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Team Negative1 - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - 35mm Theatrical Version (Released)

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Welcome to the official thread for the discussion of The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - 35mm Theatrical Version 1.0

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This is the collective project that is not officially part of OT, or Lucasfilm, 20th Century Fox, Disney, etc. but in the spirit of preservation, has been put together with the wish to relive the memory of the original 1980 Empire Strikes Back.

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We have made a lot of progress, but we have some more steps to take.

This is the place to keep on top on the when/where/how/who/and why of it.

A lot of information is  sprinkled through the original discussion thread about - 35mm my crazy proposal. we’ll take just the details and emphasize them here.

If you want to discuss technical stuff, post it here.

This is just to keep people informed on the status and updates.
 


 

What is it? - A conversion/preservation of the 35mm version of The Empire Strikes Back from:

  1. Kodak Print (6 reels)+1 Extra Reel 3

  2. Kodak Print 2(6 Reels)

  3. Fujicolor Print (6 Reels)


Who are we? - A group of individuals working on it, color restoration and technical advisory, support


Why? - Because we love the Star Wars Trilogy, and appreciate George Lucas.


When will it be out? - Its done when its done.


Where can we find out more? - Right here.
 

Technical details

Video - Our goal is to have a preserved version that will be released in a high definition 1080p anamorphic MKV that is full frame for people with projectors (25gigs), and bluray disc (25gigs), and a dual layer dvd (9gigs) as the final product. 
 

There might be several other downsamples in avi/mp4 later on.</span></span>

Audio - we will have the 35mm English theatrical mix.

 

Thanks from our entire team!

Team Negative1

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We will be revisiting all the previous data released here shortly.

Including previous frames, and video links.

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Will you keep the theatrical cropping or will you open it up a bit?

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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Videos:

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Here is a comparison of one of our newer Fujicolor ESB prints vs Original Kodak stock we had for the very first print.

 

Fujicolor is on the top, Kodak on the bottom.

 

This is a slowed down version of the actual footage, so you can see the difference. We'll post a realtime clip later.

 

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https://vimeo.com/79242755

 

 

 

Frames:

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Adywan cleanup:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Making-our-own-35mm-preservation-my-crazy-proposal/post/482264/#TopicPost482264

 

ESB color correction:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Making-our-own-35mm-preservation-my-crazy-proposal/post/585024/#TopicPost585024

 

 

Sample errors to fix:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Making-our-own-35mm-preservation-my-crazy-proposal/post/585063/#TopicPost585063

 

Frames, and the actual reels of Print 1:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Making-our-own-35mm-preservation-my-crazy-proposal/post/589392/#TopicPost589392

 

The Crawl:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-GOUT-crawl/post/568407/#TopicPost568407

 

ESB cropping:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Cropping-the-Original-Trilogy-35mm-vs-dvd-gout/post/566864/#TopicPost566864

 

ESB Burn marks reel 1

and 2:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Tantives-Orange-Items-Thread-other-unintended-objects/post/568723/#TopicPost568723

 

ESB Burn marks reel 3,

4 and 5:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Tantives-Orange-Items-Thread-other-unintended-objects/post/568725/#TopicPost568725

 

 

Sample color frames from:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/topic/9805/

 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/565953/#TopicPost565953

 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/566024/#TopicPost566024

 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/566575/#TopicPost566575

 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/566584/#TopicPost566584

 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/566585/#TopicPost566585

 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/566587/#TopicPost566587

 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/566588/#TopicPost566588

 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/567408/#TopicPost567408

 

Han and Leia:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/570490/#TopicPost570490

 

Various shots:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/589393/#TopicPost589393

 

 

35mm vs 70mm:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/589523/#TopicPost589523

 

Emporer hologram:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/590630/#TopicPost590630

 

Wampa:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/591416/#TopicPost591416

 

 

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Sample Shots:

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The Crawl taken from Print 1:

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Here's shots of the edits being done in ESB.
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Shots of the film and reels:

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damn it i'd love to get my hands on those reels of film- not that i have a projector - i'd just like to hold the thing in my hands!

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More Sample Shots:

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http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/5803/esbassemble1s.th.jpg

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2899/esbassemble2s.th.jpg

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3351/esbassemble3sd.th.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2305/esbassemble4s.th.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2690/esbassemble5sd.th.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5282/esbassemble6sd.th.jpg

 

 

 


 

 

 

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Whoa, looks great.

So, a new book came out and we learned so much, and it is called, “Anguilosaurus, Killer of the Living”.

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It looks like a fair bit of colour information is missing from Reel1 in those shots. Are these straight out of the scanner or have they been corrected?

 

Donations welcome: paypal.me/poit
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I notice that reel 1 has a noticeable green coloration on the right side. What's up with that?

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These shots so far are all really old, you two ;)

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More shots. If you follow the links, you will see when these were posted.

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More early images from Reel 3 Kodak 1:

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reel 3:

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A few more early images, some are softer looking than the final result:

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Shots of Darth Vader and the Emperor:

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http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8460/vaderemp0000.th.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8048/vaderemp0001.th.jpg

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9274/vaderemp0002.th.jpg

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3407/vaderemp0003.th.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8467/vaderemp0008.th.jpg

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http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/8121/vaderemp0039.th.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5841/vaderemp0054.th.jpg

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1699/vaderemp0071.th.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/958/vaderemp0104.th.jpg

 

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So how much longer before a release date?

looking for HDTV of the  Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.  Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

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Troyig88 said:

So how much longer before a release date?

No estimate just yet. We are evaluating each of the 3 prints.

We have completed color correction on 1. But we have to integrate the other 2.

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The Wampa puppet arm:

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http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3058/wampa0070.th.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5836/wampa0071.th.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9190/wampa0072.th.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/618/wampa0073.th.jpg

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/2791/wampa0090.th.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6305/wampa0091.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2217/wampa0092.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4185/wampa0093.th.jpg

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6114/wampa0094.th.jpg

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1589/wampa0095.th.jpg

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4095/wampa0096.th.jpg

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1364/wampa0097.th.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3809/wampa0098.th.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7672/wampa0099.th.jpg

 

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Here is our version compared with some 70mm scans, our version is on the right:

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http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2377/35mmcomp01.th.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2082/35mmcomp02.th.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1591/70mmcomp01.th.jpg

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