaptation issue 2

IM2 – IRON MAN 2 movie
IM2N – IRON MAN 2 novelization
IM2P- promotional/viral
IM2F- IRON MAN 2 filmmaker comment

IH- INCREDIBLE HULK movie
IHD – INCREDIBLE HULK deleted/extended scene
IHN – INCREDIBLE HULK novelization by Peter David

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It would be cool if this edit could make these "cannon" as well:

A few perceptive observers noticed during the theatrical run of "Iron Man" that in the scene where Pepper Potts (Gwyneth Paltrow) walks in on Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) as his armor is being removed, there was something on the workbench behind him. Circular, with red and white stripes and a half-completed star in the center, it was speculated that this was Captain America's iconic shield. Iron Man In a Q&A session in Santa Monica last month, director Jon Favreau confirmed that it is indeed Cap's shield. He said a visual effects artist at Industrial Light & Magic Iron Manhad placed it there just as a joke. But Favreau loved the little "Easter egg" and decided it should stay.

Captain America himself made a cameo in "The Incredible Hulk," but don't feel bad if you didn't see it. While director Louis Letterier had hinted in interviews that they had shot an appearance, the scene ended up on the cutting room floor. But now it can finally be seen in the bonus features on the DVD, as first spotted by FilmSchoolRejects.com.

Screen Capture from 'The Incredible Hulk'

In the original opening scene of the movie, Bruce Banner (Edward Norton) travels to the Arctic, away from civilization, to try to end his own life and rid the world of the Hulk. Incredible HulkThere, buried in the ice, is the frozen body of Captain America. It's a little difficult to make out the figure, but again he can be identified by his shield.

The character is scheduled to get his own film, called "The First Avenger: Captain America," in May of 2011. Then he's expected to join Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and other Marvel heroes in the group "Avengers" movie that July. The speculation is that the first movie will be his origin story, set during World War II like the initial comics. Then he will be frozen and brought back in modern times to join the team, just like he did in the books. Jon Favreau has stated he'd like to direct "The Avengers," but first he's focusing on "Iron Man 2," hitting screens in May 2010.

from http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/captainamerica_blog.html

Didn't Tony also use the shield to fix something in Iron Man 2?

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marioxb said:


Didn't Tony also use the shield to fix something in Iron Man 2?
He used it to level out a device he was building.

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Any updates now that Captain America is out? I haven't seen it yet myself.

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I plan on going to see Captain America tomorrow night.  There hasn't been a lot going on, lately.  My wife is expecting our first child.  So, things have been pretty busy.  I have started on trying to incorporate deleted scenes into Iron Man in my spare time.  It took a little while to get to that point, though.  I'm using Blu Ray as my source, and I have never really tried to rip Blu Ray before.  I don't know how much of the Iron Man deleted scenes are going to be usable.  The extended attack on his Hummer at the beginning of the movie needs a sound effect overhaul.  His party in Dubai has green screens in the background and incomplete VFX.  Plus, I like Pepper finding out when he tells her that she has caught him doing worse things.  Hopefully things will slow down in the next few weeks, and I can start working a little more on this thing.

On a side note, I don't have the swiftest upload speed on my Internet connection.  Small clips of progress aren't a big deal, but uploading an entire set like this would take ages.  I'm thinking, if anyone is interested, in using a pay it forward style system.  If someone wants to upload it, then great.

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How long are you planning on making this? I'm thinking like 2 hours or so, with just the "Avengers" related scenes from all the movies, crossovers (even ones from deleted scenes) such as every Samuel L. Jackson scene, and introductions to the characters. Then you can use scenes from the 1998 Sean Connery Avengers. Ha ha, just kidding.
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I plan on using all of the material, including the new Marvel shorts that are going to be included on the Thor and Captain America DVDs and Blu Rays.  The way I see it, without the full movie, it's hard to get a grasp on the development of the characters.  The biggest difficulty will be deciding on where to split the videos.

Iron Man - Tony being captured, which prompts him to build the first suit.  He uses it to beat his first baddies in the Middle East.  Then Obidiah steals the suit prompting a showdown in public and Tony's "I am Iron Man" reveal.

TIH - Hulk origin.  Banner being found and the realization that his blood can affect others.  Super Soldier serum (also used for Cap) is used to create Abomination with Banner's blood.  Banner voluntarily uses Hulk to defeat Abomination, which means he is starting to learn to control it.

Iron Man 2 - Biggest complaint coming from critics is that it was an Avengers promoter

Thor - Downfall of Loki, who is rumored to be the main villain in The Avengers.  Shield capturing Thor's hammer.  Thor retrieving the hammer to defeat Loki.

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Maybe I'll try to make my own "movie" version of this then. I kinda want something that I can watch with the whole family that can just kinda be Avengers Zero or whatnot.
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I love this idea, especially that you're including deleted scenes!

I might be addicted to calzones.

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So, Captain America is released on disc next week..
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Over at FE.org, someone said this: " Montage with footage from other movies of Terrence Howard + footage of a car accident and a plastic surgery, insert line from Batman Begins, "Does it come in black" and cut to Don Cheadle waking up to explain the difference." Any idea what movie(s) can be used to accomplish this? The only thing I can think of is Crash, since it has both actors, and a car crash. But I haven't seen the movie, so I don't know if it would work.
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I've seen that before and have considered it. The only thing, though is you are going to have another actor change in Bruce Banner when the Avengers comes out. I hate to "explain" one actor change and not the other. I almost think it might be better to keep it more as the elephant int the room. Everyone knows it, but no one talks about it. :-) That's not to say that I won't change my mind if a plausible solution comes along. 

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I thought about that one a bit too. Maybe the last scene of this "movie" could have Hulk turning back human, but he turns into Mark Ruffallo, looking in the mirror, confused. with a voice-over in his head saying something like, "due to the gamma radiation effects, Hulk no longer remembers what his human form looks like.."
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Know of any scenes with Ruffalo looking confused? I would give it a shot with the right material. Any SFX or green screen is out of the question, though. My PC simply can't handle it. 

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It's available on Netflix Instant. I'll give it a look. 

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Maybe the scene from Ang Lee's Hulk can be used where Hulk is falling into the lake and he has a vision of himself looking in the mirror where Hulk calls Bruce "Puny Human", but instead of Bana, it could be Ruffalo in the mirror?